Why do conservatives want Paul Ryan to be vice president?

Aug 9, 2012 Full story: The Washington Post 970

The Wall Street Journal's editorial page joined the growing movement of influential conservatives uniting behind hero wonk Paul Ryan for vice president.

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#592 Aug 12, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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Makes sense. A lot more doctors will take the private insurance you've purchased with vouchers than they do medicare.
Look, there is nothing in this world that, at some point, cannot be improved upon. To believe otherwise is not only the height of conceit, but closed minded and unambitious.
I'm not against change, I'm against paying for entitlements for people who don't work and never have. I don't consider SS and medicare entitlements. But you're probably bored hearing me say that.
then your for Leninism, that is how Lenin viewed it, government does not provide for the non working members of Society.
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#594 Aug 13, 2012
It was going to be Paul Ryan or D'Aubuisson for VP pick, a lose-lose situation. Roberto D'Aubuisson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Major Roberto D'Aubuisson, Salvadoran politician. Roberto D'Aubuisson Arrieta (
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rider

Ishpeming, MI

#595 Aug 13, 2012
Roberto D'Aubuisson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Major Roberto D'Aubuisson, Salvadoran politician. Roberto D'Aubuisson Arrieta (
23 August 1944 - 20 February 1992) was a major in the Salvadoran Army and ...

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Roberto d'Aubuisson, 48, Far-Rightist in Salvador - New York Times
Feb 21, 1992 ... Roberto d'Aubuisson, a rightist leader and former national guard officer who was
widely believed to be a principal proponent of assassinations ...

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rider

Ishpeming, MI

#596 Aug 13, 2012
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#597 Aug 13, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>yeah but the point is notice how both parties are doing nothing other than making cuts to medicare. what does that tell you?? One, medicare is paying people 500 times more than they pay into it and so it's bankrupt, and number two, both parties know that and so both parties want to cut and cut it back. They can't agree to pass one bill and can't agree to stop the deficit spending, can't agree to stop borrowing money, but they are fighing over who cut Medicare more? The only the Dems and Repubs both want to do is to cut Medicare, which tells you that in just one generation being on it, they bankrupted it because it gives each person so much more money than they pay in. So now it's bankrupt.
Earth to fruit cake, Medicare is already bankrupt.....do you suggest we do as California and just keep driving over the cliff before we do something........liberals have proposed nothing.......they wait for republicans to propose and then set back and throw rocks at it. Liberals have no balls and no mas.

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#598 Aug 13, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>Pamela has her own sources. ;-)
So does Harry Reid.
goose

Wheaton, IL

#600 Aug 13, 2012
Jimbo: I think Reid gets his "sources" from Pelosi ... the voices in her head.
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#602 Aug 13, 2012
Do we want to continue down the path of trillion
dollar deficits,job-killing regulations,Or do we
want to choose a new path of conservative,commonsense
policies based upon the principles of freedom,growth,
and renewal?

The Obama Juggernaught,Fueled by Hollywood,Big Labor
Union Bosses,and the Washington Liberal Elite Clique
Plus all those pandered to "Special Interest Groups"
Will be asked to produce a Billion dollars to get
us on another four years of what we have endured?

They will use that money to flood the Airways,and
mailboxes,to in key battle ground states,with their
liberal rhetoric and attacks.With no record at all
to run on,The POTUS,will do anything,say anything to
distract and mislead the American people.

Together we will build a strong,tough,determined
Party of people ready to take on the failed,and
ruined Party of Obama,and the democrats this NOV
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#603 Aug 13, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
With no record at all
to run on,The POTUS,will do anything,say anything to
distract and mislead the American people.
Here's his record, it'll take you all day to finish reading it
http://obamaachievements.org/list

Romney is the one with no record other than being a one term governor in Massachusetts. Well, he did sign RomneyCare into law.

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#604 Aug 13, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Here's his record, it'll take you all day to finish reading it
http://obamaachievements.org/list
Romney is the one with no record other than being a one term governor in Massachusetts. Well, he did sign RomneyCare into law.
That list is always good for a few laugh. Its mostly composed of two things. Political payback to his liberals supporters and things that every President does( Striking a commemorative coins for Medal of Honor winners is a big thing, every president does similar things. And increasing funding for the Army corp of Engineers? Who was the last President who did not do that.
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#606 Aug 13, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Here's his record, it'll take you all day to finish reading it
http://obamaachievements.org/list
Romney is the one with no record other than being a one term governor in Massachusetts. Well, he did sign RomneyCare into law.
Funny..LOL..
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#607 Aug 13, 2012
Attention DNC.............
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#608 Aug 13, 2012
Attention DNC..........

Con me once,Shame on me,Con me twice Shame on you all!
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#609 Aug 13, 2012
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rider

Ishpeming, MI

#610 Aug 13, 2012
Carl Edward Vuono (born October 18, 1934) is a retired United States Army General who served as the Chief of Staff of the United States Army from 1987 to 1991.

[edit] Early life and careerHe was born on 18 October 1934 in Monongahela, Pennsylvania. He is of Italian and Finnish ancestry. He began his career as a field artillery officer after graduating from the United States Military Academy, in West Point, New York. After graduating with the class of 1957, he served three tours in Vietnam as an artillery battalion executive officer with the 1st Infantry Division in 1966-67; executive officer of Division Artillery, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) in 1970; and as commander, 1st Battalion, 77th Artillery in 1970-1971. Vuono rose through the ranks quickly, serving several times in the Army's Training and Doctrine Command, in which he eventually became its commander in 1986.

During his military career, he received many military awards and honors including the Army Distinguished Service Medal (with two oak leaf clusters), the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, the Navy Distinguished Service Medal, the Air Force Distinguished Service Medal, the Legion of Merit, and the Bronze Star (with Valor device and six oak leaf clusters). He retired from active service in 1991.

[edit] Post retirementAfter his retirement from the Army, Vuono joined Military Professional Resources Inc.(MPRI), a private military company, in 1993.[1]. Since 1999 he has served as the CEO of MPRI. L-3 Communications acquired MPRI in June 2000 at which point Vuono was offered a senior management position at L-3 Communications.[2]

In 2003, he was awarded the Distinguished Graduate Award by the West Point Association of Graduates.

He holds an Honorary Doctorate in Public Administration from Shippensburg University.
notlocal

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#612 Aug 13, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I wish they would eliminate Social Security just for simple fact its a failed ponzi scheme.
They can't. It's already paid for with the worker's and employer's money. And most seniors do depend on it. It would be stealing.

Whether they can revamp it for future retirees remains the question.

They CAN eliminate the payments for ALL children under age 18 with one deceased parent. That should be based on need. And they CAN eliminate payments to the parent age 65 or older for any child they have under age 18.

If it's underfunded now, they can save money in other areas. GSA conferences?

Seriously. At a crab place 10 minutes from my house steamed crabs are $80.00 per half bushel. In the parking lot you are approached by food stamp receipents, on a regualr basis, who offer to buy the crabs with their WIK cards and resell them to you for $50.00 per half bushel. So they net $30. cash for God knows what. It's depressing when you are living on a paycheck.

Why is a place that offers only very high price seafood approved to accept food stamps and WIK? Can we police that a little better? Create a few jobs and save billions?
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#613 Aug 13, 2012
Roger Edgar wrote:
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You must have been out of the Country for a few weeks. No one has ever sunk as low as Reid and Obama. No one would ever heap so much disgrace to the American families as the Obama ads have done to millions of decent, fairminded American Demcorats.
Will principled Democrats demand that another choice at the DNC Convention or will they simply suffer in silence and wait to vote for Romney in November?
?? Nope, I have never left the country. When I hear about dems producing disgraceful ads, I only hear about them from the far far right. I never hear the ads themselves. So, essentially, unless you provide a link to what ads you are talking about, I won't have ever seen them.

On the other hand I favor a return to making libel illegal. If an ad says something false, then that person can be sued for damages. If the ad results in a biasing of an election the winner because of that damage must forfeit the office immediately, or never take office. Perhaps this would clean up elections; but I have never found a republican willing to go along. What about you?
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#614 Aug 13, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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Ryan's Medicare plan changes nothing for anyone age 55 or older. In 2022 a program kicks in that gives seniors vouchers for purchasing their
own private health insurance. Which will most likely be better than medicare.
...
A lack of consistency. First it changes nothing, then it gives vouchers. If it doesn't change, then it can't give vouchers because that is a change

Once vouchers are in place, Medicare can easily be removed because there an alternate method, and no point in having two methods. Then value of the voucher can be reduced to next to nothing to save money for the rich.

Now you tell me what good is a 50 cent voucher on your next heart attack? You get 35 cents off the next $100,000 spent on health care.

And you are really going to claim it doesn't hurt those over 55? What fantasy is this?

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#615 Aug 13, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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They can't. It's already paid for with the worker's and employer's money. And most seniors do depend on it. It would be stealing.
Whether they can revamp it for future retirees remains the question.
They CAN eliminate the payments for ALL children under age 18 with one deceased parent. That should be based on need. And they CAN eliminate payments to the parent age 65 or older for any child they have under age 18.
If it's underfunded now, they can save money in other areas. GSA conferences?
Seriously. At a crab place 10 minutes from my house steamed crabs are $80.00 per half bushel. In the parking lot you are approached by food stamp receipents, on a regualr basis, who offer to buy the crabs with their WIK cards and resell them to you for $50.00 per half bushel. So they net $30. cash for God knows what. It's depressing when you are living on a paycheck.
Why is a place that offers only very high price seafood approved to accept food stamps and WIK? Can we police that a little better? Create a few jobs and save billions?
the Federal Government can eliminate Social Security or reduce it, the SCOTUS case of Flemming vs Nestor stated In 1960, the (SCOTUS) Supreme Court of the United States ruling in Flemming vs. Nestor stated that individual's do not have no legal rights to Social Security: Congress can cut or eliminate Social Security benefits at any time regardless of an individual's contributions.

The Court ruled that no such contract exists, and that there is no contractual right to receive Social Security payments. Payments due under Social Security are not “property” rights and are not protected by the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. The interest of a beneficiary of Social Security is protected only by the Due Process Clause.

I think after the election its coming since the Republicans were the ones that brought the 1960 Case of Flemming vs Nestor up, and want to end Leninism since Lenin believed that it was governments reponsibility to provide for the elderly.
notlocal

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#616 Aug 13, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
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A lack of consistency. First it changes nothing, then it gives vouchers. If it doesn't change, then it can't give vouchers because that is a change
Once vouchers are in place, Medicare can easily be removed because there an alternate method, and no point in having two methods. Then value of the voucher can be reduced to next to nothing to save money for the rich.
Now you tell me what good is a 50 cent voucher on your next heart attack? You get 35 cents off the next $100,000 spent on health care.
And you are really going to claim it doesn't hurt those over 55? What fantasy is this?
The vouchers are to be used to purchase private insurance. And according to Paul Ryan this morning, one of the plans that will be available to all Americans is the one that insures members of house, senate, congress and their staffers.

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