Romney Signs on to Anti-Gay Group's Campaign Pledge

Aug 5, 2011 Full story: EDGE 12,989

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has signed on to a campaign pledge created by the anti-gay National Organization for Marriage, a group that seeks to obstruct marriage equality and, in states where gay and lesbian families are legally allowed to wed, to roll family parity back.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13456 Jul 27, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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I named one reason, to raise your children. Gay couples can't have children, you need 1M1W. This is pretty basic stuff, why are you stumped?
LOL.
You don't have to be able to spawn in order to marry.
It's a non issue.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13457 Jul 27, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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Rose, you would need to read 1,000 more books to hold my book bag.
You think insults are arguments...good luck with getting rights that way..maybe that's why 31 states voted against you...
Those 31 states will have to conform to the 14th Amendment. It's just a matter of time.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#13459 Jul 27, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL.
You don't have to be able to spawn in order to marry.
It's a non issue.
There's an echo in here and it isn't getting any brighter.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#13460 Jul 28, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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You are asking the same idiot that insists HIV isn't spread by homosexuals, it's caused by a virus.
HIV is caused by a virus, dipshit.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#13461 Jul 28, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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How come you're so stupid?
How come you write stupid things you can't prove?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#13462 Jul 28, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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funny, my posts to YOU always get judged...
funny, when you're not posting there are no judge its...
its been months...
in short, you lie, and i know it.
Judge this!
Case dismissed for LACK OF EVIDENCE.

Aw..... the fake attorney forgot all his training.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#13463 Jul 28, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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Rose, you would need to read 1,000 more books to hold my book bag.
You think insults are arguments...good luck with getting rights that way..maybe that's why 31 states voted against you...
Obviously you never read LOGIC FOR 1ST GRADERS.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#13465 Jul 29, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Helloooooooooooooooo....
The last time you were convinced your girlfriend and her running mate were going to win the election. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. I know you can't help it because you are retarded.
Why would you write something as stupid as "anti-christian messiah" when referring to Obama? You bitched that he went to Rev Wright's church for 20 years, too. So which is it? What has Obama done that is anti-christian? And what would you know about being a "christian?" You lie, you defame, and you wrap yourself up in the flag and hide behind jesus. You're nothing but a two-bit hypocrite.
The hypocritse are those who claim to beliece in Gods word but vote Dem and plenty agree with me.

"Black Pastors Speak Out on Obama's Gay Marriage Stance"

The Rev. Emmett C. Burns Jr., a politically influential black minister, held an event Sunday at his Rising Sun Baptist Church in Baltimore, Md., to publicly withdraw support from Obama over his same-sex marriage support, CNN reported. "I love the president, but I cannot support what he has done," Burns was quoted as saying at the church. He also predicted that Obama's stance would lead to his defeat in November.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/black-pasto...

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#13466 Jul 29, 2012
Brandi8 wrote:
Sadly, research have shown gays are sexual predators including the sexual abuse of babies.
Thank you for this information and it is terrifying but worse is not knowing it.

“True Love Sees No Color”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#13467 Jul 29, 2012
There are more and more medical research about the increase of identity issues within the gay community. If being homosexual was normal, gays wouldn't be battling with their sexual identity because gays don't know if they want to be a boy or girl.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#13468 Jul 29, 2012
Brandi8 wrote:
There are more and more medical research about the increase of identity issues within the gay community. If being homosexual was normal, gays wouldn't be battling with their sexual identity because gays don't know if they want to be a boy or girl.
hahahahahaha
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Gays don't know if they want to be a boy or a girl? ahahahahahahah
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ahahahahahha

I'm SO sure you have tons of "medical research" to back that bullshit up.

“True Love Sees No Color”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#13473 Jul 29, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The evidence supporting the "born that way" claim of Isay and other gay activists is tenuous. It has been uncritically accepted and hyped by the media and some less-than-careful researchers. But it hasn't been replicated by others and is riddled with technical problems.
On the other side is a body of scientific evidence that suggests that homosexuality is adopted by people who are confused, sexually adventurous and/or rebellious. This evidence suggests that sexual orientation is flexible, not immutable. And the evidence comes from the largest studies on the subject, conducted by researchers on both sides of the gay rights debate.
Sexual Preference Shifts
That sexual desire and behavior are flexible was demonstrated by the Kinsey Institute in 1970. It reported(9) that 81% of 684 gays and 93% of 293 lesbians had changed or shifted either their sexual feelings or behaviors after age 12.58% of the gays and 77% of the lesbians reported a second shift in sexual orientation; 31% of the gays and 49% of the lesbians reported a third shift; and 13% of the gays and 30% of the lesbians reported even a fourth shift in sexual orientation before "settling" into adult homosexuality. The shifts reported by these subjects varied in degree, but some were quite dramatic - about a quarter of gays and a third of lesbians once had heterosexual desires and 5% of heterosexual men and 3% of heterosexual women once had substantial homosexual desires. Heterosexuals in the study were much less likely to report shifts in their orientation. Even so, 29% of 337 heterosexual men and 14% of 140 heterosexual women reported at least one shift; while 4% of the men and 1% of the women reported at least three shifts. Immutable things like eye color or skin color don't change once, much less three or four times!
Unlike biological changes, the shifts in sexual orientation began at age 18 or later for half of both gays and lesbians. Sexual changes, five or more years after puberty, are exceptionally late and without biological precedent in development. But changes in tastes (e.g., food or entertainment) often take place around age 18.
Other Evidence
The same Kinsey study also produced other evidence that can not be explained in terms of biological determinism, but would readily support the idea that choice is involved in sexual orientation and behavior:
* 74% of their gays admitted to having been sexually aroused by a female and 80% of lesbians said that they had been sexually aroused by a male;
* 19% of their gays and 38% of lesbians had been heterosexually married;
* 20% of gays, 5% of heterosexual men, 7% of lesbians and no heterosexual women had had sex with animals.
Consistent with these results, the Family Research Institute (FRI) 10 conducted a nationwide random survey of 4,340 adults drawn from 5 U.S. cities in 1983 and found:
* 82% of those currently lesbian and 66% of those currently gay said that they had been in love with someone of the opposite sex;
* 88% of lesbians and 73% of gays had been sexually aroused by someone of the opposite sex;
* 67% of lesbians and 54% of gays reported current sexual attraction to the opposite sex;
* 85% of lesbians and 54% of gays, as adults, had sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex;
* 32% of gays and 47% of lesbians had been heterosexually married; and
* 17% of gays, 3% of heterosexual men, 10% of lesbians and 1% of heterosexual women reported sex with animals.
These are the kinds of sexual choices one would expect from the sexually adventurous or confused. Unless Dr. Isay and his supporters are willing to believe that people are "born" to fall in love, get married or to have sex with animals, some measure of choice, rather than biological inevitability, must have been involved.
Awesome information and this explains very well the sexual identity in homosexuals.
Cool Hand Luke

Scranton, PA

#13474 Jul 29, 2012
Thank You! Post the truth about these people in as many places as possible.
Brandi8 wrote:
<quoted text>Awesome information and this explains very well the sexual identity in homosexuals.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13475 Jul 29, 2012
Brandi8 wrote:
There are more and more medical research about the increase of identity issues within the gay community. If being homosexual was normal, gays wouldn't be battling with their sexual identity because gays don't know if they want to be a boy or girl.
You really should learn SOMETHING about a subject before you make a post.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13476 Jul 29, 2012
Brandi8, when you use a sock puppet like "Cool Hand Luke", don't make it such a suck up, it's too obvious.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13477 Jul 29, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The evidence supporting the "born that way" claim of Isay and other gay activists is tenuous. It has been uncritically accepted and hyped by the media and some less-than-careful researchers. But it hasn't been replicated by others and is riddled with technical problems.
On the other side is a body of scientific evidence that suggests that homosexuality is adopted by people who are confused, sexually adventurous and/or rebellious. This evidence suggests that sexual orientation is flexible, not immutable.
Show us then, choose to be gay.
:::crickets chirping:::
Cool Hand Luke wrote:

The same Kinsey study also produced other evidence that can not be explained in terms of biological determinism, but would readily support the idea that choice is involved in sexual orientation and behavior:
* 74% of their gays admitted to having been sexually aroused by a female and 80% of lesbians said that they had been sexually aroused by a male;
vs. what percentage of straights who have been aroused by a member of the same sex?
:::crickets chirping:::
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
* 19% of their gays and 38% of lesbians had been heterosexually married;
That's a good argument for allowing gay marriage.
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
* 20% of gays, 5% of heterosexual men, 7% of lesbians and no heterosexual women had had sex with animals.
LOL. Guess there are a lot of straight women who lie!
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Consistent with these results, the Family Research Institute (FRI) 10 conducted a nationwide random survey of 4,340 adults drawn from 5 U.S. cities in 1983 and found:
The FRI is a fundie hate group.
Stats dismissed.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#13479 Jul 29, 2012
Anyone hear of the Chick-fil-A boycott? How is thousands more unemployed food service workers going to further your political goals? Prove you're tough?

This is reason 18, for keeping marriage male/female. Same sex supporters don't use civil discourse, they use boycotts.

Reason 19 is bullying. SSM supporters have trouble understanding actions have consequences(reason 17).

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#13480 Jul 29, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Anyone hear of the Chick-fil-A boycott? How is thousands more unemployed food service workers going to further your political goals? Prove you're tough?
No, stupid, it's a protest against someone using their profits to work against equal rights for all US citizens.
Brian_G wrote:
This is reason 18, for keeping marriage male/female. Same sex supporters don't use civil discourse, they use boycotts.
That makes no sense, boycotts ARE civil discourse. It's not like anybody is advocating vandalism, or violence against people eating there.
Brian_G wrote:
Reason 19 is bullying. SSM supporters have trouble understanding actions have consequences(reason 17).
So, explain to us how gay marriage would lead to more prison rape...
Samatha

Carrollton, TX

#13481 Jul 29, 2012
They have a right to their beliefs also!

Anyway it goes people are getting wise to the Gays, Chick-Fil-A is receiving phenomenal support, Gays tried to attack The Salvation Army last Christmas and donations were up considerably, Gays have tried to attack The Boy Scouts and support for the Scouts is off the charts! People are sick of the Gay Bullying!
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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No, stupid, it's a protest against someone using their profits to work against equal rights for all US citizens.
<quoted text>
That makes no sense, boycotts ARE civil discourse. It's not like anybody is advocating vandalism, or violence against people eating there.
<quoted text>
So, explain to us how gay marriage would lead to more prison rape...

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#13482 Jul 29, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
No, stupid, it's a protest against someone using their profits to work against equal rights for all US citizens.
Not just the CEO, Dan Cathy, you are protesting against every employee and vendor at Chick-fil-A. You'd put thousands of people out of work if you win.

You say 'profits' as if that's something evil. The boycott is against everyone's wages, who works for Chick-fil-A. Think it through, take a minute and consider what your doing.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
That makes no sense, boycotts ARE civil discourse.
No, they are a type of warfare, restricting your opponents access to vital resources. They are more like extortion or blackmail than civil discourse.

Civil discourse is engagement in discourse (conversation) intended to enhance understanding. Kenneth J. Gergen describes civil discourse as "the language of dispassionate objectivity", and suggests that it requires respect of the other participants, such as the reader. It neither diminishes the other's moral worth, nor questions their good judgment; it avoids hostility, direct antagonism, or excessive persuasion; it requires modesty and an appreciation for the other participant's experiences. In Book III of An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690), John Locke contrasts between civil and philosophical discourse (or rhetorical discourse) with the former being for the benefit of the reader, and the public good:

First, By, their civil use, I mean such a communication of thoughts and ideas by words, as may serve for the upholding common conversation and commerce, about the ordinary affairs and conveniences of civil life, in the societies of men, one amongst another.

Secondly, By the philosophical use of words, I mean such a use of them as may serve to convey the precise notions of things, and to express in general propositions certain and undoubted truths, which the mind may rest upon and be satisfied with in its search after true knowledge. These two uses are very distinct; and a great deal less exactness will serve in the one than in the other, as we shall see in what follows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_discourse

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
It's not like anybody is advocating vandalism, or violence against people eating there.
Is that stage two?

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
So, explain to us how gay marriage would lead to more prison rape...
If law was changed to make government gender blind, to create unisex marriage, this will cause new social norms. Gender segregated populations in close confinement suffer from restrictions on personal freedom, including loss of consent. Prison rape would be called a "honeymoon" if same sex marriage is legal.

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