Drug testing for food stamps?

Jan 13, 2011 Full story: www.wkyt.com 1,175

Drug testing for food stamps? Font Size: Will Kentuckians soon have to take a drug test before they receive public assistance? One lawmaker introduced a bill to make that a reality.

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Since: Mar 09

London, KY

#1 Jan 13, 2011
"Napier says that is the inspiration behind his bill, requiring those looking for assistance of all kinds of assistance of all kinds to first take a drug test."

Applying for Federal Student Loans, home loans, using a road paid for by federal funds....where does it stop?

He also wants those in need of help to pay for the tests!

Since: Oct 10

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#2 Jan 13, 2011
Meth addicts don't usually eat much so they should let them slide.

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#3 Jan 13, 2011
River Tam wrote:
Meth addicts don't usually eat much so they should let them slide.
Funny, but your right most have no teeth to eat with.

“Rainy Night N Georgia”

Since: Oct 10

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#4 Jan 13, 2011
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
"Napier says that is the inspiration behind his bill, requiring those looking for assistance of all kinds of assistance of all kinds to first take a drug test."
Applying for Federal Student Loans, home loans, using a road paid for by federal funds....where does it stop?
He also wants those in need of help to pay for the tests!
HE IS CRAZY.what drugs would count?most are precribed by docs.the only ones this would hurt is people in their 80s and 90s like my mom who would just let hers drop before she could afford to hire someone to drive her for the tests.by the time she paid for that ,it wouldn't be worth it.from some idiots on here tho i feel a lot would be for it.tickles me to death.i never have got them,but they are the ones who will be hurt in the end because once it starts there it won't end til like you said[anyone who uses the library,public roads,lakes anything at all will have to take them.like so many laws they only think they'd like it.what if they wreck today and have to have pain meds.that would mean they'd lose all of their rights.might better think it over.

Since: Oct 09

London

#5 Jan 13, 2011
and just about every job you get now days, there is mandatory drug screening

if you are worried about where it will end, maybe it will save untold millions in assistance checks going to the dealers in illegal drugs!?!

I, and many I know, would like to see it pass

Since: Sep 10

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#6 Jan 13, 2011
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
"Napier says that is the inspiration behind his bill, requiring those looking for assistance of all kinds of assistance of all kinds to first take a drug test."
Applying for Federal Student Loans, home loans, using a road paid for by federal funds....where does it stop?
He also wants those in need of help to pay for the tests!
If drug testing for assistance had be Michelle Obama's idea you would have been advocating that as well as her dictating what the schools can serve children for lunch.

Since: Mar 09

London, KY

#7 Jan 13, 2011
twowolf wrote:
and just about every job you get now days, there is mandatory drug screening
if you are worried about where it will end, maybe it will save untold millions in assistance checks going to the dealers in illegal drugs!?!
I, and many I know, would like to see it pass
I see your point and I do think that anyone convicted of a drug offense should be banned from public assistance but I can't see handing the gov. the right to test anyone that applies or any assistance.
reality_review wrote:
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If drug testing for assistance had be Michelle Obama's idea you would have been advocating that as well as her dictating what the schools can serve children for lunch.
Up to the old switch tactic I see! Maybe we won't have to worry about it. Maybe their parents will fail the drug test and they won't get any lunch at all!

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#8 Jan 13, 2011
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
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I see your point and I do think that anyone convicted of a drug offense should be banned from public assistance but I can't see handing the gov. the right to test anyone that applies or any assistance.
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Up to the old switch tactic I see! Maybe we won't have to worry about it. Maybe their parents will fail the drug test and they won't get any lunch at all!
If that is the case then maybe they shouldn't have any kids.
GOP

London, KY

#9 Jan 13, 2011
punish the kids for something there parents done....that must be the republican way.

Since: Sep 10

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#10 Jan 13, 2011
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
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I see your point and I do think that anyone convicted of a drug offense should be banned from public assistance but I can't see handing the gov. the right to test anyone that applies or any assistance.
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Up to the old switch tactic I see! Maybe we won't have to worry about it. Maybe their parents will fail the drug test and they won't get any lunch at all!
Maybe if you give up your habits you can pass the test.

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#11 Jan 13, 2011
GOP wrote:
punish the kids for something there parents done....that must be the republican way.
I have to summit to random drug testing at work.So why shouldn't some one who is receving money that the goverment took out of my pay check do the same.The goverment takes it out of my pocket, money I could use for my family, then the goverment gives it to people that don't work.So I think it is only fare they have to be tested just like I do.
Mr Hardlene

London, KY

#12 Jan 13, 2011
twowolf wrote:
and just about every job you get now days, there is mandatory drug screening
if you are worried about where it will end, maybe it will save untold millions in assistance checks going to the dealers in illegal drugs!?!
I, and many I know, would like to see it pass
i agree...if it passes, they will know whats coming....and have time to get themselves straight....maybe with a 3 stike rule...which would envolve social services to monitor children in the home...if they don't follow the rules...let the state take the kids and let em fend for themselves....of course, for a few months we'll have to wear side irons and stay home to protect our stuff...but it's almost that way now.......

Since: Mar 09

London, KY

#13 Jan 13, 2011
Wow, I read more about this and Arizona seems to be leading the push:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

"Katz also calls the bill "blatantly unconstitutional." A federal appellate court threw out Michigan's random drug testing law in 2003, saying it violated the constitutional ban against unreasonable search and seizure.

"Just because you're seeking public benefits doesn't mean you don't have the same kind of protection from unreasonable searches as anybody else," says Schott.

Such constitutional concerns helped shape a new law in Arizona. Welfare recipients are now asked three questions about drug use. If they answer "yes" to any, they are sent to drug testing. If they test positive, they lose benefits for a year.

Asking everyone without exception gets around some of the legal questions involved in random testing. But Schott argues it's still intrusive. Any program savings, she says, will come from people who refuse to answer such questions preserving their constitutional rights, she says, but disqualifying themselves from receiving benefits.

Arizona believes it will save $1.7 million a year from people dropped from welfare in this way. "This isn't a benevolent statute where we want to provide services," says Ellen Katz, director of the William E. Morris Institute for Justice in Phoenix. "The whole purpose of this statute was to terminate people from the program."

Arizona's Legislature has since considered bills that would bar welfare recipients from subscribing to cable television, owning cell phones or smoking cigarettes. None of those proposals has advanced very far."
Mee

Ashland, KY

#14 Jan 13, 2011
GOP wrote:
punish the kids for something there parents done....that must be the republican way.
The poor kids are being punished already for being born to low life parents. Do you really believe that the assistance they recieve benefits the children. I wish that the government wold stop these parents form having children that they wont take care of. My suggestion would be to put a limit on the children that they can have.Make them get fixed after they have 2 children. It makes me sick to see men and women who have 5 kids by 5 different people.Then the government has to support them. We all know this well never happen.The government will keep giving and all the low lifes will keep taking!

Since: Sep 10

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#15 Jan 13, 2011
Now Arizona's already got 3 strikes against them. They want to enforce the laws, protect their citizens and stop giving subsidies to druggies.
I guess Obama will throw them out of the Union now.
Makes sense

Ashland, KY

#16 Jan 14, 2011
GOP wrote:
punish the kids for something there parents done....that must be the republican way.
Fool
Big Blue Fan

Nicholasville, KY

#17 Jan 14, 2011
Heres a proposal ....randomly audit recipients of food stamps ...make them save receipts for their grocery purchases ....just like people prescribed certain medications have to submit to a random or even monthly "count " of their medication to ensure they are not selling their pills.....People would think TWICE before trading their food stamps for cash or drugs. I know for a fact this happens and .Yes I have reported it,,I am all for "helping out" ANY one in need until they get back on track but the ABUSE has to STOP ...Part of the reason for going to the e.b.t card was to stop abuse and transfer to people illegally ,,,however now people simply "loan" their card to others now.So I also propose a POSITIVE Identification before groceries can be purchased with a EBT card....I know you will have people whining that its an infringement on their rights etc. etc.,,,,A honest individual in need will have NO problem with these proposals
jbs980002

Nashville, TN

#18 Jan 14, 2011
I don't see a problem with drug testing people who collect aid. If it causes people to clean up then they might realize that they can find jobs and improve their lives. That alone is a win win. The biggest problem I hear is about the costs of drug testing. Its estimated to cost $30 a person. Times that by all the people who collect foodstamps or cash aid it would be expensive for the state but might end up saving more by kicking off those who abuse. The other option could be to charge those who fail their test plus suspend them from the program. For those who truly are needy they shouldn't have any problems with drug testing. Btw they have drug test that detect the drugs in prescription medications and they have test that can show if the concentraion is more than the prescription is prescribed for and as poster stated above its like any failed drug test for employment. You fail you're out.

Since: Jan 08

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#19 Jan 14, 2011
Testing would change the system. It has the potential to change people's lives too. Could help get people off of welfare or drugs too. Just like people on parole. Guidelines same as drug courts need used in my opinion. No drugs found in their system then they can stay in the system. Drugs found then get them the help they need. They'd have to be rehabilitated before they could get their welfare back. If they should even be allowed. Court ordered KIDS from 6th grade on have to be random drug tested in our schools. WHY shouldn't people getting assistance? Especially with statistics the way they are. Claiming that 85% use assistance for other things or don't genuinly need it. Some don't deserve it while others that do can't get it or do without. There are enough people on drugs drawing checks & getting assistance for this to be addressed. It will change everything!! It will start with the drug testing then will cause a chain reaction of changes. It should have been put into affect years ago. Then it wouldn't be the way it it today!!! So they need to hurry up!

“Somewhere in Time”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#20 Jan 14, 2011
Obama is King, Obama is Lord, All hail King Obama!

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