Expert: We must act fast on warming

Expert: We must act fast on warming

There are 28112 comments on the Kansas.com story from Sep 24, 2008, titled Expert: We must act fast on warming. In it, Kansas.com reports that:

Droughts, melting ice caps and glaciers, rising sea levels and mass extinctions will all be a reality unless the U.S. and the world cut back on carbon emissions dramatically, said James Hansen, director of ...

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“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#25750 Aug 11, 2012
kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh my 'tina', california, has opted themselves out of the ability to live like the rest of the united states. california, always being the first to make laws against laws on just about anything`has now painted themselves into the corner once again. this time however, all of their feel good, warm fuzzy feeling crap is, when they need it most, guess what?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/09/wind-po...
Not even surprised. Add to that the fact that more of California's power comes from out of state and you had a ready made energy crisis.

Now they have an energy and an economic crisis.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#25751 Aug 11, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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And of course they believe that catalytic converters were communist inspired.
Why, enviromentalist or capitalist would make sense. The enviromentalist because it would have the dual effect of cleaning up the air and making cars more expensive and capitalist because they could make tons of cash off them.

Of course thinking things out has never been your strong area.
PHD

Houston, TX

#25752 Aug 11, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Why, enviromentalist or capitalist would make sense. The enviromentalist because it would have the dual effect of cleaning up the air and making cars more expensive and capitalist because they could make tons of cash off them.
Of course thinking things out has never been your strong area.
Thinking maY not be a strong area for some. You couldn't think your LESS THAN A BOX OF ROCKS.
kal

West Richland, WA

#25753 Aug 11, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Not even surprised. Add to that the fact that more of California's power comes from out of state and you had a ready made energy crisis.
Now they have an energy and an economic crisis.
oh my 'tina', they need to have their power lines cut off, all of their power needs to come from their harebrained ideas. only then can they say solar or wind is better. do you know whose coaled fired powered powerplants run california?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#25754 Aug 12, 2012
kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh my 'tina', they need to have their power lines cut off, all of their power needs to come from their harebrained ideas. only then can they say solar or wind is better. do you know whose coaled fired powered powerplants run california?
Pitiful.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#25755 Aug 12, 2012
kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh my 'tina', they need to have their power lines cut off, all of their power needs to come from their harebrained ideas. only then can they say solar or wind is better. do you know whose coaled fired powered powerplants run california?
Actually ENRON did just that and they had brownouts and blackouts. As for California sources of power. They receive it from several states and even Mexico and Canada. Just cutting off all coal produced electricity would be enough to place Califronia in the dark. Not to mention the higher cost of solar and wind would push many californian business out of the state or out of business.
PHD

Houston, TX

#25756 Aug 12, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Actually ENRON did just that and they had brownouts and blackouts. As for California sources of power. They receive it from several states and even Mexico and Canada. Just cutting off all coal produced electricity would be enough to place Califronia in the dark. Not to mention the higher cost of solar and wind would push many californian business out of the state or out of business.
Well now if coal was cut off than 60% of America would go in the dark. Again you don't have a clue. Do you live in this Great Country of ours or you on loan here? Well I think that your as many say a Less than a Box of rocks. Do post what one child lrft behind program you attended maybe we could get you a refund.

Since: Aug 12

Savannah, TN

#25757 Aug 12, 2012
The planet is in no trouble. But give them money so they shut up about it.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#25758 Aug 12, 2012
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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"This won't be an even and predictable event."
Wow, you just made a valid argument AGAINST the GW theory. If it's not predictable, how the heck did it become a theory?
You Zeplin is going down in a blaze of glory, all brain cells lost.
A good article in the WSJ. It is time to take global warming seriously. We need to take reasonable steps to approach the problem.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#25759 Aug 12, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Actually ENRON did just that ..
Enron shut down power plants for 'maintenance' to 'game' the 'spot market'. It worked exactly like the greed and power model of the fossil fool mega-corporations but not quite as subtle.
tina anne wrote:
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and they had brownouts and blackouts.
Exactly as you would expect if you put private greed in control. The only ones that didn't have blackouts and brownouts (to up the price of power) were cities that held on to their public utility generation capacity.
litesong

Monroe, WA

#25760 Aug 12, 2012
kal wrote:
james hansen...... spearheaded the new ice age scare of the 70's.
After you go thru enough scientists, you might find the right one. However, your topix AGW denier ganghood has made errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 3 million TIMES, 500 million TIMES, 4.13 billion TIMES, & even a thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand TIMES. So, you might NOT guess.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#25762 Aug 13, 2012
DumBozo wrote:
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I've never been to Wyoming, why would you think I live there?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#25763 Aug 13, 2012
litesout wrote:
After you go thru enough scientists, you might find the right one. However, your topix AGW denier ganghood has made errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 3 million TIMES, 500 million TIMES, 4.13 billion TIMES, & even a thousand thousand thousand thousand thousand TIMES. So, you might NOT guess.
Hmmm, is that an example of the 'higher level' maths you keep rambling on about?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#25764 Aug 13, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I've never been to Wyoming, why would you think I live there?
Ok, I'll bite. What does Wyoming have to do with what I posted? Or is this just another senior moment?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#25765 Aug 13, 2012
Recluse WY.
Population 2000: 149 (2000 Zip Code Based Est.)
SoE

Rozet, WY

#25766 Aug 13, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Of course thinking things out has never been your strong area.
Kinda reminds me of your spent fuel rod scheme...!
If you have anything resembling the above you wish to implement
with respect to AGW please wait until travel to mars is commonplace.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#25767 Aug 13, 2012
steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling wrote:
Hmmm, is that an example of the 'higher level' maths you keep rambling on about?
You're just asking, because your mathematics 'answers' haven't been the greatest stumble butt topix AGW denier errors. HOWEVER, your dense error of 500 million TIMES does not distance you from the greatest stumble butt AGW deniers holding the record errors.

Of course, your continuing & proud slimy steening filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigisms make you only the next tier up from those topix AGW deniers who are alleged &/or proud threateners.

However, since you don't have any background in science & mathematics & no hi skule deegreee, you have no authority to demand answers.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#25768 Aug 14, 2012
litesout wrote:
hi skule deegreee
"A high school diploma is a diploma awarded for the completion of high school. In the United States and Canada, it is considered the minimum education required for government jobs and higher education. An equivalent is the GED."

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#25769 Aug 14, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
Recluse WY.
Population 2000: 149 (2000 Zip Code Based Est.)
Very good! Of course Paradise is found in Kansas! Or perhaps you would be interested in Climax, TX. In Oklahoma, it is well known that if you leave ADA, you must go through Bowlegs to get to Maud.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#25770 Aug 14, 2012
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Enron shut down power plants for 'maintenance' to 'game' the 'spot market'. It worked exactly like the greed and power model of the fossil fool mega-corporations but not quite as subtle.
<quoted text>
Exactly as you would expect if you put private greed in control. The only ones that didn't have blackouts and brownouts (to up the price of power) were cities that held on to their public utility generation capacity.
It also proved that California's energy policy was not working. That the state was dependant on electrical sources that were outside of the control of PGE.

If the government of California had not created the situation in the rush to green power with regulations then ENRON would of not been able to play that game the spot market. And notice the cities who were not affected were those who had a fossil fuel powered soruce of electricity. Those who relied on wind and solar had the problems.

Yes ENRON, taught the world some lessons that those in sunny California failed to learn. And now others have the fingers on Califronia's electrical juggler, Some of which reside in Mexico and Canada. Outside of the reach of US laws.

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