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grandma

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This is an epidemic, not only in Illinois but nationwide. why won't our goverment step in and investigate the abuse by DCFS
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This agency is very powerful.I bet people don't know they can alt into your home anytime they"have reason to believe" there is a problem.They can go through juv.court where they ALWAYS get what they want.In juv. court noone needs to be charged with a crime they are {ajudecatedGUILTY}because DCFS says they are.I know a child that was questioned 9 times about if her daddy hurt her 9 times she said no.DCFS told the judge they didn't believe her.I guess they only believe the kid when it is what they want to hear.Yes,This agency destroys families.At the same time if a child is being hurt in any way the parents should be hung.
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Mar 31, 2006
 
There am dealing with DCFS currently in Troy, IL, and I must say that they are absolutely pathetic in my opinion. The ex-wife had a meth lab found in her home and the father was told by Gary Crowne of DCFS that his children would not be allowed back into that home until it was professionally cleaned and he was informed by this company that it was safe to return to the home. He then allowed the children back into the home after the ex wife told him she had given the contaminated home a "good cleaning". Gary is a rep. of DCFS and is entrusted by the state of IL. to be protect children. He lied to the father of the children, failed the father and the children.
I have a post with a bit more detail on this forum, meth lab in Troy, IL.
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This agency is anti father in most cases.They don't do hat is best for kids,they do what looks good on paper.I turned a Mother in for smoking weed while holding her week old child.Iwas told if the Mother wasn't giving the child drugs they wouldn't do anything.What was she doing when she was blowing the smoke in the child's face?It is my opinion the Gov. needs to disolve this agency and let the police do the job.How many kids has this agency lost?I use to be a foster Mother.One the biggest reason I'm not now is because of this agency.I am not alone.They should remember that when they start whining about lack of foster homes.
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Mar 31, 2006
 
I cannot find the post meth lab in troy il
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They take children who shouldnt be taken and they dont take theones who should. I know alot of people doing drugs, meth and there kids are still in the home, If they make a check they say everything is okay. Bull Crap
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This world is so corrupt!
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You have to know this is a result of bleeding heart dogooders.The do believe they are helping kids,Their idea is to 1.GET FATHERS OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE THEY WILL STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES.2.GET THE KIDS WHERE THEIR LIBERAL INFLUENCE WILL WORK.iF YOU ANT TO CHNAGE PEOPLE TO YOUR WAY OF THINKING YOU DON'T GO AFTER THE OLD ONES,THEY ARE SET YOU GO AT THE LITTLE KIDS.wHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING IN SCHOOLS ALL ACROSS AMERICA?sORRY FOR THE CAPS.
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Thats just like ritalin they wanted my kid to take it in school, said he needed it. The doc asked me if the school sent me here yes they did. I was called everyday at work your childs swinging his feet tapping his pencil on the desk. bullcrap what the hell they thinkin drug them up and send them to school. They were even giving it to him at school which he hated because people said he took it because he was stupid. So i told them to give me the meds i would start giving it to him at home. Cant get over this i was called in to a teachers confrence to tell me how well curtis was doing now that he was on ritalin, And that it must be working pretty well to give it to him at home, then in school. Little did they know i wasnt giving it to him and never got the script filled again. So you tell me. I think ritalin made him worse there were times i thought he was speeding off it. when i saw a 12 year old hands shake all the time he was on it like he was 80 no way. The hands stop shaken after getting him off it and the strange noise he made in his throat stopped. So There School system.
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Below is a link to the post Meth lab in Troy, IL.

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/troy-il/TRIB9...
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DCF is anti-father. Sometimes the mother is not the better parent. But yet courts and DCF alwasy favor the mother. What happened to the rights of the fathers? The DCF system is a joke. To become a foster parent you have 2 inspections of your home and pass a written test. Or at least thats how its done here. Oh and yes they have a background check done in the county they are currently residing in. Good God of course these people would say if they have a record in another state. LOL The system needs an upgrade. Stop maikng it so easy for chidren to be snatched and then given back to the abusing parent after they complete a parenting class. Sometimes thats not all it takes.
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The parenting class is a joke.They are alse geared in favor of the mother.I can tell my son has had his child for 5 years now.He works a full time job,keeps his child in school,things parents do.He is an excellent Father and does what a Mother should be doing too.My Grandchild is polite,has manners that would shame some adults.I also know how manipulating DCFS can get.They know people know what they are doing and they laugh because they have the people in authority fooled.Unless you have a very good attorney you will lose if involved with this agency.I have seen it.A parent was accused of child endangerment.DCFS acted like they were the judge and jury{might as well be in some cases}because this parent was assigned a court appointed attorney.They did not know this family the next day hired one of the best attorneys in the country.When they found out the charges were dropped.This parent had no more put their chid in danger than a man in the moon.THe school wanted the kid on ridilin and the parent said no.
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I agree, DCFS is worthless. My husband has a 9 yr old daughter who lives with her mother and stepfather. The stepfather had grabed her and her sister and pulled them together so hard that their heads bumped together really hard. DCFS was informed, the stepfather admitted to doing it and said it was an accident and it wouldn't happen again. My husband was in contact with DCFS the whole time during this incident. As usual, they didn't do anything about it and it was unfounded like the incident never took place. It's really sad that it practically takes a child to be killed before DCFS will do anything and then when it does happen, they right it off as..well we didn't know that was going on.
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Apr 3, 2006
 
The whole system of children care should be overhauled, I live in a state where I personaly knew of and tried to intervene in a case where the one parent (Mother) is a hard drug user and had her children ranging from age 6,10,and 16 taken away and returned 9 times so far. The children are dealing drugs in school presently.Children protective gave the mother counslling and each session mother tested positive for cocaine had OVERDOSED to the point of FLAT lining . Yet as of today she has her children. By the way in housing without beds or food most of most of the time . Mother is a hamberger flipper at MacDonalds (Minimum income)I see this as a national Scandal.This is in the state of New Jersey.
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Beth wrote:
I agree, DCFS is worthless. My husband has a 9 yr old daughter who lives with her mother and stepfather. The stepfather had grabed her and her sister and pulled them together so hard that their heads bumped together really hard. DCFS was informed, the stepfather admitted to doing it and said it was an accident and it wouldn't happen again. My husband was in contact with DCFS the whole time during this incident. As usual, they didn't do anything about it and it was unfounded like the incident never took place. It's really sad that it practically takes a child to be killed before DCFS will do anything and then when it does happen, they right it off as..well we didn't know that was going on.
I have a 3 yr old nephew whose mom is a "meth" head and my nephew has brought the stuff to his dad and has shown it to him and the courts still won't do anything for him. I totally agree with you when you say that DCFS is a joke.
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Apr 3, 2006
 
When DCFS cant break up a family they just go to Family First. That way DCFS doesn't have to prove that any wrong doing is going on and they can close the file. Since Family First is not a gov. agency the father in most cases have to jump through hoops to get to see his family. Then they take away that right untill he admits to the wrong doing so DCFS can take the case and put him in jail. Proof, who needs it. He confessed, he confessed I can't believe that worked. Maybe since it happened once it will happen again. Never mind that the police and DCFS wouldn't dare take it to court because of lack of Probable Cause for an arrest.
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Upset Aunt wrote:
<quoted text> I have a 3 yr old nephew whose mom is a "meth" head and my nephew has brought the stuff to his dad and has shown it to him and the courts still won't do anything for him. I totally agree with you when you say that DCFS is a joke.
There was also an incident with my brother-in-laws sister. She got her two kids taken away and they were given to the grandparents. In the meantime she had another child, which was finally taken away also. This time the child was not given to anyone in the family. DCFS claimed that they asked everyone in the family if they would take the 6-9 mo old child, which they claimed they did and everyone said they did not want it. This was not true. They never asked anyone and just stuck the child into foster care. I don't believe that everyone would've said no, not to a little baby.
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I know that i would have taken the child if they were my family... Hell I would take any Baby that was or is in need of a loving mother....
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Just so you know, my husband's ex wife worked for DCFS. She was also a crack addict, and an alcoholic. Her home was raided for drugs which WERE found. This bust happened not too long after she quit her job to move out of state. My point, however...are these the people you want investigating wether or not you are a fit parent? I can't give you a percentage of how many DCFS employees are on mood-altering drugs (i.e. valuim, prozac) or "selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors" (i.e. paxil, wellbuterine), but I can tell you from knowing several of these employees, along with "mental health experts" who are also brought into so many cases, that 90% of those I have personally known are ON SOMETHING. What does that tell us, folks? Are they mentally stable? Are they emotionally stable? Are level-headed and logical enough to make desicions that make or break entire families? I would have to say that having been a teacher and seeing these issues from the inside, the "experts" have very little expertise: what they do have is a piece of paper that said they passed their college tests (well, you don't really have to pass ALL of them to get your degree), or they showed up to class enough to pass, etc. You get my point. I'd like to do some research, but alas as to how much time I really have, to find out exactly how many of the so-called "experts" whose textbooks were taught in those college classes had kids at all, let alone how many of them had kids who grew up to have what society would consider "successful lives."

From my personal experience: my kindergarten son was highly allergic to mosquito bites; he would swell up like he had a goose-egg around each bite. He went to school one day after spending a warm evening outside playing. The teacher clearly "led" him in her questioning (not supposed to happen) as to if his FATHER had hit him (but never asked him about his mother?!?!?!?). DCFS was called, along with the local police department. When I got to the school, I was escorted into a small room with an officer, where I was NOT allowed to leave, or see my son. The first words out of the cops mouth were, "I want the truth, and don't go trying to change your story because it's already changed three times." I was a bit confused...how could my "story" change three times when I hadn't even said anything yet???? Nobody had a problem believing that all of the goose-eggs on his arms and legs were, in fact, bug bites...but that one on his forehead surely had to be abuse.

Irk??????????

So I guess the question is, what do we do about it, people? If there's nothing we can do, complaining won't help up. Perhaps we need to get serious and see if we can't get a petition going around requesting some changes. Here's an idea: let's have potential employees screened for drugs at regular entervals. Another idea: if they need a drug (legal or otherwise)to keep themselves under control, maybe they shouldn't be telling anybody else how to "get a handle on things." (I say this without bias, as I spent a year on paxil during a nasty divorce. But at the same time, you didn't see me telling others how to handle their divorces.)

Sorry. Enough.
MMAD

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Word of advice do not by all means leave your kids with a babysitter and go out with out telling them where you are going. A friend of mine had two kids was to leave for florida that following weekend with her kids had tickets and everything, Was going to live back where her mom was. one child 3 the other 8 months. The girl she was staying with befor her trip to florida said you can go out for the last time your here if you want, (Mind you this girl tried and tried to have a baby an couldnt.) So when the baby got sick and she couldnt find her mother because she told her to go out one last time. She wasnt able to take him to get treated at the hospital with out the mothers consent so she called dcfs told them the baby was sick and she couldnt find the mother. That morning when mom came through the door, dcfs was already taken the kids out the door. kids are still in foster care to this day. Poor things. And the moral of this story is the babysitter thought if she did this she would have a chance to get the kids Why cause she couldnt have any. Real truth they wouldnt of went to her anyway.

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