Our position: Florida can lead the way in finding alternatives ...

I was just thinking of having a collection dome over the Florida House and Senate chambers set up to collect all the hot air and gas from the windbags up there. Surely all those "emissions" would be enough to at least provide power for the State Capitol.

The Sentinel owes me a new laptop..I dropped mine on the ground after reading an opinion that made sense! Please tell me that they'll encourage their readers to write their Reps and demand that they open up the Gulf and encourage nuclear power. We need to tap these resources while we search for new alternatives.

Floria Legislature can find a way to solve its budget crises musch less the gas problem.

Great editorial!

It makes sense to me.

Florida has a great alternative to corn-based ethanol! It's called solar electricity! With battery-electric cars, you can use solar energy to drive your car. The fuel costs would be about 5 cents per mile without government subsidies(equivalent to getting 80 mpg on $4/gallon gasoline). WITH Florida's solar rebate and the federal income tax credit, the cost of the electicity is about 2 cents per mile for a mid-sized sedan. That's the same as paying 50 cents per gallon for putting gasoline into a 25-mpg vehicle. That's right, it's like paying 50 cents per gallon of gasoline!

http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/

Can Florida Trend do a special article in Charles Bronsons
efforts to fund alternatives to Corn nased biofuels? This sounds like a great initiative financial and technology initiative in light of Florida's strong agricultural and llivestock resources.

Thanks

Steve wrote:

Florida has a great alternative to corn-based ethanol! It's called solar electricity! With battery-electric cars, you can use solar energy to drive your car. The fuel costs would be about 5 cents per mile without government subsidies(equivalent to getting 80 mpg on $4/gallon gasoline). WITH Florida's solar rebate and the federal income tax credit, the cost of the electicity is about 2 cents per mile for a mid-sized sedan. That's the same as paying 50 cents per gallon for putting gasoline into a 25-mpg vehicle. That's right, it's like paying 50 cents per gallon of gasoline!
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/

Good ... Good ...
I did a rough calc on the subsidy each way.
assumptions: 20,000 miles per year, 15mpg on E85
electric at $.05/mile =$1000/year
E85 at $4/gal =$5333/year
subsidy to ethanol producer =$690/year
subsidy to consumer =$600

This is a win win win

Steve wrote:

Florida has a great alternative to corn-based ethanol! It's called solar electricity! With battery-electric cars, you can use solar energy to drive your car. The fuel costs would be about 5 cents per mile without government subsidies(equivalent to getting 80 mpg on $4/gallon gasoline). WITH Florida's solar rebate and the federal income tax credit, the cost of the electicity is about 2 cents per mile for a mid-sized sedan. That's the same as paying 50 cents per gallon for putting gasoline into a 25-mpg vehicle. That's right, it's like paying 50 cents per gallon of gasoline!
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/

I might add that we have the Infrastructure in place for recharging electric cars. At night the load for power plants is greatly reduce the time when you would charge your car. You could recharge right from a house outlet. This eliminates the distribution problems with a new fuel. Doing this alone would cut out our dependency on foreign oil as most oil is burn in our cars. It makes no sense to starve people just so we can fuel our cars with biofuels. We need to tell our politicians that they work for us not the oil companies and to allow this to happen.

I thought this solar collector would be near where the car is parked at nite. I doubt the grid could keep up with a car in every garage, but that probably wouldn't be the case (at least right away.) upgrading the grid would add to the subsidy to consumer in my calc.
It's still a win win win.
Please don't harp on the 'food for fuel' thing. We are not starving people, at least not to any greater extent than we had before ethanol. You really don't need that argument to make your case.
This stands well on it's own merit.

Complete idiots. If you use our food to create fuel you are the biggest dumb arses that ever lived on the planet. Yeah! Boy! We can all drive around starving to death. What a bunch of fools.

Plant sugar cane in the median strip of the Turnpike from Orlando to Miami and harvest it for ethanol. With our year round growing season, we should be exporting the stuff.

Protect our kids and grandkids future. Demand the do-nothings in Congress to break the oil habit.

Steve wrote:

Florida has a great alternative to corn-based ethanol! It's called solar electricity! With battery-electric cars, you can use solar energy to drive your car. The fuel costs would be about 5 cents per mile without government subsidies(equivalent to getting 80 mpg on $4/gallon gasoline). WITH Florida's solar rebate and the federal income tax credit, the cost of the electicity is about 2 cents per mile for a mid-sized sedan. That's the same as paying 50 cents per gallon for putting gasoline into a 25-mpg vehicle. That's right, it's like paying 50 cents per gallon of gasoline!
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/

Great...BUT..how much does the car cost and are their any off the floor now in sales lots ?

Gloom and Doom wrote:

Complete idiots. If you use our food to create fuel you are the biggest dumb arses that ever lived on the planet. Yeah! Boy! We can all drive around starving to death. What a bunch of fools.

The world is a mirror, you see what you are.
Happy people see happy things, sad people see sad things.
If all you see are idiots and fools, you are ... I think you get it.
Your name says it all.

You would think the Gov could solve the oil problem, and if you thought that you would be right. They have:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

Getting them to give it to us is another thing

From the above website:

That significant technological breakthroughs in energy generation and propulsion have resulted from the study of these objects (and from related human innovations dating as far back as the time of Nikola Tesla) and that these technologies utilize a new physics not requiring the burning of fossil fuels or ionizing radiation to generate vast amounts of energy;

Ø That classified, above top- secret projects possess fully operational anti-gravity propulsion devices and new energy generation systems that, if declassified and put to peaceful uses, would empower a new human civilization without want, poverty or environmental damage

MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA! MARIJUANA! That weed can produce nearly 10 times as much ethanol then corn can. Marijuana not only has great health benefits, it could help our world get off of the oil wagon. Hemp is already used to make a ton of "thing". This government needs to wake up and smell that sweet scent of MONEY! There are FAR more dangerous problems in this world to worry about.

Steve wrote:

Florida has a great alternative to corn-based ethanol! It's called solar electricity! With battery-electric cars, you can use solar energy to drive your car. The fuel costs would be about 5 cents per mile without government subsidies(equivalent to getting 80 mpg on $4/gallon gasoline). WITH Florida's solar rebate and the federal income tax credit, the cost of the electicity is about 2 cents per mile for a mid-sized sedan. That's the same as paying 50 cents per gallon for putting gasoline into a 25-mpg vehicle. That's right, it's like paying 50 cents per gallon of gasoline!
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/

Is that the same "solar rebate" that the good folks up in Tallahassee beat me out of $500 with when I applied for our new solar water heater, telling me they ran out of money and can't pay me what they promised ? If you believe anything those people promise, you'd believe in the tooth fairy and Easter bunny.

Whatever happened to Hydrogen Fueled cars?

Come on is this a joke florida only leads in percentage of dumb people

Grandma Fudd wrote:

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Is that the same "solar rebate" that the good folks up in Tallahassee beat me out of $500 with when I applied for our new solar water heater, telling me they ran out of money and can't pay me what they promised ? If you believe anything those people promise, you'd believe in the tooth fairy and Easter bunny.

Even without the subsidy, it still is a winner.