Conservatives ready to flex muscles, take on GOP establishment ...

If in 2012 things aren't better with the economy, we could have a serious third party contender for the White House.

Felx their muscles? What a joke!

It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.

The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.

Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

I really need to take a look at the candidates that the grass roots effort is backing so that I can get an idea of where the grass roots effort stands. None of these races are local so I just don't have a feel for the ideology of the grass roots movement. If they are the wacko right or a more liberatarian/conservative minded group. Until I get a handle on that, I'm really not certain if this represents a positive or negative development for the Republican party. The Democrats are certainly NOT my party. Middle america needs a party to represent them and I'm hoping that this grass roots movement is a middle america champion vs a religious right social/fiscal purist conservative group. For as long as I can remember, if you are not extremely poor or extremely rich, you've basically had no representatin. THAT needs to change. They've both CLAIMED to support middle america and have done a fabulous job of making people think they do, however, when you look at the nuts and bolts of what they BOTH have done, they've basically gotten what they want at the EXPENSE of middle america.

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

Don't get too worked up about this article. It's from POLITICO - a righ-wing mouthpiece. It's shameful that the Pioneer Press labels it as political news.

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

We can only assume that you've suffered from blunt force trauma to the cranial region at some time in your life. That, or you're drunk and/or on drugs!

SSP wrote:

If in 2012 things aren't better with the economy, we could have a serious third party contender for the White House.

You are incorrect. A third party only guarantees a Democrat victory. When Republicans run as conservatives and on conservative platforms such as decreased spending and tax reductions for all workers, conservatives win. This period of time is no different than 1977 when Ronald Reagan was wrestling control of the GOP from Gerald Ford, a moderate. Moderate Republicans cause Republicans to lose. No third party candidate is going to make any serious run.

Health Care is a great example. The Democrats want to extend coverage to those at 300% of poverty or less (They can say whatever they please about who they want to improve conditions for, but the mass of the bill is focused on extending coverage to lower income households). The Repblicans want to focus on cross state competition and tort reform. (again, they can make whatever claims they want to sell this as an improvement for everyone, but the bottom line is this policy is primarily designed to benefit Doctors who get sued and insurance companies who want to expand their markets). Neither proposal will do much to benefit the vast majorit of the American public that makes more than 300% of poverty and less than 250k a year. The democrats plan will likely hurt those in the middle the most as it will very likely drive up costs as a result o the coverage mandates and it won't matter if they legislate a premium cap or not as insurance companies will simply cover less by raising deductibles and out of pocket maximums so we'll pay the same premium but our out of pocket will double. The GOP plan would probably help some states and hurt others depending on each states healthcare system. Basically, a perfect example of both parties pursing their own strategic agenda's that are far more about their party the mass of their constiuencies all the while telling each of us how great it will be for us when in fact it will more than likely hurt most rather than help. We need some integrity in Government and some representation for middle america

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

This country is now and has always been right of center, any honest and informed person knows that. The President of the United States of America means just that, it's not The President of Liberal Americans. I've been reading your posts for some time IrishMN and I think you're smarter than that. You'd be wise by seeing past partisan party politics and see politicians for what they really are.

Ridiculous wrote:

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Don't get too worked up about this article. It's from POLITICO - a righ-wing mouthpiece. It's shameful that the Pioneer Press labels it as political news.

Don't get too worked-up, you are nuts Liberal. Your President/Savior Obama is an absolute failure. His Stimulus Package did not supress unemployment at 8.4 percent. That was a trillion dollars that we as a country did not have.

Moreover, Obama has doubled the National Debt. This will further devalue our dollar and drive up commodity prices. Then, wait until interest rates start to increase, just like during the Carter-Era and subsequent to it, 21 percent. The debt Obama is creating is going to damage any positive economic data, so yes, get worked-up because Conservative Republicans will and are coming back into vogue due to the correct and efficient nature of their platforms. Vote Conservative Republican.

Joe Merlot wrote:

Health Care is a great example. The Democrats want to extend coverage to those at 300% of poverty or less (They can say whatever they please about who they want to improve conditions for, but the mass of the bill is focused on extending coverage to lower income households). The Repblicans want to focus on cross state competition and tort reform.(again, they can make whatever claims they want to sell this as an improvement for everyone, but the bottom line is this policy is primarily designed to benefit Doctors who get sued and insurance companies who want to expand their markets). Neither proposal will do much to benefit the vast majorit of the American public that makes more than 300% of poverty and less than 250k a year. The democrats plan will likely hurt those in the middle the most as it will very likely drive up costs as a result o the coverage mandates and it won't matter if they legislate a premium cap or not as insurance companies will simply cover less by raising deductibles and out of pocket maximums so we'll pay the same premium but our out of pocket will double. The GOP plan would probably help some states and hurt others depending on each states healthcare system. Basically, a perfect example of both parties pursing their own strategic agenda's that are far more about their party the mass of their constiuencies all the while telling each of us how great it will be for us when in fact it will more than likely hurt most rather than help. We need some integrity in Government and some representation for middle america

Joe, the only representation possessing integrity is that of Conservative Republicans. Tort Reform and Insurance Companies that can compete across ALL state lines are two good steps to create competition and drive down cost. Government-Run Healthcare is destined to fail as the only way to drive down cost is by rationing. As well, what the hell has worked out well that Government ever got a whole of and ran? Answer, nothing.

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

Please, you cannot be a serious person. If you are then I think you should contract an attorney and litigate, i.e. sue, your parents and the school district that you attended because you are making all of us dumber with your comments.

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

Of course, for you "Irish" there is an option - THORAZINE.

we need Ron Paul !hope he will have us !

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Conservatives? what does that really mean - far right wing nuts? Let the Republican do whatever they want with their party. What America needs is is a new party that will not shred the Constitution for special interests.

Government for the people - by the people. BUT that does not mean Socialism

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

"Progressive"? Progressive in what way? Progressively moving toward Socialism. Please!! Democrats use that term as if they are some how enlightened and know truly what is best for us. Stay out of my life and stop taxing me so much - that is what Government should do.

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

You may have deluded yourself into believing that, but back here in reality 40% of Americans identify themselves as conservative, 20% as liberal. But hey, don't let pesky facts ruin your personal fantasy

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservativ...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservativ... #

IrishMN wrote:

Felx their muscles? What a joke!
It doesn't matter what the Republi-thugs think, they are now a very minor factor in anything that is done in this country any more.
The majority of the people have spoken. Mr. Obama has his mandate, as does the Congress. This country is now solidly Liberal / Progressive / Left of Center or how ever you wish to term it.
Mr. President, continue to do the stellar job that you have been doing, and what we the people elected you to do.

Don't be all gloaty.
The democrats have been in control before, and after time, the country gets tired of their tax and spend policies, and the country swings republican again.
Then, the people get tired of the republicans and go back to democrats.
It's a cycle.
Right now, democrats are in control. That is in part because of the promises made by the democrats. If they can't follow through on them, see how long they last.
2010 will be a true measure of how well the public thinks the democrats are doing.

Personally, I don't care who is in charge.
I didn't vote for Obama, but if he does a good job, then I'll vote to re-elect him. If he doesn't, then I'll see who is running and make my choice then.

People who are of the opinion that "the democrats are in charge, everything will be fine now!" or feel the same about republicans, really need to open their eyes. They need to live in the real world, not their own little section of it.

Both democrats and republicans have good ideas. They both also have bad ideas.
If people would stop hating every idea someone else has, and maybe, tried a little compromise, things might be better.

Instead, we have democrats who feel everything republican is evil and will destroy mankind, and republicans who think everything democrat is socialistic and costs too much and will destroy mankind.

Well, I have news for all you people who think like that.
If you keep thinking that way, and heading down the path you are leading the country, then yours will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
And, it wont be the democrats fault. And it wont be the republicans fault.
It will be EVERYONES fault.

All RINOS need to be rounded up, hogtied and put out at the curb for garbage pickup.

They all need to be ejected from the party or there will be no more party. I for one, may cast my vote for an independent party candidate.
Foget democrats, forget Republicans.

We need to save our republic by electing a true patriot that will put us back on track and true to our constitution--- that is before Obama's appointees shred it or adulterate it's meaning.

Tom Shakopee, why don't you give us your dissertation on Reagan again, I love to hear a fairy tale before I take my afternoon nap....

Tommi wrote:

Conservatives? what does that really mean - far right wing nuts? Let the Republican do whatever they want with their party. What America needs is is a new party that will not shred the Constitution for special interests.
Government for the people - by the people. BUT that does not mean Socialism

http://www.youtube.com/watch...