Wealthy to Pick up Tab on New Health Care Bill

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Master Yoda wrote:

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Quote by Barack HUSSEIN Obama during 2008 campaign...“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”(Dover, NH)[Transcript][Video clip]
http://www.atr.org/index.php... #
Now.......take this quote by the Messiah and SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.

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Paparounis wrote:

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"Smart people"? Who exactly are they, and what have they predicted that has been accurate? Let's start with, "If we don't pass this stimulus, unemployment will reach 10%, but if we pass it now, it will never go above 8%". Ummm... 10.2% as we speak? Or how about, "We will create or save 4 million jobs". As it turns out, only 650,000 are currently claimed at a taxpayer cost of $150 billion so far. That's almost $231,000 per job, and as NTRPRNR1 points out in her post, the 650,000 is fictitiously exaggerated, and the vast majority are government jobs to boot (overhead, not economic growth). This reflects an abject failure, because any moron can "create a job" at a cost of $231,000... especially a government job.
Long term? It reminds me of a silly "Beverly Hillbillies" episode as a child. Granny had the cure to the common cold: Drink her potion, stay in bed, drink plenty of fluids, and in 10 days or so you'll be good as new!
Long term? If we wait long enough, in spite of government intervention, the economy will heal itself. Of course you will credit Obama for the "recovery", just as the "Beverly Hillbillies" credited Granny.
I "comprehend" just fine. If you need help pulling your head out of the sand, let me know.

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SimpleHypothesis wrote:

I would like to know why do people look down on Medicare and Medicaid recipients? Its like an automatic response to someone that is having a tough time as it is but now they are getting the “Down the Nose” treatment! And I really wonder how many people will think differently if they loose there jobs and are forced into a similar program?
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Even when our economy is so bad there is the Mentality, I have mine and I don’t care about yours! This is America what happened? When I served my country did that count if I need help now? When I worked and paid in taxes for 40+ years does that give me the right to use the systems that were presented to me as “Services you have Paid in for”?.
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We have to many judges and not enough partial juries! Maybe if we experienced a Turkish medical system or Jordanian system everyone would be thinking differently? I know that we need to do something about the nations resolve but at the same time maybe we should each one go back to “Love Thy Neighbor”!

sweetromance2 wrote:

The main flaw in expecting the wealthy to pick up the healthcare tab, is that the wealthy have enough money to leave the country. Then whose left?

Chicago Hope and Change wrote:

Stop the thread already.
The debate is over!
The greedy rich Repukes capitalists have failed and we must accept a new way of doing things.
They rich must pay for their greed and racism.
Obama will get us our free health care.
We must have faith in our leader.

Vote Green Party wrote:

<quoted text>Oh please. Stop playing dumb. A lot of middle-class hard working citizens found out the hard way they could lose their retirements in a heartbeat, but the fund managers keep charging away fees and dues and are unaffected.
401ks and IRAs are a scam to a lot of people that dump money into them. More are figuring it out.
But hey keep defending the elites that dont pay their fair share. There is a reason why Republicans are down to 20%.
Even the tea-baggers (a 3rd party) I hear are gearing up to run in Florida. I support their run!
Vote Green Party wrote:
<quoted text>Sure why not. Do you see a problem there?
"Every business transaction done it this country comes with a charge or tax - whenever you buy or sell something. So why is it that Wall Street - when they SELL stocks pays no fees?
And what does a 401k or ira have to do with it. Most people know they are being screwed there with all the fees and such. They also know it could disappear in a heartbeat.
Again folks its simple. Too many of you are just brainwashed not to see it. Put a small fee when a stock is sold - our treasury would be full.
Again you act as if the managers DONT take out fees all the time on these 401ks and IRAs already.
Jeez how ignorant."

My heart bleeds wrote:

Today printed some of the wealthiest TV millionaires. Simon Cowell, 75 Million, Trump, 50M, Ryan Seacrest, 38M in twelve months. Charlie Sheen, 21M, Steve Carell 20M The ladies didn't do too bad either. Tyra Banks, 30M, Katherine Heigl 10M, Marg Helgenberger ,9.5M. Eva Longoria, 9M. Just think what Oprah makes yearly. Can you imagine if this amount of money is made by all these celebrities, how it would pain them to help out with health care. How can people even think of spending this amount of money. Some give to charities, Bill Gates & Oprah do their share, but it is a write off, they have to account for some of their earnings. Obama has it right with what he is doing. Do you suppose any of these millionaires collect social security? Think of the athletes with their millions. Put some of this money back into the economy. Michael Jackson's funeral burial garments were $35,000.$2,000 spent on wardrobe for family.$2,000 spent on ushers clothing.$3,682 spent on framing a picture which stood beside the casket.$16,000 on flowers.$30,000 spent on cars & security & almost $22,000 spent in restaurant after funeral to celebrate "funeral repast." The list went on & on. This country has gone nuts.

Vote Green Party wrote:

<quoted text>Good luck with that. No the US dollar is not going anywhere. We are the largest economy on the planet and a lot of people really want to live here.

ObamaRules wrote:

<quoted text> Candidates often see things a bit differently when they go from the "running for office" to the "being in office" mode! They are not privy to the data and the information that sitting Presidents have. Unfortunately, tax increases may have to occur at lower than projected income levels.

ObamaRules wrote:

<quoted text> Candidates often see things a bit differently when they go from the "running for office" to the "being in office" mode! They are not privy to the data and the information that sitting Presidents have. Unfortunately, tax increases may have to occur at lower than projected income levels.

ObamaRules wrote:

<quoted text> Time to share the wealth!! LOL!

BobbySomers wrote:

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"At the very top of the income distribution, the CBO reports even higher tax rates. The richest 1 percent has average income of $1,259,700 and forks over 31.1 percent of its income to the federal government."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/business/wo...
Sounds fair to me.

CtC wrote:

You have read my posts before.The Military AND internal security are the only LEGITIMATE functions of the Central Gov't.I forgot to mention THAT on this one post.I served.My brother served.Two of my kids served.Many in my family have served.Name the insurance that run death panels.That is a lie.Private insurance spells out what is covered and what is not.The insured should READ their contracts.However,I do agree that folks with pre-existing conditions should not be denied coverage.And,since I did serve,I have more right to live here than you do unless you also served.<quoted text>

CtC wrote:

You have read my posts before.The Military AND internal security are the only LEGITIMATE functions of the Central Gov't.I forgot to mention THAT on this one post.I served.My brother served.Two of my kids served.Many in my family have served.Name the insurance that run death panels.That is a lie.Private insurance spells out what is covered and what is not.The insured should READ their contracts.However,I do agree that folks with pre-existing conditions should not be denied coverage.And,since I did serve,I have more right to live here than you do unless you also served.<quoted text>

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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It used to be 80%, I think it should be again.

Vote Green Party wrote:

<quoted text>Yes its called a progressive tax system. Again this is what we used to have folks - when the middle-class was strong.
Corporations and elites paid most of the taxes. Why? Because they used up most of the common resources. That is fair.
And guess what - our middle-class prospered.
Now our middle class is shrinking and we are fast becoming a 3rd world country.
The sad thing is so many of you middle-class workers are perfect zombies for your elite masters. You defend them at every turn.

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CtC wrote:

There is NEVER a justification to raise taxes.Cutting SPENDING works far better.<quoted text>

ObamaRules wrote:

<quoted text> Could you really be that stupid to presume that anyone could be spot on in exactly predicting those percentages? Are you really that stupid to presume that all of those predicted job increases could come in such a relatively short and limited time frame? Your problem is that you do not have the mental capability to understand that economic programs of this magnitude can not be accomplished almost overnight, and are unable to even comprehend the mechanisms which are in play!

fedupwiththemess wrote:

Good, they stole to get rich anyway. Let them give back to the community.