Calif. Colleges May Ask Students If They Are Gay

Mar 30, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KCRA-TV Sacramento

Students at University of California and California State University campuses would be asked to voluntarily state if they are gay, bisexual or transgender.

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#248 Apr 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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yes, but i neglected to mention what percentage of the surveyed people believed that it's all real...
it was more than 95%.
have you ever really looked at 'american' adults and the silly things that they get all fucked up over? they all look pretty much immature to me.
i'm being nice here, so don't push it, okay?
Do you really believe that American adults really believe Bugs Bunny is real? You are reading far to much into the survey than was intended. The question probably took the form of can you believe what you see on TV in general as being true and most who answered yes would have assumed that they were being asked about things that were of a non-fantasy nature. Nobody in his right mind would think that cartoon characters really existed.

You are being very disingenuous, not to mention outright silly. If one were to ask the same question today about the trustworthiness of what is on TV, the ratings would be nowhere near 95%. Besides which, we are talking about today and not nearly 40 years ago. But then again, it has been shown that you never let realities get in the way of what you post.

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#249 Apr 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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That's because 93% of all statistics are made up on the spot.:p
That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#250 Apr 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, the exact opposite. That could have been an appeal to the minority, which would have made you partially correct. It is actually an appeal to evidence, which is not a fallacy. Evidence has demonstrated that the belief in the supernatural is childish, since education and maturity are the primary causes for one to shed such beliefs and rely on evidence, it is not a fallacy.
I'm afraid I don't understand.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#251 Apr 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept.
Now where have I seen that argument before?

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#252 Apr 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept.
yes... 61% of all 'americans' say the exact same thing.

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#253 Apr 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Do you really believe that American adults really believe Bugs Bunny is real? You are reading far to much into the survey than was intended. The question probably took the form of can you believe what you see on TV in general as being true and most who answered yes would have assumed that they were being asked about things that were of a non-fantasy nature. Nobody in his right mind would think that cartoon characters really existed.
You are being very disingenuous, not to mention outright silly. If one were to ask the same question today about the trustworthiness of what is on TV, the ratings would be nowhere near 95%. Besides which, we are talking about today and not nearly 40 years ago. But then again, it has been shown that you never let realities get in the way of what you post.
why? you are living proof of it.
Gh98 xx

Edinburgh, UK

#254 Apr 27, 2012
I'd be fine to share my sexuality. So people know. I'm gay

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#255 Apr 27, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Now where have I seen that argument before?
Were you talking about your apples to avocados comparison statistics which tried to prove that the federal government can administer a program more cheaply and efficiently than private industry. My wife who is on disability gets much better benefits from a government subsidized private plan than she would getting medicare directly from the government. She pays nothing additional for such coverage and the co-pays are usually considerably less if not nonexistent for many services. It costs the government less money to pay insurance companies to administer medicare substitute plans than it does to offer medicare coverage directly to the people.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#256 Apr 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Were you talking about your apples to avocados comparison statistics which tried to prove that the federal government can administer a program more cheaply and efficiently than private industry. My wife who is on disability gets much better benefits from a government subsidized private plan than she would getting medicare directly from the government. She pays nothing additional for such coverage and the co-pays are usually considerably less if not nonexistent for many services. It costs the government less money to pay insurance companies to administer medicare substitute plans than it does to offer medicare coverage directly to the people.
I was talking about your comment that I replied to:

"That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept."

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#257 Apr 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept.
Statistics are used in scientific research as nothing more than a jumping off point, they are not considered evidence for a reason. Statistics gathered by most that you see published by the news, or agencies such as the CDC, as gathered with a purpose and are skewed by the methodology in which they are collected. They are also limited as they are based on answers given by the participants, not actual tests. CDC statistics fail to accommodate many factors which weigh heavily on reality, like that straight people are almost never tested for certain ailments while gay people tend to ask for those tests to be cautious, thus the reporting of who has them will be greatly skewed by who reports them. This is creates a self fulfilling prophecy in that straight people think they are immune and get tested even less, thus the straight person is actually more likely to have many ailments and never know about them. This inevitably makes straight people a public health risk.

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#258 Apr 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Statistics are used in scientific research as nothing more than a jumping off point, they are not considered evidence for a reason. Statistics gathered by most that you see published by the news, or agencies such as the CDC, as gathered with a purpose and are skewed by the methodology in which they are collected. They are also limited as they are based on answers given by the participants, not actual tests. CDC statistics fail to accommodate many factors which weigh heavily on reality, like that straight people are almost never tested for certain ailments while gay people tend to ask for those tests to be cautious, thus the reporting of who has them will be greatly skewed by who reports them. This is creates a self fulfilling prophecy in that straight people think they are immune and get tested even less, thus the straight person is actually more likely to have many ailments and never know about them. This inevitably makes straight people a public health risk.
twice a year my wife and i get ourselves tested for aids, hepatitis and tuberculosis. once when we have our annual physical, and once at the local clinic... we also take the kids to be tested to make sure that the habit is instilled in them. it hurts nothing and gives us peace of mind. the technician at the lab where we had our blood work done told us both that they had never seen a straight person ask to be tested.

i told her that i think that it's stupid not to. she agreed. all employees, even the cleaning staff and the desk workers, at that lab are tested 4 times a year... it's mandatory.

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#259 Apr 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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twice a year my wife and i get ourselves tested for aids, hepatitis and tuberculosis. once when we have our annual physical, and once at the local clinic... we also take the kids to be tested to make sure that the habit is instilled in them. it hurts nothing and gives us peace of mind. the technician at the lab where we had our blood work done told us both that they had never seen a straight person ask to be tested.
i told her that i think that it's stupid not to. she agreed. all employees, even the cleaning staff and the desk workers, at that lab are tested 4 times a year... it's mandatory.
Good for you for doing something smart. It's pretty sad that so few straight people even think to get tested for things just because they stereotyped it as "gay." It scares me to think that any straight person could be a walking disease factory and never know it.

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#260 Apr 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Good for you for doing something smart. It's pretty sad that so few straight people even think to get tested for things just because they stereotyped it as "gay." It scares me to think that any straight person could be a walking disease factory and never know it.
it helps when you realise that every person in the world is stupid about something.

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#261 Apr 28, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Even if that is true which I doubt (i suppect that at a very minumum this is being presented grossly out of realistic context if indeed there ever was such a study), it hardly proves that most American adults are immature.
Wow! You've hit on the title of a book that would really sell!

"The Oxymoron of Adulthood".

Be sure that every fifth word is some really obscure entry in the OED and you'll have everyone thinking you're actually saying something.

You could be the new neo-Freudian guru. The new EST.

Or just the next Scientology.

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#263 Jun 2, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text> ...yawn... You are really chatty for someone who's had a stroke.
Where did you get your medical license? Through correspondence?

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#264 Jun 2, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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I was talking about your comment that I replied to:
"That is a convenient way to dismiss statistics one does not want to accept."
You totally missed the point.

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