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“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84272 Jun 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
STILL MORE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
#83,748
Please tell us something that is not obvious.
How can a document (that is not part of English common law) have any legal force and effect when it antedates the beginning of our constitutional republic? Tell the Class the legal force and effect of the Magna Carta in U.S. constitutional law. Thank you.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're welcome.
In "birther"-speak this is considered to be an explanation.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#84273 Jun 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
You people complain about GW waterboarding actual terrorists to get intelligence but its OK if your Messiah kills innocent women and children of one of our allies.
1. Please point to any post where I complained about water-boarding.

2. Please figure out the difference between a prisoner being tortured and an active terrorist on the loose.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I don't wail for the dead terrorist in a foreign country, no matter what his nationality may be.
Who weeps for terrorists?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84274 Jun 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
According to The American Thinker Obama's average first two year GDP has been 2.4%.
Please state the data (and the dates) that are their beginning and ending numbers. Thank you.
We can then both calculate (and compare) the real percentage using their data.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#84275 Jun 11, 2012
S&P Affirms Reduced Rating Of Long-term US Debt
(OFFICIAL WIRE) June 8, 2012

WASHINGTON (AP)— The rating agency that downgraded the U.S. government’s long-term credit rating last year has reiterated its assessment and its negative outlook. It says U.S. political leaders aren’t addressing the federal debt burden.

Standard & Poor’s said Friday that it’s keeping its rating of U.S. long-term debt at “AA+.” It cut the rating in August after a battle in Congress over whether to raise the nation’s borrowing limit. Previously, the U.S. government had always received a “AAA” rating, reserved for the most credit-worthy borrowers.

At the time, S&P said it lowered the credit rating in part because it had lost some confidence in the U.S. political system. On Friday, it made clear that hasn’t changed.

“We believe that political polarization has increased in recent years,” the S&P said, citing the failure of last year’s deficit-reduction “supercommittee” to reach agreement.

S&P said it expects the government’s debt to rise, as a percent of the economy, from 77 percent in 2011 to 83 percent in 2012 and 87 percent by 2016. That’s below the S&P’s forecast last August, when it downgraded the United States.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#84276 Jun 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am very familiar with the metric system. How many kilometers between the Equator and the North or South Pole?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet BirfoonBoy believes 18 °C in winter in South Africa has something to do with his imminent ice-age delusion.
Rassie Pieterse tweeted:“Hail in Durban, and it’s warmer than Bloem”.
Got a clue that “it’s warmer than Bloem” doesn't mean "it's friggin' cold"?
<quoted text>
Well, there is exactly 10,000 kilometers between the Equator and either the North or South Pole. And there is also exactly 5,400 NM (Nautical Miles) too and ABOUT 6,200 SM
A NM is defined as one second of Latitude and since there is 90 degrees in a quarter circle and 60 degrees in each of those degrees it is (90 X 60) which is 5,400.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84277 Jun 11, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Supreme Court Refuses To Hear ‘Birther’ Argument…Again
"Without comment, the high court on Monday refused to hear an appeal from Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake, and Markham Robinson.
.
"The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the challengers did not have legal standing to file the lawsuit."
Accord Kerchner v. Obama (2010)

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84278 Jun 11, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
I agree, there are many unanswered questions.
Why hasn't Hawaii DOH said that the document that Obama has released is an exact copy of the record on file at Hawaii DOH?
from #84,243
Terri Tanna wrote:
Why don't you first answer this threshold question:
What is
• the constitutional principle
• the applicable statute
• any final federal appellate court holding, OR
• the legal tradition
that holds a state-issued birth document has any LEGAL BEARING on presidential eligibility under Art. II,§ 1,¶ 5 (orig’l) of the United States Constitution? Thank you.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#84279 Jun 11, 2012
Holder’s Lies Exposed By DOJ Document Leak

Wiretap applications obtained by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform prove Attorney General Eric Holder and Assistant AG Lanny Breuer lied to Committee members when they claimed DOJ personnel knew nothing of the tactics used by the ATF during Operation Fast And Furious.

Why is this so significant? As Congressman Issa wrote to Eric Holder on June 5th,“Throughout the course of the congressional investigation … the Department (DOJ) has consistently denied that any senior officials were provided information about the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious. The wiretap applications obtained by the Committee show such statements made by senior Department officials regarding the wiretaps to be false and misleading.”

http://www.westernjournalism.com/holders-lies...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84280 Jun 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"He admits that he drank alcohol as a freshman in college."
Grand Birther wrote:
So what!!!
The statement was made that there is no evidence that Bush Two used illegal drugs. CT is a twenty-one drinking age state.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#84281 Jun 11, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you please give us the source for :'and after the attack Obama loves to watch the video over and over and over again'. Thank you.
I gave you that a couple of days ago moron. It's not my fault all you do is insult my source without reading it.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84282 Jun 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
That is why his landslide victory (68%) in 2008 was such a monumental achievement.
We are Americans, not angry liberals.

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were defined by by our forefathers in documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. "We the people" expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case. We believe The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn't happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for "dinners," etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.

This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama Campaign "Chicago Machine" dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of "change" from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in "We Will Not Be Silenced."

"We Will Not Be Silenced" is about the people who fight back by simply telling their stories: Teachers, professors, civil rights activists, lawyers, janitors, physicists, ophthalmologists, accountants, mathematicians, retirees - all bound together by their love of America and Democracy. They will tell us their experiences and how they feel betrayed by their own party. They will discuss how their party has disenfranchised them and how, when they saw and reported multiple instances of fraud, everyone turned a blind eye. Rather than support and protect the voices and votes of its loyal members, the DNC chose to sweep this under the rug by looking the other way, or using ceremony and quasi-investigations to assuage angry voters. It is our opinion there never before has been such a "dirty" campaign; the campaign that has broken the hearts and spirits of American voters, who once believed in the Democractic voting system.

We are not angry liberals; we are disappointed Democrats, who love our country and feel the DNC needs to stand for truth, care about its voter base and stop committing actions worse than what we only thought possible of the worst Republicans. The DNC and the Obama Campaign need to be held accountable for the catastrophe of the 2008 Democratic Primary. We must right their wrongs...after all, this is America, the Land of the Free, where every American has the right to a fair, honest voting process, and to have his or her vote counted...

We Will Not Be Silenced

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84283 Jun 11, 2012
Texas Memo Re: Incorrect Information -(PDF FILE)
Voter Intimidation in Nevada -(PDF File)
2008 Caucus Injustices -(PDF File)
2008 Caucus Injustices Part 2 -(PDF File)
Precinct 139 Challenge - Harris Co, Texas
Precinct 139 Challenge - Harris Co, Texas Obama Disqualifications

PRESS RELEASES FROM THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN

Caucus Irregularites Memo From the Clinton Campaign Press Office
Emergency Press Call to Discuss Caucus Intimidation and Irregularities In Texas
Statement from Clinton Campaign Regarding Texas State Director Ace Smith

LINKS

Facts Obama Doesn’t Want You to Connect - by Anita MonCrief
What the Dems know: Cloward-Piven vote fraud
Serious Questions Raised About Obama Tactics in 2008 Election
Fox News: Gloria Allred Cries Foul on Obama
Blog Talk Radio - Take Aim: Gigi Gaston Discusses the Documentary
Two Democrats Say Obama Campaign Used Intimidation to Win 2008 Democrat Nomination
Obama Lawyer Bauer's Conference Call Ambush (Contains Audio)
Letter Hillary's Lawyer Sent Regarding Caucus Fraud
Primary Results in the Great Plains States
2008 Democratic Primaries Popular Vote
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/document.h...

Serious Questions Raised About Obama Tactics in 2008 Election

Recently AIM interviewed Gigi Gaston, director of the documentary film,“We Will Not Be Silenced.” The film documents voter intimidation and corruption by forces working for then-candidate Barack Obama at Democratic precinct caucuses and state conventions during the 2008 Presidential primary. The filmmaker is surprising in that she is a lifelong Democrat, whose grandfather was the mayor of Boston and later the governor of Massachusetts, and she is a Hollywood screenwriter.

She says that after receiving a call from a former congressional investigator, she went to Texas to look into charges of voter irregularities in the Democratic caucus process to choose their presidential nominee. It was down to Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. What she found, as described on the website for the film, was “falsified delegate counts, falsified documents, and other violations” And she describes the “disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign,” and said that the “infamous campaign of ‘change’ from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stop them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices, and stop their right to vote.”

Through interviews with people with a first-hand knowledge of what was going on, including civil rights activist Helene Latimer, a very disturbing picture formed of what the Obama campaign was up to in order to “win” the nomination. Attorney Gloria Allred is shown calling for the elimination of the caucuses.

Ms. Gaston described how the Clinton campaign attempted to bring evidence of some of these irregularities to the attention of the media, but they were largely ignored.

You can listen to the full interview, or read the transcript here.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#84284 Jun 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am very familiar with the metric system. How many kilometers between the Equator and the North or South Pole?
<quoted text>
And who in the heck is Rassie Pieterse?
And my post was about freezing weather. It has to be below 0C for hail to form!!! And they did not mention any cumulonimbus clouds.
BirfoonBoy: "And who in the heck is Rassie Pieterse?"

A local resident.

Try google: Rassie Pieterse hail
Duh!

BirfoonBoyL "And my post was about freezing weather. It has to be below 0C for hail to form!!!"

Ever see it hail in Texas on a hot summer day?

Have you ever seen hail on a cold winter day? It was 18 °C when the hail storm hit.“Hail in Durban, and it’s warmer than Bloem”.

Birfoon Nutball: "And they did not mention any cumulonimbus clouds"

Is that a joke?

Just wipe the egg off your face, pull your foot out of your mouth, and get on with it.

Face it, a hail storm on a warm day in the winter is not evidence that the ice age cometh.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet BirfoonBoy believes 18 °C in winter in South Africa has something to do with his imminent ice-age delusion.
Rassie Pieterse tweeted:“Hail in Durban, and it’s warmer than Bloem”.
Got a clue that “it’s warmer than Bloem” doesn't mean "it's friggin' cold"?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84285 Jun 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
YES!! Tell us whose birth certificate was "revealed to be a forgery" -- not merely some ambiguous determination of ephemeral "probale cause." TELL US WHOSE STATE-ISSUED BIRTH DOCUMENT. Thank you.
Grand Birther wrote:
Hint: It wasn't Romney's!
Still having trouble reading the English language?
The good sheriff didn't "reveal" anyone's state-issued birth document to be a forgery; he reported that his posse "thought" there was probable cause to believe the internet posting was of a forgery.
====
Please remind the Class how any county sheriff has jurisdiction to investigate ANY federal matter. Cf. Article VI.
Did the sheriff determine there was specific detrimental reliance on such long-conceded false document in his county? If so, please identify those who specifically relied detrimentally. Thank you.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84286 Jun 11, 2012
With three screenplays sold to major companies and a fourth, "Madame Lupescu," optioned by Imagine Entertainment, screenwriter/director Gigi Gaston is now well on her way to becoming one of the most sought after writer/filmmakers in the business. Last year she directed her first feature, The Cream Will Rise, a dark, surprising documentary about controversial singer/songwriter Sophie B. Hawkins, which has been screened at film festivals around the country receiving excellent reviews. This led to Gaston's directing her first music video -- Olivia Newton John's updated version of her hit song "I Honestly Love You." When Gaston was sixteen, director George Cukor, a family friend, encouraged her to pursue an acting career; she was never able to commit to acting because she already knew she wanted to write and direct. However, as a teenager she did pursue a career as an Olympic athlete, becoming a champion jump rider, and later used this experience as the basis for her first screenplay. After teaching herself the fundamentals of writing from Syd Field's book "Screenplay," Gaston wrote "Like A Lady," in 1988, in between jumping events. This autobiographical story is about a tomboy Olympic athlete, who asks a drag-queen to teach her how to "act like a lady."

Gaston will executive produce Mockingbird, her adaptation of Walter Tevis's science-fiction novel about a love triangle in a drug-ridden future, which Oscar-winner Steve Tisch will produce. Unreliably Yours, a wild comedy which has been sold to Initial Entertainment, shows the other side of Gaston's sensibility: it's about a wife and mistress who hate each other, but join forces to sabotage the man they share when he goes on a trip to Mexico with their new "replacement."

If Frank Capra's films sharpened Gaston's sense of screen comedy when she was growing up, her heart belonged to historical epics like Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia and Greta Garbo's Queen Christina. Madame Lupescu, which she first brought to Ron Howard's Imagine Entertainment, is her first opportunity to write a story which draws on her fascination with historical subject matter. A drama set in Romania between 1900 and 1940, Madame Lupescu tells the story of crown Prince Carol II of Romania - monarch in an anti-Semitic country - who abdicated his trhone for the love of Magda Lupesco, a Jewish commoner. This summer Gaston will travel to Romania to extensively research this project.

A native of Greenwich, Connecticut, Gaston began her athletic career when she began riding at age three. She moved to Los Angeles with her family five years later, and in 1976 became the youngest rider to win an Olympic competition at the Washington International Horse Show. A top contender for the U.S. Olympic team in 1980, she spent years training during winter sessions for the event, but suffered disappointment when President Carter announced that the U.S. would boycott the Games in 1980. After winning every top award an amateur jumper can win, Gaston retired in 1983, but made a "comeback" appearance at the L.A. Forum in 1989, emerging as a ranked champion in every division.

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/director.h...
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84287 Jun 11, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet BirfoonBoy believes 18 °C in winter in South Africa has something to do with his imminent ice-age delusion.
Rassie Pieterse tweeted:“Hail in Durban, and it’s warmer than Bloem”.
Got a clue that “it’s warmer than Bloem” doesn't mean "it's friggin' cold"?
<quoted text>
Rogue has no clue that Bloem stands for Bloemfontein, the judicial capital of South Africa. I can't believe (yes I can) that he thought Bloem was a temp measurement like F. or Celcius. Ha ha. God, it sucks to be a birther.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#84288 Jun 11, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>

We Will Not Be Silenced
But birfoons will get spanked in court, and get long time-outs standing in the corner where they can wail and cry.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84289 Jun 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
NEW KILL COUNT IN 'ERADICATING CHRISTIANITY' CAMPAIGN
Muslim group blamed for 1,000 deaths just last year
Please tell the Class the specific action(s) that you advocate we take as individuals or the nation as whole in reponse. Thank you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#84290 Jun 11, 2012
American Lady wrote:
With three screenplays sold to major companies and a fourth, "Madame Lupescu," optioned by Imagine Entertainment, screenwriter/director Gigi Gaston is now well on her way ...
...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...

Have you got anything without spam?

Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.

Hee hee hee.
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84291 Jun 11, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama Campaign "Chicago Machine" dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of "change" from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in "We Will Not Be Silenced."
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Now this guy Just Sayin' is DEFENDING Hillary Clinton! What's next? Anything goes with Birthers. New allies when it suits thems from Vladimir Putin to Pravda to Hugo Chavez to Fidel Castro to the Iranian minister of the Interior. Oh , and the much-copied Mexican security measures that the US should emulate. Just sayin'.

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