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Dec 22, 2007

Illegal immigrants leaving Arizona

The Rev. Glenn Jenks, right, talks with men waiting for work outside the Good Shepherd of the Hills Episcopal Church in Cave Creek, Ariz., in August.

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Dec 22, 2007
 
Some are actually deciding to return to their own homeland -- that's great news.

As for the others, they can relocate to some area where people don't mind paying much higher taxes to support them.

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Dec 22, 2007
 
Yeah! you got a bunch moving to Louisiana and Southern Mississippi.
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Dec 22, 2007
 
if they are illegal, there is only one thing that needs to be considered - DEPORTATION.

it is time to enforce the laws.

if people want to come over, they must understand they need to do it legally. yeah. the line is long. but what do you expect with MILLIONS wanting to live in america?

do it legally, or don't come at all.
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Dec 22, 2007
 
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
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Dec 22, 2007
 
truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
You are a self hating putz. The poeple in the rustbelt are CITIZENS! Their jobs were shipped to these shithole countires that are now sending us their poor.

You people that think this is OK are brain damaged!

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Dec 22, 2007
 
truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
Really?, you don't know shit about Indiana.

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Dec 22, 2007
 
truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
Illegal aliens move because they cannot get another job now that this law becomes effective. Also they are afraid of getting caught.
The people who you say take government benefits are citizens. Their work and taxes paid for those benefits. How do you know what they are entitled to have or not have?
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Dec 22, 2007
 
They have done wonders in my neighborhood! Theft, junk cars on blocks, cops, run the houses down, trash in the yards! I could go on and on. The neighborhood looks like good ole' Mexico now! Thank you Mexicans!!!!!!
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Dec 22, 2007
 
ASBESTOS wrote:
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You are a self hating putz. The poeple in the rustbelt are CITIZENS! Their jobs were shipped to these shithole countires that are now sending us their poor.
You people that think this is OK are brain damaged!
The poster below should change his nick to 'twisted truth, boldface lies'.

truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.

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Dec 22, 2007
 
truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
Actually Americans are not even being offered the jobs that are being given to illegals. Much of the recruitment is actually being done in Mexico.

When illegals arrive, they don't get out of the box car with resumes in hand and start knocking on doors. They are recruited and shipped directly to the workplace.

You almost never see jobs posted for the jobs they take any more and certainly not in English. Hundreds of illegals may be brought in to build cheaply built homes -- with never a job posting to any of the cities you mentioned.

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Dec 22, 2007
 
truth really hurts wrote:
Isn't it interesting that illegal immigrants move away when their jobs disappear? Why doesn't that happen when good ole Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America lose their jobs, i.e, Detroit, Cleveland, Gary, Ind. You know, the rustbelt. They have been sitting on their fat rear ends for decades now whining and moaning and taking their government handouts as if they were entitled to them.
And you sound like quite the racist.

All those towns you mentioned have a high black-American population. But -- you find where any recruiters went to Detroit offering jobs to those people -- because they are not. There is absolutely no evidence that Mexicans work harder than other "races". Some individuals may work but overall -- no -- they do not work harder except where desperation drives them.

Blacks were brought in as slaves in the past -- remember?-- and the reason was -- they would work hard for very cheap too. Well -- guess what-- slavery is over and hiring illegals needs to be over too. Pay decent wages and Americans of any race will work.
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Dec 22, 2007
 
Well said Malamute.

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Dec 22, 2007
 

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Have you guys seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Dec 22, 2007
 
Indyeast wrote:
Have you guys seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Reunited States of America

The American Black Sea descends and
the people take back their government.
Place: White House lawn, Washington DC
Date: March 4, 2008

"The people will rise and gain control.
Order shall be restored. It is our
right and our duty to have control over
our destiny."
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Dec 23, 2007
 
malamute wrote:
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And you sound like quite the racist.
All those towns you mentioned have a high black-American population. But -- you find where any recruiters went to Detroit offering jobs to those people -- because they are not. There is absolutely no evidence that Mexicans work harder than other "races". Some individuals may work but overall -- no -- they do not work harder except where desperation drives them.
Blacks were brought in as slaves in the past -- remember?-- and the reason was -- they would work hard for very cheap too. Well -- guess what-- slavery is over and hiring illegals needs to be over too. Pay decent wages and Americans of any race will work.
Excuse me??? Who brought race into this discussion? Not me, dog breath. Here is what you worthless pinheads are missing. You think that American executives enjoy traveling to India, China, Eastern Europe and South and Central America to set up shop? The answer is no. They were forced to do it because they got so sick and tired of Mr. and Mrs. Fatass America's demands for more money, more benefits, more time off in return for producing less and less. The typical unskilled/semiskilled American worker just isn't worth what they think they are worth.
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Dec 23, 2007
 
malamute wrote:
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And you sound like quite the racist.
All those towns you mentioned have a high black-American population. But -- you find where any recruiters went to Detroit offering jobs to those people -- because they are not. There is absolutely no evidence that Mexicans work harder than other "races". Some individuals may work but overall -- no -- they do not work harder except where desperation drives them.
Blacks were brought in as slaves in the past -- remember?-- and the reason was -- they would work hard for very cheap too. Well -- guess what-- slavery is over and hiring illegals needs to be over too. Pay decent wages and Americans of any race will work.
And... thank you for making my point so flawlessly. Do you think it would occur to the unemployed in Detroit to move to a place where jobs are available? No, instead you whine and complain that recruiters didn't go there and offer them jobs. Just remember that the average hourly wage in the US is around $17.50. And you wonder why you can't even get the average? It's no wonder to me.

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Dec 23, 2007
 
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Have you guys seen this?
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Thanks for passing this along.
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Dec 23, 2007
 
Americans....we talk of "lazy" americans who won't work..as the reason for needing the mexicans here to do these jobs, when in reality they are keeping the wages so low that families cannot support they're selves when they are working..it's truly a catch 22 and if it isn't stopped soon it will creep into all our lives. I feel if we sent more work to mexico..and less to CHINA they cuold stay on their side of our borders and still be successful
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Dec 23, 2007
 

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Let cooler heads prevail...please take race out of the discussion, we all came from somewhere. I am an Employer/Contractor. This is real life...My workers, illegal, earn between $15-$25/hour with good benefits health 401K and so on. It's a shame that I hire them but of the last 20 AMERICANS I hired, they lasted at most 4 weeks as the work is hard, long, hot/cold and very physical. Where are all these HARD WORKING Americans that want to work? Please tell me. I don't recruit illegals and I post ADS for AMERICANS ONLY and the riff raff I get, drugged out, lazy and unreliable...I encourage them to stick with it for the good pay and benefits and yet they all quit for the same reason...too hard...thousands squandered on training and nothing to show for it. PLEASE HELP. I can't pay more as the market won't pay me more. How much does anyone want to pay for houses...building costs have already pushed the cost of housing into the unaffordable range...does anyone really want to pay more for houses, if so, great. Is this really about costs both tax burden and societal or is this just a smoke screen for good old fashion racism? I want to know because I want to provide for my family and give others (Citizens or legal immigrants) an opp to provide for theirs...but work is work and someone has got to do it...
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Dec 23, 2007
 
LEAVE BUT DON'T COME TO FLORIDA.
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