Gym teacher accused of slapping student

This is the thread that never dies........

Hit/not hit~ isn't it all over now?

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

Fettig said in an affidavit that she only gripped the girl by her chin as the student aided an injured classmate. The girl also was yelling profanities at students who were taunting the injured girl, Fettig said.
The girl ignored Fettig's attempts to defuse the situation, so Fettig "reached toward her, turned her chin toward her, and told her to get up and 'go play,'" the teacher said in the affidavit.

You should know better than any how often teachers lie to protect their jobs. They will circle the wagons in the same fashion you have done in this thread. Molesters can stay hidden in a district for years, many are never caught. Same is true for the teachers that hit,punch or scream at their students.

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

Fettig said in an affidavit that she only gripped the girl by her chin as the student aided an injured classmate. The girl also was yelling profanities at students who were taunting the injured girl, Fettig said.
The girl ignored Fettig's attempts to defuse the situation, so Fettig "reached toward her, turned her chin toward her, and told her to get up and 'go play,'" the teacher said in the affidavit.

Fettig lied...but it will never be proven.

You two say Fettig lied.

But you can't prove it.

One of you is a thread jumper, the other most assuredly is a thousand plus miles away.

But you two know more than those who live and breathe it every day?

Please.

WOW, you say I am getting psycho on you?

You are the biggest nut job on here. You jump in here after the fact with your antagonistic points of view on an issue you know little about, and then you accuse others of going psycho?

She lied to save her job, ONLY TO VOLUNTARILY LEAVE A YEAR AND A HALF LATER AFTER SHE WAS CLEARED OF ANY WRONG DOING?

Pretty impressive.

Maybe have your group of super sleuthes analyze your posts here. Let them tell you what a bunch of whack-jobs you are.

Because you don't have to know me, but you don't need to to tell me how wrong I am, but I don't have to know you, but DO know the facts, and yet I am still wrong?

I feel sorry for the educators in Texas and La-La land.

wow wrote:

<quoted text> You should know better than any how often teachers lie to protect their jobs. They will circle the wagons in the same fashion you have done in this thread. Molesters can stay hidden in a district for years, many are never caught. Same is true for the teachers that hit,punch or scream at their students.

You sure smell a lot like the Others! Must be related..."hit, punch, scream" THOSE ARE NOT the subject here, Einstein!! Squeezed chin...sounds pretty PETTY doesn't it? Yet one of our dedicated educators is drummed out of town because idiots like you and your "family" of misfits, didn't like the way the wittle bitty baby was treated! You ALL need to grow up and get a life! See how the real world rocks! What doesn't kill ya only makes ya stronger!
You people are still pathetic excuses for humanoids!

Smokin Sue wrote:

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You sure smell a lot like the Others! Must be related..."hit, punch, scream" THOSE ARE NOT the subject here, Einstein!! Squeezed chin...sounds pretty PETTY doesn't it? Yet one of our dedicated educators is drummed out of town because idiots like you and your "family" of misfits, didn't like the way the wittle bitty baby was treated! You ALL need to grow up and get a life! See how the real world rocks! What doesn't kill ya only makes ya stronger!
You people are still pathetic excuses for humanoids!

There are anger management courses to take. You and your trailer park pack should attend.

You provide an excellent visual- sniffing the air the like a dog.

Fettig hits her students, that's why she left. She had two reported incidents but those are just the formal complaints. Administrators may keep notes on the informal ones, I don't know. She knew she had to go. She created her own problems. Her problems will follow her wherever she goes. She would be best suited in the penal system. She would fit right in.

Care to tell us what you, er, she is doing right now as we speak?

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

You two say Fettig lied.
But you can't prove it.
One of you is a thread jumper, the other most assuredly is a thousand plus miles away.
But you two know more than those who live and breathe it every day?
Please.
WOW, you say I am getting psycho on you?
You are the biggest nut job on here. You jump in here after the fact with your antagonistic points of view on an issue you know little about, and then you accuse others of going psycho?
She lied to save her job, ONLY TO VOLUNTARILY LEAVE A YEAR AND A HALF LATER AFTER SHE WAS CLEARED OF ANY WRONG DOING?
Pretty impressive.
Maybe have your group of super sleuthes analyze your posts here. Let them tell you what a bunch of whack-jobs you are.
Because you don't have to know me, but you don't need to to tell me how wrong I am, but I don't have to know you, but DO know the facts, and yet I am still wrong?
I feel sorry for the educators in Texas and La-La land.

The more you talk, the worse it gets for you, friend. Did you start this thread or were you also a 'thread jumper'?

The only thing you are proving, is what a desperate educator you are. There are too many whackos like you in our schools. It's no wonder kids can't learn. Their teachers are arguing on the Internet for years on end! Check yourself in somewhere, please!

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

You two say Fettig lied.

One of you is a thread jumper...

I didn't find your moniker in the first posts. When did you jump into this thread? Post #800?

wow wrote:

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I didn't find your moniker in the first posts. When did you jump into this thread? Post #800?

I'm telling you ...WOW must stand for "WITLESS OBNOXIOUS WANNABE ! Talk about the "nut" not falling far from the tree!! If she's/ he's not related to The Others, she/he should be.... What a family reunion that would be!:) Not too many branches in that one, I suspect.
You'll notice that anyone who upholds Paula's innocence (as did the court system) they believe to be "trailer park trash!" How original?? I've been called that several times over the past few months....

wow wrote:

<quoted text> The more you talk, the worse it gets for you, friend. Did you start this thread or were you also a 'thread jumper'?
The only thing you are proving, is what a desperate educator you are. There are too many whackos like you in our schools. It's no wonder kids can't learn. Their teachers are arguing on the Internet for years on end! Check yourself in somewhere, please!

You are right. I did not start this thread.

Of course, I don't start on a thread simply because the topic "was at the top of the pile while I was browsing." I also am not one who spends "much time on forums like this" and engage conversation "only" when I "notice the threads with recent activity."

If you have noticed my posts, you will notice that, yes, I am an educator (thus, Didacts). Yes, I live in Beech Grove. I do have children that went to Beech Grove High School (thus Narpets). I do know the Dunn's personally, and not just on a casual basis. I also know Paula Fettig, both as an educator and as the parent of one of her students.

I got drawn into this whole situation because of all of the above. Of course, I initially thought I was helping someone. What was really happening was my position of authority and working knowledge of the past was being used and twisted for the benefit of getting a coach removed from her position.

The 15-year old girl falsely accused a male teacher of sexual advances earlier in the school year.

The 15-year old student, herself a basketball player, was overheard by a basketball player conspiring with another basketball player to get Fettig fired as a coach.

There were twice as many students who initially said they heard the smack. When put to the test, making a statement to the police, they backed out.

An entire gym class of kids, and yet only four witnesses: one was the student assistant, who was also the one being conspired to; one of the "witnesses" happens to be a good friend of the 15-year old student involved; one heard a slap, but never saw it.

Probably 20 other kids, playing a team sport, directed to a delay in their class and no one else saw anything.

Now, if you go back and re-read my post, I have also said I do not agree that it was right for Fettig to touch this student.

I also depend on our legal system to sort out the legalities of all of this, which is exactly what they did.

I don't have to deal with any of this where I am at. Since I work with juniors and seniors in an academically advanced program, there isn't much time for this kind of an incident because the kids I work with are self-motivated about their academics and are more focused on 10 years from now that they are who their next basketball coach will be next season.

So, you are right. I also jumped in on this thread. I did it though because I haved lived it. The issue is over, and still people get on here and talk about something that they have no clue about.

But the difference between you and me though, is that this isn't simply some forum that made it to the top of my active list.

I said it before, if you let it die, I will let it die. Then maybe you can be freed to try and antagonize someone else.

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

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You are right. I did not start this thread.
Of course, I don't start on a thread simply because the topic "was at the top of the pile while I was browsing." I also am not one who spends "much time on forums like this" and engage conversation "only" when I "notice the threads with recent activity."
If you have noticed my posts, you will notice that, yes, I am an educator (thus, Didacts). Yes, I live in Beech Grove. I do have children that went to Beech Grove High School (thus Narpets). I do know the Dunn's personally, and not just on a casual basis. I also know Paula Fettig, both as an educator and as the parent of one of her students.
I got drawn into this whole situation because of all of the above. Of course, I initially thought I was helping someone. What was really happening was my position of authority and working knowledge of the past was being used and twisted for the benefit of getting a coach removed from her position.
The 15-year old girl falsely accused a male teacher of sexual advances earlier in the school year.
The 15-year old student, herself a basketball player, was overheard by a basketball player conspiring with another basketball player to get Fettig fired as a coach.
There were twice as many students who initially said they heard the smack. When put to the test, making a statement to the police, they backed out.
An entire gym class of kids, and yet only four witnesses: one was the student assistant, who was also the one being conspired to; one of the "witnesses" happens to be a good friend of the 15-year old student involved; one heard a slap, but never saw it.
Probably 20 other kids, playing a team sport, directed to a delay in their class and no one else saw anything.
Now, if you go back and re-read my post, I have also said I do not agree that it was right for Fettig to touch this student.
I also depend on our legal system to sort out the legalities of all of this, which is exactly what they did.
I don't have to deal with any of this where I am at. Since I work with juniors and seniors in an academically advanced program, there isn't much time for this kind of an incident because the kids I work with are self-motivated about their academics and are more focused on 10 years from now that they are who their next basketball coach will be next season.
So, you are right. I also jumped in on this thread. I did it though because I haved lived it. The issue is over, and still people get on here and talk about something that they have no clue about.

If you know the Dunn's personally as you say you do, you are obvioulsy not getting your information from them. You are wrong on so many issues that I don't know where to start.
The girl DID NOT accuse a teacher of sexual advances.
There was no conspiracy to get Fettig fired. That was made up by one student. That NEVER happened.
Every student questioned by the police gave a statement. They didn't back out. Read the report. The Police Detective only questioned those kids because he felt that they were strong statements and didn't need any others.
This had nothing to do with basketball. This was about a teacher who smacked a child. The teacher lied about the smack instead of admitting wrong doing, apologizing, and getting help for her anger issues. She has once again shown her anger to another student. Again, as a teacher, not as a coach. Even with all that happened, she was unable to control her anger with a student. If that doesn't tell you that she has anger management issues I don't know what would.
The Judge never said she was innocent of smacking the child. She said that what she did to the child was within her legal rights because of Indiana's Corporal Punishment Laws.
Paula Fettig did this to herself.

Smokin Sue wrote:

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I'm telling you ...WOW must stand for "WITLESS OBNOXIOUS WANNABE ! Talk about the "nut" not falling far from the tree!! If she's/ he's not related to The Others, she/he should be.... What a family reunion that would be!:) Not too many branches in that one, I suspect.
You'll notice that anyone who upholds Paula's innocence (as did the court system) they believe to be "trailer park trash!" How original?? I've been called that several times over the past few months....

Doesn't it make you wonder why?

info wrote:

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If you know the Dunn's personally as you say you do, you are obvioulsy not getting your information from them. You are wrong on so many issues that I don't know where to start.
The girl DID NOT accuse a teacher of sexual advances.
There was no conspiracy to get Fettig fired. That was made up by one student. That NEVER happened.
Every student questioned by the police gave a statement. They didn't back out. Read the report. The Police Detective only questioned those kids because he felt that they were strong statements and didn't need any others.
This had nothing to do with basketball. This was about a teacher who smacked a child. The teacher lied about the smack instead of admitting wrong doing, apologizing, and getting help for her anger issues. She has once again shown her anger to another student. Again, as a teacher, not as a coach. Even with all that happened, she was unable to control her anger with a student. If that doesn't tell you that she has anger management issues I don't know what would.
The Judge never said she was innocent of smacking the child. She said that what she did to the child was within her legal rights because of Indiana's Corporal Punishment Laws.
Paula Fettig did this to herself.

So it was a bitch slap?

info wrote:

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If you know the Dunn's personally as you say you do, you are obvioulsy not getting your information from them. You are wrong on so many issues that I don't know where to start.
The girl DID NOT accuse a teacher of sexual advances.
There was no conspiracy to get Fettig fired. That was made up by one student. That NEVER happened.
Every student questioned by the police gave a statement. They didn't back out. Read the report. The Police Detective only questioned those kids because he felt that they were strong statements and didn't need any others.
This had nothing to do with basketball. This was about a teacher who smacked a child. The teacher lied about the smack instead of admitting wrong doing, apologizing, and getting help for her anger issues. She has once again shown her anger to another student. Again, as a teacher, not as a coach. Even with all that happened, she was unable to control her anger with a student. If that doesn't tell you that she has anger management issues I don't know what would.
The Judge never said she was innocent of smacking the child. She said that what she did to the child was within her legal rights because of Indiana's Corporal Punishment Laws.
Paula Fettig did this to herself.

I am curious as to why someone from Austin, TX, Battle Creek, MI and AOL land would be so interested in such an issue, particularly with this great big world of issues out there.

I mean, they have grown men in Eldorado, Texas, raping teen age girls in the name of marriage.

Oh well.

info from Battle Creek, you are absolutely right.

What the appeals court said was that what Fettig "did to the child was within her legal rights because of Indiana's Corporal Punishment Laws."

If you read the court's summary a little more, you will find that they also stated that "even if it was a slap...".

Now, I won't attempt to read the mind of the judges who presided over this issue, but it looks to me like they weighed both sides of the story, unlike most of those who post on here.

Let's be honest. If you people can sit back and say a 39-year old is a liar, and that a 17-year old student, National Honor Society, Academic Honors and top 5% of her class that had nothing to gain by lying about some conspiracy theory, then why couldn't a 15-year old who had absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain if Fettig was fired...?

Whatever the truth really is isn't relevant now based on the court's decision. If all of you still have an issue with this, blame the courts, not Fettig. The Dunn's had her right where they wanted her, and based on the same laws that protect those of us who really do live in Indiana, justice prevailed. Not Fettig.

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

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I am curious as to why someone from Austin, TX, Battle Creek, MI and AOL land would be so interested in such an issue, particularly with this great big world of issues out there.
I mean, they have grown men in Eldorado, Texas, raping teen age girls in the name of marriage.
Oh well.
info from Battle Creek, you are absolutely right.
What the appeals court said was that what Fettig "did to the child was within her legal rights because of Indiana's Corporal Punishment Laws."
If you read the court's summary a little more, you will find that they also stated that "even if it was a slap...".
Now, I won't attempt to read the mind of the judges who presided over this issue, but it looks to me like they weighed both sides of the story, unlike most of those who post on here.
Let's be honest. If you people can sit back and say a 39-year old is a liar, and that a 17-year old student, National Honor Society, Academic Honors and top 5% of her class that had nothing to gain by lying about some conspiracy theory, then why couldn't a 15-year old who had absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain if Fettig was fired...?
Whatever the truth really is isn't relevant now based on the court's decision. If all of you still have an issue with this, blame the courts, not Fettig. The Dunn's had her right where they wanted her, and based on the same laws that protect those of us who really do live in Indiana, justice prevailed. Not Fettig.

I thought Beech Grove schools didn't allow corporal punishment.

Did Fettig get in trouble again? What is it with all these crazy teachers? They are in the media every day for something.

The incident with the people you mentioned in your post happened a while back, Haven't you beaten the horse long enough?

Since you are an educator, you should know it is very unprofessional for you to discuss specifics about school business such as this. Sharing your personal knowledge on a public forum is tacky beyond belief.

One of the Others wrote:

<quoted text>I thought Beech Grove schools didn't allow corporal punishment.

If that is true, you know more than the Indiana courts.

Even Judge Kirsch, in his dissenting remarks, wrote, "We do not know whether the Beech Grove school system has a policy regarding corporal punishment, and we do not know whether Ms. Fettig followed it."

Apparently they don't, and it is obvious that the State of Indiana has laws protecting those rights of the teachers.

nohittingallowed wrote:

Did Fettig get in trouble again? What is it with all these crazy teachers? They are in the media every day for something.
The incident with the people you mentioned in your post happened a while back, Haven't you beaten the horse long enough?
Since you are an educator, you should know it is very unprofessional for you to discuss specifics about school business such as this. Sharing your personal knowledge on a public forum is tacky beyond belief.

No, she is not in trouble at all.

Yes, the horse is dead. I am just beating the flies away to give it a proper burial.

My school business has nothing to do with this, outside of the fact I mentioned I have students with high academic standards. Since I do not teach in, not have I ever taught in the Beech Grove School system, I don't consider my comments "school business."

My comments about Beech Grove schools is from the standpoint of a parent who has children that attended and graduated from the Beech Grove School system. That is a lot more than half of the people on here can say.

As far as sharing personal knowledge on here, it is better than rash assumptions and opinions based on poor interpolation and biased heresay.

But I do respect and appreciate your opinions. Thank you.

onethousand

Didacts and Narpets wrote:

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No, she is not in trouble at all.
Yes, the horse is dead. I am just beating the flies away to give it a proper burial.
My school business has nothing to do with this, outside of the fact I mentioned I have students with high academic standards. Since I do not teach in, not have I ever taught in the Beech Grove School system, I don't consider my comments "school business."
My comments about Beech Grove schools is from the standpoint of a parent who has children that attended and graduated from the Beech Grove School system. That is a lot more than half of the people on here can say.
As far as sharing personal knowledge on here, it is better than rash assumptions and opinions based on poor interpolation and biased heresay.
But I do respect and appreciate your opinions. Thank you.

What can you possibly know about the people who participate in forums such as these? Are you a total nutcase?