Marciano Cruz honored as Santa Cruz difference-maker - Santa Cr...

KEEPINGITREAL wrote:

The only illegals in the Americas are the whites, especially the ones that came in the Mayflower and those after them. The brown man lived in the Americas for thousands of years, Europeans are the outsiders thinking they can claim anything. Just a bunch of ignorant bigots with no sense of morality and truth.

Hey real, your entire life has been supported by European driven technology. Go use smoke signals if you don't like it. America made it to the moon in less than 200 years. It took Mexicans 400 years to discover 24' rims. Your culture hasn't progressed since the 16th century and you are riding on the backs of advances made by others.

Paco wrote:

Why you guys baggin on Chango? All he's being recognized for is doing good by others and making a difference in the community. What the eff is wrong with that??? What are YOU doing? He's even nice out in the water...which a lot of guys here aren't.

Exactly I think the man has done a lot and also put up with a lot to do what he has done. These people don't do anything for their community

Santa Cruzer wrote:

<quoted text>Well here we go! information was reported regarding Mr. Cruz in the past. He's been in prison for drug sales and use more than once and was a gang member! I guess if you turn over a new leaf as an illegal you reap rewards and get a pat on the back! I don't understand it but this is how our country works! Shameful!

I think that typically people who experience the bad side of things and overcome it end up being way better people then the normal run of the mill joe's, in the end.

NCB wrote:

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Mr. Newell;
Your comments typically make me sick. I applaud your heartfelt comments. Congratulations to you for your honesty.

Unfortunately, my comments tend to be based in either historical fact or addresses the truth of the matter. As far as Chango goes I have known him a long time and watched the transition he has made. I may have even been there during the time he decided enough was enough. Don't be sickened by things that have a cure, Chango is demonstrating what can be done to make sure people can get along

ZWalker wrote:

We need more people like this in Santa Cruz.

sure do. Did you know that there are a huge number of non-latino kids who join the Norteno's and at one time they were even joining the crips and bloods.

It is very important for caucasian parents to learn that their children are running around beating up homeless people and robbing people using the family firearms. This is also a huge problem and is going to get their children killed. So maybe it is time for every parent to take the time they need with their children

Doesn't any one who knows him personally he still get's high on pot. This chango guy might be doing well for him self and other kids but he needs to eliminate the weed out of the equation.
Proof is a pleasure point before going out surfing. Hey man you want to hit this!!! But I guess here in santa cruz it's o.k. to smoke pot.

It's usually people like Mr. Cruz who dedicate much of their lives to community causes with joy and unselfishness. I used to live in Santa Cruz back in the late eighties through mid-nineties and the company I worked for, Campbell Soup Company, used to sponsor two teams and it was the best thing we did to unite the employees and give them self esteem. I would like again like to congratulate Mr. Cruz in winning such a deserved award. I'm pretty sure I ran into him back then.

jeffreynewell wrote:

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and just because you voted for George W doesn't mean we hate you just that you don't have much sense.

The funny thing is I voted for Kerry! not that it's part of this conversation! and furthermore how do you know when I was born?? As far as Rudy Escalante...my brother and I grew up in this town and have had contact with a few of the cops....Steve carr, Manny Solano,and officer Green to name a few and we still live here! and I new Mr. Cruz as you call him back in the day!

If what you say is true, why is gang violence in Santa Cruz getting worse rather than being eliminated or at least being substantially decreased by Mr. Cruz's good deeds?

And I am not quite convinced that smoking weed, surfing and playing soccer is at the forefront of a social revolution. Seems pretty hedonistic to me.

Everyday we seem to be reading about rape, random shootings, armed robbery, drug cartels every single day in the Sentinel, mostly caused by young Latino males.

There is a huge distinction between propaganda and measurable results.

And the results speak for themselves.

As to your other point in another commentary: I grew up in Santa Cruz. I don't recall crips and bloods, norenos, or any other gangster BS back when I was in school.

Organized gang violence in Santa Cruz is a recent phenomenon. And it wasn't imported into this town by the evil whiteys.

jeffreynewell wrote:

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Unfortunately, my comments tend to be based in either historical fact or addresses the truth of the matter. As far as Chango goes I have known him a long time and watched the transition he has made. I may have even been there during the time he decided enough was enough. Don't be sickened by things that have a cure, Chango is demonstrating what can be done to make sure people can get along

Santa Cruzer wrote:

<quoted text>The funny thing is I voted for Kerry! not that it's part of this conversation! and furthermore how do you know when I was born?? As far as Rudy Escalante...my brother and I grew up in this town and have had contact with a few of the cops....Steve carr, Manny Solano,and officer Green to name a few and we still live here! and I new Mr. Cruz as you call him back in the day!

Well we must know each other however you hide behind a psuedonym, the fact is Mr. Cruz has gone a long way in supporting the changes that need changing in this area. Officer Green I don't remember and Steve and Manny I have knownn for quite sometime. And if you live in a community that provides sancutary to Illegals you need to use your vote to change what you don't like.

I personally had to leave town to be able to provide a service to my community but still have kids in the area. I felt it would be better to not be supported by the CA tax payer, but it sounds like I might have been someone who was involved in providing you and your family with the products you needed to make it through the day. And yes your response is relevant to the suspicion that you were a GW supporter.

America in Decline wrote:

If what you say is true, why is gang violence in Santa Cruz getting worse rather than being eliminated or at least being substantially decreased by Mr. Cruz's good deeds?
And I am not quite convinced that smoking weed, surfing and playing soccer is at the forefront of a social revolution. Seems pretty hedonistic to me.
Everyday we seem to be reading about rape, random shootings, armed robbery, drug cartels every single day in the Sentinel, mostly caused by young Latino males.
There is a huge distinction between propaganda and measurable results.
And the results speak for themselves.
As to your other point in another commentary: I grew up in Santa Cruz. I don't recall crips and bloods, norenos, or any other gangster BS back when I was in school.
Organized gang violence in Santa Cruz is a recent phenomenon. And it wasn't imported into this town by the evil whiteys.
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Unfortunately if you looked at the history of SC the crips and bloods were requirting whites in the 80s and that a major portion of the crimes that are gang related in SC seem to be happening in Norteno neighbor hoods and from personal experience that includes the whitey. IT does not have to be improted to start from home. And by taking one kid out of gangs he is decreasing crime by one. It is a shame that parents can not be as concerned as this man is.

Jimmy wrote:

Doesn't any one who knows him personally he still get's high on pot. This chango guy might be doing well for him self and other kids but he needs to eliminate the weed out of the equation.
Proof is a pleasure point before going out surfing. Hey man you want to hit this!!! But I guess here in santa cruz it's o.k. to smoke pot.

The jailer sufer john got stoned too. and so does most of the SC population but it is not promoting coke herion and meth or are we back to that movie what was it called. Refeer maddness

jeffreynewell wrote:

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Well we must know each other however you hide behind a psuedonym, the fact is Mr. Cruz has gone a long way in supporting the changes that need changing in this area. Officer Green I don't remember and Steve and Manny I have knownn for quite sometime. And if you live in a community that provides sancutary to Illegals you need to use your vote to change what you don't like.
I personally had to leave town to be able to provide a service to my community but still have kids in the area. I felt it would be better to not be supported by the CA tax payer, but it sounds like I might have been someone who was involved in providing you and your family with the products you needed to make it through the day. And yes your response is relevant to the suspicion that you were a GW supporter.

My family didn't use "products to get through the day" I find that statement to be insulting, you assume that because I knew these police officers and Mr. Cruz that my family used drugs...WRONG! Local kids in a small town back when you couldn't go anywhere without seeing people you knew. This is a forum to voice your opinion instead of going postal in the street! I prefer not to use my name.... people can be ignorant and dangerous!

I used to score from that dude in beach flats back in the mid 80's before I joined Narconon and the Church of Scientology and got sober. I am now a 14th degree Thetan and Tom Cruz is my pastor.

jeffreynewell wrote:

All of you get off of my pal Chango. I have known this man for over 2 decades and if there is one person trying to make a difference it would be Mr. Cruz. While I fully understand the illegal alien problem especially in California. To take your anger out on Chango would be inappropriate, this man has gone a long way from being a very powerful member of the local Eastside gang to tring to steer kids away from the type of thing that he was involved in. More power to you Mr. Cruz

You are right he is or was a powerful member in the SC Sureno gang. He was a member when he was part of the Barrios Unidos. He won man of the year ten years ago and was given a city van. Months later he was busted selling drugs. He is a front and still helps the sureno gang. He is a gang member!!! If we deported criminal illegals we wouldn't need Chango and also he would have been deported long ago. If he was deported long ago the Sureno gang in SC wouldn't be what it is today. Chango plays on white guilt..

jeffreynewell wrote:

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Well we must know each other however you hide behind a psuedonym, the fact is Mr. Cruz has gone a long way in supporting the changes that need changing in this area. Officer Green I don't remember and Steve and Manny I have knownn for quite sometime. And if you live in a community that provides sancutary to Illegals you need to use your vote to change what you don't like.
I personally had to leave town to be able to provide a service to my community but still have kids in the area. I felt it would be better to not be supported by the CA tax payer, but it sounds like I might have been someone who was involved in providing you and your family with the products you needed to make it through the day. And yes your response is relevant to the suspicion that you were a GW supporter.

If your African American then I remember you! and you didn't just sell you used as well!

Steve Hartman wrote:

If I remember correctly, Mr. Cruz, the darling of progressives, was in fact a felon/illegal entrant to the U.S. and twice faced deportation.
Again, if I remember correctly local progressives of political note even demanded that Sam Farr go to bat for Mr. Cruz to keep him from being deported some 15 or 20 years ago. Sam Farr wantonly complied.
While the rest of us have to survive under the laws of the land, pay huge taxes to progressive elitists as the power brokers of Surf City, and live lives of political correctness, only progressives are above the law and contrive special rules for special people.
What is really sad is the blatant disregard of honest information about Mr. Cruz by the Santa Cruz Sentinel.
Kind of stinks-doesn't it?

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Rocket J Squirrel wrote:

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Hey real, your entire life has been supported by European driven technology. Go use smoke signals if you don't like it. America made it to the moon in less than 200 years. It took Mexicans 400 years to discover 24' rims. Your culture hasn't progressed since the 16th century and you are riding on the backs of advances made by others.

Hey Rocket J Squirrel, I think you've had one too many nuts. Scholarly studies of indigenous people of Mexico (Aztecs, Mayans, etc) have repeatedly proven their advancements in mathematics and astronomy. The Aztec calendar is more accurate than our own western one. Educate yourself.

As a coach, player, and supporter of La Liga de la Comunidad (Community League) I can honestly say Marciano "Chango" Cruz has been a precious resource for our community. I've been involved with the league for the last 8 years and counting. Our team INTERNACIONAL SC won the league's top division four years in a row (a feat yet to be repeated).

Every Monday there is a league meeting, or 'junta,' where leaders of all the teams come together to discuss the previous weekends scores and incidents. Chango is quick to condemn any violence and or racism, be it towards white, Asian, Latino, black. or otherwise. The league was started so as to create a positive alternative to gang life and violence in the community. It's expanded and now has upwards of 30 teams competing. That's over six hundred players. This has been an amazing link in the community for players who come from all walks of life. When we see each other in the street there's nothing but respect and a common bond. It has brought communities together in a positive light, especially between Salvadorians and Mexicans.

At one point a summer or two ago when there was a marked uptick in violence locally, Chango even brought in the police to our junta to discuss ways the team leaders could help spread the word to their players and supporters to calm things down and report flair ups. His concern for ALL members of the community is genuine. He may have made mistakes in the past, but should we condemn him for that or praise him for turning his life around and dedicating himself to helping others avoid that same destructive path? I say the latter and not the former.

Our team represents much of what the league's intentions have been from day one: to bring people of all races and ethnicities together through a shared passion for a sport. Come down to the Aptos Polo Fields or Jade St. Park on a Sunday and see what it's all about!

Incidentally, if any local businesses want to support the league or Internacional SC and its activities through tax-deductible donations, you can do so by contacting the Resource Center for Non-Violence.

Gang Member wrote:

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You are right he is or was a powerful member in the SC Sureno gang. He was a member when he was part of the Barrios Unidos. He won man of the year ten years ago and was given a city van. Months later he was busted selling drugs. He is a front and still helps the sureno gang. He is a gang member!!! If we deported criminal illegals we wouldn't need Chango and also he would have been deported long ago. If he was deported long ago the Sureno gang in SC wouldn't be what it is today. Chango plays on white guilt..

but it works and if it helps one kid oh well the Catholic Church also plays on white guilt no one complains