Japan drama as Massa, Hamilton tangle

gabe wrote:

it always seems that hami has his eye on his closest rival, and if he can't win...he does everything in his power to make sure his rival doesn't win either. ex: Montreal, hitting kimi, today, trying to pass massa in the hardest spot to pass on the track...

bob wrote:

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What? Hamilton passed cleanly, Massa screwed up.
Massa blew it, Hammy got pushed to the back, yet the penalties given to Massa didn't match the crime.
And the penalty for Bourdais was a total joke.
Massa was 100% at fault.
Hamilton screwed up the start, when was the last time someone got a penalty for that?
Did Fernando get one when he force Hamilton off last year?
No.
Anyway, It was probably justified, but Massa's incident with Hammy was even more so, the penalty should have been harsher.
Robert and Fernando were the stars here.

gabe wrote:

like i said, a bunch of idiots...a repeat of last year for hami would be great for the sport, i'm praying...

bob wrote:

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What? Hamilton passed cleanly, Massa screwed up.
Massa blew it, Hammy got pushed to the back, yet the penalties given to Massa didn't match the crime.
And the penalty for Bourdais was a total joke.
Massa was 100% at fault.
Hamilton screwed up the start, when was the last time someone got a penalty for that?
Did Fernando get one when he force Hamilton off last year?
No.
Anyway, It was probably justified, but Massa's incident with Hammy was even more so, the penalty should have been harsher.
Robert and Fernando were the stars here.

gwo wrote:

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Would Hamilton fans still be praying aggressive driving?

Go Fernando Go wrote:

<quoted text>Hamiltons driving wasn't aggressive! It was just stupid!! Even Ron Dennis advised Hambo to let Kimi take the lead if Kimi got a better start!! It is a repeat of last year when Hambo lost his head and didn't know how to drive to win a WDC.
Hambo has been calming himself down,realising that he doesn't have to win races to win the WDC.But when the red light goes out,he losses his head!! Hahahahahaha.It's hilarious.
Anyway.Congratulations GWO on another victory by the Spanish driver:)

alawrence8 wrote:

Felipe over shot the turn just enough to enable Lewis to make the pass

bob wrote:

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Well, the FIA will probably help with that.
Already, Massa has points he doesn't deserve, no doubt he will gain more.
I wish Bernie would tell the FIA to screw themselves and go freelance on it.

gwo wrote:

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Thanks. I watched the race on RTL, a German channel. And it was so boring!!!! The commentators sounded like they were in a library and could not lift their voices. Awful! The Spanish commentators make it sound like World War III is happening in the track.
But then, that made me think that F1 is really boring. The only good part is the start, that is where almost everything happens and where the race is decided. Alonso was leading, he was likely to win the race... and I was bored!

Go Fernando Go wrote:

Hamiltons driving wasn't aggressive! It was just stupid!! Even Ron Dennis advised Hambo to let Kimi take the lead if Kimi got a better start!! It is a repeat of last year when Hambo lost his head and didn't know how to drive to win a WDC.

Chippy Dave wrote:

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Bingo. hamilton showed everyone he's learnt Jack Schitt from last year. His face afterwards said it all - half attempted smile during the interview.
However... for some reason, I feel Hamilton may have actually learnt a value lesson in Japan and may benefit from it in China. I think he will be more cautious from now on, especially with Ron on his ass about taking risks.
I'd say Hamilton's penalty was warrented for the first corner screw up, as he effectively took off 5 or 6 other drivers with him at the first corner.
As for Massa, I've lost a lot of respect for him seeing his comments regarding both incidents after the race. He's almost as bad as Hamilton, a pair of friggin weasels.
And the FIA, when are all these free points for Ferrari going to cease?
Thankgod we have a race this weekend, bring on more action and good entertainment!

Montoya4ever wrote:

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I still don't know why Felipe went so wide in the previous corner ... but there is no doubt it was Felipe's fault when he hit Lewis... that's why he got punished by the FIA !!