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Jul 11, 2008
 
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Zsari wrote:
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Talk about twisted sense of progression. Caveman can discuss politics freely. Before there are nations, before there are governments, there is democracy, as it is the most primitive form of political structure.
Any government's goal should be to bring prosperity and strength to the nation and its people while democracy as any political system is merely one of the means, and an inefficient means at that. If democracy is the goal, then there would be no need for government for anarchy is the ultimate form of democracy.
So your view of the progression of man's political history is that he starts as a free individual living in a democratic environment that self-regulates in an anarchic fashion, and ends up advancing to the ultimate goal of authoritarianism, feudalism and all loss of his rights?

You are reading Marx and Hegel backwards, comrade!

Figures.
The CCP is regressing.
It's supporters are too!
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Mirolyuba wrote:
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So your view of the progression of man's political history is that he starts as a free individual living in a democratic environment that self-regulates in an anarchic fashion, and ends up advancing to the ultimate goal of authoritarianism, feudalism and all loss of his rights?
You are reading Marx and Hegel backwards, comrade!
Figures.
The CCP is regressing.
It's supporters are too!
He is not the brightest cat in the Milky Way galaxy! But such people exist and the CCP loves them for it! LOL

Strange that all the advanced countries in the world somehow end up as being a democracy if they follow free market capitalism with the respect for private property. Those advanced countries most wrong and CCP was right all along. LOL

I guess these fellows know human nature too well!
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Oops, should be: Those advanced countries must be wrong and CCP was right all along.

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Jul 11, 2008
 
Mirolyuba wrote:
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So your view of the progression of man's political history is that he starts as a free individual living in a democratic environment that self-regulates in an anarchic fashion, and ends up advancing to the ultimate goal of authoritarianism, feudalism and all loss of his rights?
Human's political evolution is based on effectiveness and efficiency. The very existence of government is in fact a trade-off between freedom/rights and prosperity/stability/security. Whichever system delivers the best trade-off will be system of choice.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
They are throwbacks, and I am convinced that we are witnessing their last days. The sooner the better.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
oh, oh.
Now he's sounding like Adoph Hitler again.

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Jul 11, 2008
 
Avenger wrote:
Oops, should be: Those advanced countries must be wrong and CCP was right all along.
Advanced atm doesn't mean advanced forever. The western advancement is extremely short in terms of human development, and to claim they got it right for eternity is just ignorance. Many times in history, new and more efficient system come to replace old. China today is ever evolving and fast changing, it is looking for a different and new route to success, and it is getting it right more than wrong as the result is more telling than any theory.
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Jul 11, 2008
 
Zsari wrote:
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Advanced atm doesn't mean advanced forever. The western advancement is extremely short in terms of human development, and to claim they got it right for eternity is just ignorance. Many times in history, new and more efficient system come to replace old. China today is ever evolving and fast changing, it is looking for a different and new route to success, and it is getting it right more than wrong as the result is more telling than any theory.
The West has led the world for at least the last four centuries. China is borrowing a confused hodge-podge of Western notions like Socialism, Communism (discarded and failed no less, and a market economy, and showing some success. The Chinese Communist Party, ever eager to take credit for anything, is trying to repackage its borrowings as "The New One-Party Democracy", which in fact, is just Lenin's "Democratic Centralism" with the addition of the desperately needed and subsequently very successful market economy.
Same old sh*t from the CCP.
Brand new wrapper!
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Even the backward and squabbling arab people are ahead of China on this, since the start first of Al Jazeera, and then its competitors. For the first time in their modern history, there is a popular forum for free political discussion in the arab world! But in China "apparently" the people are not yet so advanced!
Why, then, must the central government be sheltered from criticism and exposure? It cannot be done in China, and I will not be allowed to do it here. The most powerful, and all other important governments must accept criticism and opposition, but NOT the Chinese Communist Party?
Next you'll be telling me that it's because they sh*t ice cream, or something ,eh?
With all due respect to the Chinese people, their magnificent history and many admirable qualities, under the "apparently" endless dictatorship of the CCP, China must be the retarded child in the family of nations. And that's sad.
APPARENTLY you don't learn much chinese language. APPARENTLY you don't skim chinese bbs. People here talk freely online. They can even scold CPC. I see we are far behind the US. but we are progressing.If you don't believe, i can send you some URLs for you to check out.
Of coutse i know some news about CPC from Free Radio Asia set up buy your good-egg-us-government.For the improvement of Human Rights situation in china, we are more devoted. If you are helping us improve it, we appreciate it. but if you are putting on air, if you are showing off, if you are hating or discriminating CHINESE PEOPLE, you are way naive.
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APPARENTLY you don't learn much chinese language. APPARENTLY you don't skim chinese bbs. People here talk freely online. They can even scold CPC. I see we are far behind the US. but we are progressing.If you don't believe, i can send you some URLs for you to check out.
Of coutse i know some news about CPC from Free Radio Asia set up buy your good-egg-us-government.For the improvement of Human Rights situation in china, we are more devoted. If you are helping us improve it, we appreciate it. but if you are putting on air, if you are showing off, if you are hating or discriminating CHINESE PEOPLE, you are way naive.
What a liar you are!
I encourage people to try and discuss anything on a Chinese English-language forum like "ChinaDaily"!
Then they will see what a liar you are when they notice the word filters that block the posts, the wholesale editing of threads to slant the recorded discussion to one that is favourable to the party, and the ban you will immediately suffer if you persist in critical remarks.
Liar!
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Jul 15, 2008
 
Mirolyuba wrote:
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What a liar you are!
I encourage people to try and discuss anything on a Chinese English-language forum like "ChinaDaily"!
Then they will see what a liar you are when they notice the word filters that block the posts, the wholesale editing of threads to slant the recorded discussion to one that is favourable to the party, and the ban you will immediately suffer if you persist in critical remarks.
Liar!
well, any evidence. let evidence talk
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well, any evidence. let evidence talk
Try it yourself.
I encourage everyone to try posting at the English forums of the "People's Daily" and "China Daily"----you will quickly realize what stinking liars the Chinese government and the Red Guards on this forum are.
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#896
Jul 16, 2008
 
This is map of Canada in 1867.

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/hi ...

this is the map of Canada in 1949

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/hi ...

Now go F@#$ yourself, Canadian.
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#897
Jul 16, 2008
 
MyView wrote:
This is map of Canada in 1867.
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/hi ...
this is the map of Canada in 1949
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/hi ...
Now go F@#$ yourself, Canadian.
Bad link. Again.

Why do you insist on parading your ignorance?

Getting REALLY panicky now, huh?
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#899
Jul 19, 2008
 
all media have constraints.freedom is relative.

BUT that should not let anybody or any religion or any ideology to claim the TRUTH when they very well know IT is questionable and cuses harm to the very "believers".
Israel would not have survived from internal differneces had it not been for the external threats.
Why not have secular federation where Lebanon, Palestine, Israel, Jordan and Syria (any other neighbours to be added later on)where the aim is to imporve the life standards and chances of the populace. Religions then can be consigned to private matters.
Do It the Chinese Way

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#901
Jul 20, 2008
 
Well actaully I've always believed Jews and Chinese has had friendly relations. China was one of the few countries in the world to accept Jewish refugees when Europe was exterminating them (Shanghai Jewish community), and generally, I know Chinese have a good perception of the Jews. Jews in turn are very quite friendly to Chinese, the ones I have met anyway.
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#902
Jul 20, 2008
 
Leonard wrote:
I think the Jews get scapegoated way to much.
Sure there are probably a few Jewish people who work at CNN...so what!
The vast majority of employees at CNN are not Jewish I assure you.
Jewish people have been ok by me though I don't think I've been around too many.
Astonishing how such a small group of people get blamed for so much.
Likewise Leonard,

Its amazing to me how much is blamed on the Chinese. US economic downturn? Blame us.

North Korea, Iran etc? Blame us.

Tainted Toys? Blame us (in the sense you've been buying the cheap stuff for a decade, and once a few isolated cases of tainted toothpaste pops up, start screaming boycott Chinese goods)

Darfur? Blame us

Problems in Africa? Blame us...when we develop their infrastructure in return for resources.(Kinda hypocritical when the West don't want to get their hands dirty with Africans, stay at home and donate a few bucks to make themselves feel better dont you think?)

List goes on...

Its all fear I tell you, fear and prejudice of the rise of the chinaman.
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#903
Jul 21, 2008
 
Quick dollar from Africa has been possible by Europe and now others only because the leaders in africa have been mostly corrupt.
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