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Conspiracy Theorist
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The Judge wrote: As the JUDGE, I want you to bring me the monsters that put this crap on the net. I will slam the hammer down on them so hard they wouldn't know what hit them. Put their arses in prison for Bubba to have his way and throw away the keys. I'd go after the morons that actually sell the space on their servers to these sick mother fo's. But, to bring in someone to court and tie up the system to litigate someone for watching is a waste. UM did good in firing his butt only because he used company property to do things he should not have done especially at work. But that's it. Another question that pops up is this; what are the privacy issues concerning computers that are taken in for repair? Does a technician have a right to invade the private files of someone who brings in their computer to get repaired? And if they have a right to invade the privacy of ones computer, does that mean that anything that may pop up can be used against the owner? Most kiddie-porn on the Net comes from overseas, where the legality of the possession of such material is far different than here. Many organizations have tried and failed to stop the flow of such material in to the Unites States, but short of turning our Internet here in the States into something more closely resembling China's, it is simply not possible. Yes. IT personnel have every legal and ethical right to look at any file on any University computing asset. Period. If they uncover a policy violation, it is part of their job to report it. Policies are written with no ambiguity in that regard.
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The Judge
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote: <quoted text>
No. Most commercial (and non-exportable) encryption algorithms utilize 128-bit encryption that would require a vast quantity of computing power to break; more resources than even the FBI has access to. The FBI would have to work with the software manufacturers to allow a "back-door" key to decrypt data that they needed to build a case. Thanks for the info. I had no idea them programs had come so far. The same should be done with virus protection, make them ironclad.
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alf
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yes 128-bit encryption(AES aka RIjandel) is hard to crack, but to leak data from that type of encryption is not that hard. using a side channel attack, which does not attack the underlying cipher and so have nothing to do with its security, but attack implementations systems which inadvertently leak data
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Conspiracy Theorist
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The Judge wrote: <quoted text>
Thanks for the info. I had no idea them programs had come so far. The same should be done with virus protection, make them ironclad. Boy, I wish it were. It'd make my job so much easier. Unfortunately, viruses and spyware are programs that run alongside programs that actually belong in your PC--and separating them from programs that are supposed to be there is hard. Essentially, your anti-virus needs to know about all the threats that exist today and search for them all--thousands upon thousands of them. It's a really big job. I sometimes long for the old days where viruses just made your PC stop working, and pimply-faced teenagers wrote them just for fun. Nowadays, viruses are big business; they "shanghai" your PC and make it part of a large group of Net-attached PCs called a Botnet, that can be used for everything from denial-of-service attacks on websites to sending out gigabytes of SPAM.
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Lea
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Nerd wrote: Man! With all of the encryption tools available now-a-days (like TrueCrypt), you would think that these people would encrypt these files so that snoops couldn't find them. These tools are good for encrypting personal data also; good enough that they can't be broken or the data ever retrieved without the correct encryption key. In fact, they are so good that you can't even prove that the file is actually an encrypted volume. they want to get caught
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Gang Green
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Chewey wrote: <quoted text>
isnt it amazing
men start and prolong wars
98% of pedophiles are men
the majority of crimes are committed by men Chewy Im going to guess you chewy the carpet!
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Chester
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I dont want nobody telling me what I can watch. If I want to watch little kiddies 69ing each other that is my constitutional right.
Hey I didnt make them do it. I am just watching the pictures. I got them off the net. So what nobody is getting hurt, shot or killed.
I take my PC to best buy and some nerds find my pictures.
I didnt tell them to go looking around my PC these pictures where hidden inside 2 folders nammed file5695.
Why would they look in there? I just wanted to upgrade my RAM Memory and a new video card.
Long story short I am now down 15k in attorney fees trying to fight this rap. I got framed. This was an ilegal search. They call me and tell me my PC is ready, when I show up 3 detectives arrest me and take my PC. Best Buy then charges my credit card for the upgrades. WTF?
I want my rights back. Now I may face 3 years in prison, 5 years probabation and sex offender status for ever?
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Conspiracy Theorist
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alf wrote: yes 128-bit encryption(AES aka RIjandel) is hard to crack, but to leak data from that type of encryption is not that hard. using a side channel attack, which does not attack the underlying cipher and so have nothing to do with its security, but attack implementations systems which inadvertently leak data That assumes three things: 1) You can see the file at the point of creation, and: 2) You have some sort of access to the machine, either physical or network. 3) Your target is the subject of an investigation in progress--why else would you be using such methods against them? Yes, it can be done. But the window in which you would have to do it is so small as to make it prohibitively difficult.
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The Judge
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Conspiracy, you and Alf seem to be very well well versed in this techy stuff.
Let me throw this at you since I am not an engineer or computer wiz, otherwise I'd try to write what I am about to ask you.
Is it possible to write a virus protection program that would be something similar to artificial intelligence where computers are able to learn? For example, a virus protection program that would evolve and rewrite itself as new viruses enter the system. Can the virus program identify something new, that does not match anything benign, looks for some tag and then rewrites itself to attack that totally new virus?
I know it is farfetched, but you'd be amazed at how many farfetched ideas I have thought of but unable to invent because I don't have the technical know-how. Just a thought.:-)
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The Judge
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Chester wrote: I dont want nobody telling me what I can watch. If I want to watch little kiddies 69ing each other that is my constitutional right.
Hey I didnt make them do it. I am just watching the pictures. I got them off the net. So what nobody is getting hurt, shot or killed.
I take my PC to best buy and some nerds find my pictures.
I didnt tell them to go looking around my PC these pictures where hidden inside 2 folders nammed file5695.
Why would they look in there? I just wanted to upgrade my RAM Memory and a new video card.
Long story short I am now down 15k in attorney fees trying to fight this rap. I got framed. This was an ilegal search. They call me and tell me my PC is ready, when I show up 3 detectives arrest me and take my PC. Best Buy then charges my credit card for the upgrades. WTF?
I want my rights back. Now I may face 3 years in prison, 5 years probabation and sex offender status for ever? Chester, good luck finding a place to live once you get tagged as a sex offender. The Everglades, under a bridge just to name a couple.
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Conspiracy Theorist
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Chester wrote: I dont want nobody telling me what I can watch. If I want to watch little kiddies 69ing each other that is my constitutional right.
Hey I didnt make them do it. I am just watching the pictures. I got them off the net. So what nobody is getting hurt, shot or killed.
I take my PC to best buy and some nerds find my pictures.
I didnt tell them to go looking around my PC these pictures where hidden inside 2 folders nammed file5695.
Why would they look in there? I just wanted to upgrade my RAM Memory and a new video card.
Long story short I am now down 15k in attorney fees trying to fight this rap. I got framed. This was an ilegal search. They call me and tell me my PC is ready, when I show up 3 detectives arrest me and take my PC. Best Buy then charges my credit card for the upgrades. WTF?
I want my rights back. Now I may face 3 years in prison, 5 years probabation and sex offender status for ever? Heh--this looks like troll-bait, but I'll answer anyway: Don't bring your PC into Best Buy with stuff on it you don't want anyone else to see! Duh! Common sense applies to the IT world just as much as it does to the real world. You wouldn't bring your briefcase to the leathersmith to fix a tear in it with your dirty magazines still in it, would you?
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Melancholy Voter
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"scantily clad females who appeared to be between the ages of 10 and 15 years old."
That's not even close to the legal criteria for child porn.
Depending on whether or not he actually gets prosecuted or convicted, he might have a good defamation case.
Lesson: IT people always go through your files, even if there is no "need" other than their own curiosity.
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alf
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Conspiracy Theorist wrote: <quoted text>
That assumes three things:
1) You can see the file at the point of creation, and:
2) You have some sort of access to the machine, either physical or network.
3) Your target is the subject of an investigation in progress--why else would you be using such methods against them?
Yes, it can be done. But the window in which you would have to do it is so small as to make it prohibitively difficult. you said it cant be done, which it can. computer forensics use this all time and can be done if needed. if you have a file or whatever encrypted you must be hiding something. there must be something in there that you dont want others to see. that is why you do it. But if your fixing computer problem like a virus, no you dont do this. most tier 1, tier pc techs wont know where to find or wont know where to begin to crack that file. to the guy who brings his computer to best buy to upgrade ram. after the install the ram, and for some reason the computer does not work properly. their job as pc tech are to get the computer running properly so they will troubleshot the issue, while troubleshooting they can came a cross a file in that folder that is the cause of the problem. yea they might not have the right but if the give a computer no working the way you want. what will you tell them? fix it.
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alf
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sorry for the typos i only got one to type with.
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lab-rat
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Chewey wrote: <quoted text>
isnt it amazing
men start and prolong wars
98% of pedophiles are men
the majority of crimes are committed by men Don't forget that men started each and every aspect of civilization and dominate the workforce in every country on the face of the earth. But thank you for incubating babies. That's important, too.
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lab-rat
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Nerd wrote: Man! With all of the encryption tools available now-a-days (like TrueCrypt), you would think that these people would encrypt these files so that snoops couldn't find them. These tools are good for encrypting personal data also; good enough that they can't be broken or the data ever retrieved without the correct encryption key. In fact, they are so good that you can't even prove that the file is actually an encrypted volume. LOL What's in YOUR wallet..?
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Dust Bunny
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I hate articles like this because it brings out all the sickos who want to justify their sick obsessions by minimizing why this is illegal. As long as there seems to be an unquenchable need to view these images, children will remain victims (my niece for one). Just keep vigil as to what your husband/boyfriend is watching on the net.
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ESPN story
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Gatorsrulz wrote: Typical cane....always involved in something illegal not surprising.
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Kin
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How low will the society go? I bet you there is already a liberal movement to legalize child porn, and adult/child sex relationships. We've already been forced to accept openly gay behavior at the threat of being sued or publicly humiliated for objecting. We've already told our school children that homosexual relationships are okay. The next step will be adult/child relationships, and then worse, people and animals. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.
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Monty
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Gatorsrulz wrote: Typical cane....always involved in something illegal Typical Gator...always making stupid comments.
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