Payton suspended one year in bounty scandal

Mar 21, 2012 Full story: WGN-TV Chicago 25

New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton will be suspended for one season without pay for his involvement in the team's bounty program, the NFL announced Wednesday.

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PatFan

United States

#1 Mar 21, 2012
If the Saints are the only team penalized this is a sham! Many other team do this in the locker room. Guess what? Goodell has way over reacted! Of course he has never played in the NFL so he really is not in touch with what has been going on for many-many years! Goodell isn't worth a pinch of monkey _hit!

Since: Sep 07

Hartsdale, NY

#2 Mar 21, 2012
I do think it is an excessively harsh penalty, but I guess the idea is that Goodell decided to make "an example" of Sean Payton and the Saints and in the end might be more effective in changing the league.

I think in terms of competition, most teams would be glad to give up a few hundred thousand dollars and a draft pick for the chance to take out an opposing team's top player for the entire season - so a minor penalty wouldn't have done much to change the situation.

If you spread the penalties all around, then again... teams would not be properly chastened and still try to injure other players.

Is this hugely unfair to the Saints, most definitely... but they've already won a Super Bowl and sitting out for a year is still a lot better than the career ending and life altering injuries some players were taking due to illegal hits (if it were just hard hits I wouldn't have an issue... but when you look to injure someone you are probably looking to break the rules as much as possible to get away with it).
george

United States

#3 Mar 21, 2012
GOOD!!! It's about time something is done with the dirtiest team in the NFL, they are so dirty they say you can smell them clear up to Canada!! Now they need to start investigating some of the Refs and how much they are getting paid off,, I mean come on,, they could not see the dirty or late hits the Saints were so famous for? I think the entire team needs to be suspended for at least a full year,, If not permenatly!!
Goodell did not over react, about time someone got enough balls to finally do something about it!
ADam

Charlotte, NC

#4 Mar 21, 2012
It about time. Cheaters don't belong in the NFL. Pretty bad you can't play a game fair and square or win a SB cause your better players but because your cheaters. How low can you go.

Besides injuring players purposely is a criminal act.
george

United States

#5 Mar 21, 2012
lonerider wrote:
I do think it is an excessively harsh penalty, but I guess the idea is that Goodell decided to make "an example" of Sean Payton and the Saints and in the end might be more effective in changing the league.
I think in terms of competition, most teams would be glad to give up a few hundred thousand dollars and a draft pick for the chance to take out an opposing team's top player for the entire season - so a minor penalty wouldn't have done much to change the situation.
If you spread the penalties all around, then again... teams would not be properly chastened and still try to injure other players.
Is this hugely unfair to the Saints, most definitely... but they've already won a Super Bowl and sitting out for a year is still a lot better than the career ending and life altering injuries some players were taking due to illegal hits (if it were just hard hits I wouldn't have an issue... but when you look to injure someone you are probably looking to break the rules as much as possible to get away with it).
Hogwash,, it was not to harsh a penalty,, they should have gotten more, we are not in war during a football game, If Goodell didn't put a stop to this now whats next? a death? an out and out murder on the field? If you are not able or willing to follow the NFL rules then you have no business out on a NFL field.
And if you have a coach knowing this was going on and doing nothing to keep the integrity of the NFL in place, then he should be banned for good.
you are right though,, hard hits are one thing,, dirty illegal hits that are not even called are a whole new ball game, and it needs to be addressed, I say Kuddo's to Goodell for having the guts to actually do something,, do I think it was enough?? nope,, not even close.
clem

Hamilton, Canada

#6 Mar 21, 2012
george wrote:
GOOD!!! It's about time something is done with the dirtiest team in the NFL, they are so dirty they say you can smell them clear up to Canada!! Now they need to start investigating some of the Refs and how much they are getting paid off,, I mean come on,, they could not see the dirty or late hits the Saints were so famous for? I think the entire team needs to be suspended for at least a full year,, If not permenatly!!
Goodell did not over react, about time someone got enough balls to finally do something about it!
Sorry, can't smell them from here.

“Kiss Me You Fool!”

Since: Jan 08

Atlanta via Brooklyn NY

#7 Mar 21, 2012
I'm no Saints fan, but wow....stiff penalty considering Bill Bellicheck and the Pats were busted for cheating the year they went to SuperBowl. No fines, no suspensions.

“Try an take 'em ya Varmint”

Since: Jul 08

Rio Rancho

#8 Mar 21, 2012
I like Sean Payton but this is going too far to actually institutionalize a bounty program. He knew about it and he should have put a stop to it. He and the entire coaching staff should be permanently banned from the NFL. Players that were injured by this program should sue the Saints ownership and their entire salary potential should be subject to forfeiture. Players that participated in the program should be subject top lawsuits. Players who are innocent should be allowed to become instant free agents. Once all the lawsuits are settled then the franchise should be sold and relocated.

Since: Sep 07

Hartsdale, NY

#9 Mar 21, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
I'm no Saints fan, but wow....stiff penalty considering Bill Bellicheck and the Pats were busted for cheating the year they went to SuperBowl. No fines, no suspensions.
Video taping another team's warm up drills is bad, but in my mind that clearly less severe than paying players to intentionally trying to maim/injure other players.

Again I have no issue with hard hits... but the types of bounties they were offering basically required a player to make a dirty/late hit.

“Try an take 'em ya Varmint”

Since: Jul 08

Rio Rancho

#10 Mar 21, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
I'm no Saints fan, but wow....stiff penalty considering Bill Bellicheck and the Pats were busted for cheating the year they went to SuperBowl. No fines, no suspensions.
Beg to differ, Belichick was fined half a million.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#11 Mar 21, 2012
Who Dat!? Who dat gonna beat them Saints?? Everybody! ;)
ADam

Charlotte, NC

#12 Mar 22, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
I'm no Saints fan, but wow....stiff penalty considering Bill Bellicheck and the Pats were busted for cheating the year they went to SuperBowl. No fines, no suspensions.
I agree with you except for the fact that these bounties were criminal acts and intended to injure players and take them out of the game and possibly for life. This is their livelihood and its criminal.

And Bellicheck was fined--$50,000 and he too should have been suspended as this fines is useless with the money they make. I believe because Goodell was so lax with the rules that he was a poor manager and he is finally stepping up to the plate.
Wyoming

Douglas, WY

#13 Mar 22, 2012
Alot of tough talk from the NFL, but its nothing but a hand slap, 1 year, this creep ought to be thrown our of football outright for life. What he did was alot worse than Pete Rose laying down a bet.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#14 Mar 22, 2012
george wrote:
GOOD!!! It's about time something is done with the dirtiest team in the NFL, they are so dirty they say you can smell them clear up to Canada!! Now they need to start investigating some of the Refs and how much they are getting paid off,, I mean come on,, they could not see the dirty or late hits the Saints were so famous for? I think the entire team needs to be suspended for at least a full year,, If not permenatly!!
Goodell did not over react, about time someone got enough balls to finally do something about it!
Maybe you don't know this, but the Saints have been penalized :
In each of the 2009-2011 seasons, the Saints were one of the top five teams in the league in roughing the passer penalties. In 2009 and 2011, the Saints were also in the top five teams in unnecessary roughness penalties; in 2010, the Saints ranked sixth in the category. In the January 16, 2010 divisional playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals, Saints defensive players were assessed $15,000 in fines for fouls committed against opposing players. The following week, in the NFC Championship Game against the Minnesota Vikings, Saints defensive players were assessed $30,000 in fines for four separate illegal hits.

As for your argument that the entire team should be suspended...the entire team did not participate. Why should those who did not even know about this program be suspended? Guilt by association? I think not! The rest of the team and the city should not be penalized for the actions of those who willingly participated.
george

United States

#15 Mar 22, 2012
just_sayin66 wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you don't know this, but the Saints have been penalized :
In each of the 2009-2011 seasons, the Saints were one of the top five teams in the league in roughing the passer penalties. In 2009 and 2011, the Saints were also in the top five teams in unnecessary roughness penalties; in 2010, the Saints ranked sixth in the category. In the January 16, 2010 divisional playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals, Saints defensive players were assessed $15,000 in fines for fouls committed against opposing players. The following week, in the NFC Championship Game against the Minnesota Vikings, Saints defensive players were assessed $30,000 in fines for four separate illegal hits.
As for your argument that the entire team should be suspended...the entire team did not participate. Why should those who did not even know about this program be suspended? Guilt by association? I think not! The rest of the team and the city should not be penalized for the actions of those who willingly participated.
I could be wrong, but it almost seems as though you are bragging about all the fines and illegal hits the Saints are famous for, fine thing to hold pride in.
Wouldn't it have been nice to see some of those illegal hits being called on the field by the refs instead of after the game and getting nothing more than change in the pocket fines? I think the investigation in this needs to go alot farther than just the coaches and players,, I'm thinking alot of refs pockets were bulging after these games.
As far as suspending the entire team for a full year? yes,, I will stand by that, every player on that team knew they were signing on as a team member, that does make each and everyone of them responsible for the actions of thier team mates on the field, If they are so innocent why didnt they stand up and say this is wrong? they didn't, they knew, and hoped they would get put on the field next and make that great illegal hit, hard enough to take them out for good.
If your not willing to play by the NFL rules, then you have no business playing NFL, Goodell is enforcing this,, Good for him!!
Sean Paytonfarts

United States

#16 Mar 22, 2012
Bountyfarts....

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#17 Mar 23, 2012
George, I am not bragging. I simply copied and pasted from an NFL memo. Those are the stats on the penalties that you said were not being addressed. It seems like you know more than the rest of us...I haven't read anywhere that the whole team "knew" about the bounties. I just don't think EVERYONE should be punished for the actions of the ones who participated. I am going to guess that the whole bounty issue was a defense thing and that there may have been defensive players who were not involved. I am definitely not saying the bounties were a good thing....but I can just imagine that there are also other teams who have some guys who "encourage" tough defensive plays with payment of cash or something like dinner or a drink. Football is a tough sport...it has always been rough...there is an element of risk involved. Sometimes guys get hyped up in the games...sometimes there are hits that could be avoided...other times those hits cannot be avoided. But this is NOT flag football.
I think the loss of 7.5 million dollars (for Sean Payton's salary) is rather excessive. From what I have read, I think the GM should have been more harshly punished than 8 games and $500,000.
I am bracing myself for the next round of punishments...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#18 Mar 23, 2012
Wyoming wrote:
Alot of tough talk from the NFL, but its nothing but a hand slap, 1 year, this creep ought to be thrown our of football outright for life. What he did was alot worse than Pete Rose laying down a bet.
Have you really thought about this? A hand slap?? Sean Payton won't be paid (7.5 million dollars) for the season that he has to sit out. Have you read the information on what he did/didn't do? He wasn't paying the players...he was told there was an investigation (several times) and he didn't make it stop. I have to wonder if maybe he didn't realize there were actual targets...maybe he thought it was just "hit hard, make them remember you" sort of talk...

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#19 Mar 23, 2012
People come to the stadium to see the stars and not the second stringers who might be forced into action because a bounty system sidelined a star player. That is the right way to go, Mr. Commissioner.
viking lady

United States

#20 Mar 24, 2012
just_sayin66 wrote:
George, I am not bragging. I simply copied and pasted from an NFL memo. Those are the stats on the penalties that you said were not being addressed. It seems like you know more than the rest of us...I haven't read anywhere that the whole team "knew" about the bounties. I just don't think EVERYONE should be punished for the actions of the ones who participated. I am going to guess that the whole bounty issue was a defense thing and that there may have been defensive players who were not involved. I am definitely not saying the bounties were a good thing....but I can just imagine that there are also other teams who have some guys who "encourage" tough defensive plays with payment of cash or something like dinner or a drink. Football is a tough sport...it has always been rough...there is an element of risk involved. Sometimes guys get hyped up in the games...sometimes there are hits that could be avoided...other times those hits cannot be avoided. But this is NOT flag football.
I think the loss of 7.5 million dollars (for Sean Payton's salary) is rather excessive. From what I have read, I think the GM should have been more harshly punished than 8 games and $500,000.
I am bracing myself for the next round of punishments...
7.5 million a year?? come on,, he is not going to miss one years payment if this is what he has been getting, he is WAY over paid, no ifs, ands,or buts about it, money either means nothing to him, or everything to him, guess by the end of this year we will know, his greed and and desire to get that sb wiped out all common sense and morals in his coaching job, Goodell was wise enough to see this, so his job is no longer there,, at least for one year.
It's no different than if you worked at a plant and wanted your bosses job and decided to set him up to get hurt by the equipment in the plant so you could be in a postion to go to the top.
Get it now?? are your morals starting to kick in yet?
Simply put,, Payton was in charge and responsible for absolutly everything that went on in that field during a NFL game, It was his responsibility to make sure the players he was in charge of played by the NFL rules, he failed his job miserably.

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