The Brady Manning Debate - Fuel to the Fire

it took peyton what 9 years to get one SB and tom brady didn't even start that season out. it was his first season as a started and he got all three SB's before his prime. it took manning 5 years with those recievers to throw 49 and it only took brady in his first season with them. manning threw six interceptions in a game i mean come one he's a choke. to run me well into the playoffs i would choice brady.

haha i hate LT he's a cry baby. i have no respect for him. he thinks that his chargers are the best and cried. he's classless and he should retire. i can't wait to see him cry again. if i liked the chargers why would i say all about brady. knowing he's a 6th round pick and was picked 199 overall. the chargers fan would be my traitor uncle. used to be a patriot fan switched to the raiders, then the chiefs, and now a chargers fan. i hate living in CA and being the only patriots fan. that was my disguise. the chargers can fall off a cliff for all i care. everyong hear is chargers all the way im like no their going to loose to the patriots like they do all the time. oh yeah the chargers have 0 and won't get anytime soon. i also own three patriots jerseys a sweatshirt, a hat, a calander, a sweatshirt and championship braclets. i hate the mannings. brady is my favorite patriot of all time. i have a book of his and borrowed one on the patriot reign, and a BB one, also have tedy bruschi and going to get that moss book. patriots SB in 08 and chargers will loose once again muhahaha. how many games will the patriots be up against rivers? i think this season if they make the playoffs 0-5 rivers will be?

chargers fan = me likes the patriots.

tommybrady wrote:

chargers fan = me likes the patriots.

Stolen game films= Patriots Superbowls

chargers fan = me likes the patriots.
i agree

how long did it take brady to get an nfl mvp?
what's better being the best player or being on the best team

he didn't have the WR's then it took manning a lot longer with his and brady was still in his first season when he had them and got mvp. tom is on the better team. i would have tom any day and not manning. i wouldn't want to choke every year

chargers fan wrote:

Haha the patriots will be 19-0 just watch. my chargers can beat the colts, but they suck against new england. patriots will win it all just watch. tom is better than peyton he's already considered joe montana and peyton is dan marino who couldn't win the SB. yes the colts suck and are one and done.

You're a sell out, and you make me sick!!!

Tom Brady sucks d***. I cant stand this dumb ediot and I never could. He is a f****** CHEATER. He is also one of the biggest P****** that has ever played the game. He will never be better that Peyton Manning.
That is just how it is.

J N A wrote:

Tom Brady sucks d***.

When it's not on your mind, it's in your mouth.

skidrow wilson wrote:

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Crack is the scourge of our times...

Yeah, unfortunately, I would have to agree. Rage has altered his thought process.

J N A wrote:

Tom Brady sucks d***. I cant stand this dumb ediot and I never could. He is a f****** CHEATER. He is also one of the biggest P****** that has ever played the game. He will never be better that Peyton Manning.
That is just how it is.

You are so right. He is also THE BIGGEST STEROID ADDICT TOO!!!!!! I would take either Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Brett Farve, Troy Akmen, or Carson Palmer over Tom Brady's sorry needle injected ass any day!!!!!!!!!!

People say he is the best athlete ever, BETTER THEN MICHAEL JORDON (who I might add no one will ever be as good as). I say SO WHAT every single winning season Tom Brady has had has been with a defense ranked in the NFL's top 5 or better. SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, PEYTON HAS PROVEN HE CAN WIN A SUPER BOWL WITH A BAD DEFENSE, WHILE TOM BRADY HAS YET TO PROVE HE CAN EVEN POST A WINNING SEASON WITH A BAD DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!

Hows that??????

chargers fan wrote:

it took peyton what 9 years to get one SB and tom brady didn't even start that season out. it was his first season as a started and he got all three SB's before his prime. it took manning 5 years with those recievers to throw 49 and it only took brady in his first season with them. manning threw six interceptions in a game i mean come one he's a choke. to run me well into the playoffs i would choice brady.

Son, YOU NEED TO READ MY PREVIOUS POST!!!!!!

ps.
Peyton has never been sacked 5 times in a game like Tom Brady's Steroid injected ass has. And the only reason Peyton threw 6 int's at that SD. game, was because he only had pretty much his second string line up. I GURANTEE YOU IF YOU PUT TOM STEROIDS BRADY UP AGAINST THAT SAME DEFENSE THAT SAME DAY HE WOULD HAVE LIKE 10 SACKS AND AT LEAST 6 INT'S!!!!!!!!!

And oh yeah, I almost forgot Tom Brady threw like 4-5 int's in two games strait against the Colts on his home turf!!!!!!!!!

I heard Phil Rivers down in San Diago was being compared to Ryan Leaf lol.

leaf whatever happened to him after the draft?

bboobbyy wrote:

leaf whatever happened to him after the draft?

Well, lets see here the history of Ryan Leaf is as follows.

1.The Colts knew they were going to take Manning before the draft even started.

2.He spent 3 years in San Diago and only managed to get 4 wins.

3.Then he went to Tampa as a 3rd or 4th string QB and was cut midway through the season.

4.Then he went to Dallas and was cut in training camp.

5.Then he proved he couldn't make it in the NFL Eruope

6.Then he proved he couldn't make in the NFL Europe/Arena Football League 2.

7.Now he coaches at either SD state or some small school in Texas.

Since then Ryan Leaf has been officially deimed by NFL networks as the biggest bust in the history of the NFL.

18andDONEwithoutCHEATING wrote:

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You are so right. He is also THE BIGGEST STEROID ADDICT TOO!!!!!! I would take either Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Brett Farve, Troy Akmen, or Carson Palmer over Tom Brady's sorry needle injected ass any day!!!!!!!!!!
People say he is the best athlete ever, BETTER THEN MICHAEL JORDON (who I might add no one will ever be as good as). I say SO WHAT every single winning season Tom Brady has had has been with a defense ranked in the NFL's top 5 or better. SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, PEYTON HAS PROVEN HE CAN WIN A SUPER BOWL WITH A BAD DEFENSE, WHILE TOM BRADY HAS YET TO PROVE HE CAN EVEN POST A WINNING SEASON WITH A BAD DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!
Hows that??????

i havent been here in a while but i see you are still here claiming untrue facts. the pats had the 29th ranked defense when they beat the rams in superbowl 36. second, peyton didnt win the superbowl with a bad defense, he won because the defense played very well when it mattered. they may have sucked all year but in the playoffs they played like a top five defense and thats why they won. third, DEFENSE has and always will be the #1 reason for winning championships and the pats had the #4 defense last year along with the top offense. you dont get as far as they did on offense. the pats have largely been a defensive team since belichick took over and thats why they are the team of this decade. and by the way, brady has never had a losing season. he has the best playoff record in history, has been to 4 superbowls in 8 years and has the most come from behind wins in history. i can go on but the bottom line is, brady doesnt crack under pressure, as proven by his rediculous completion and td rate while being rushed last year, and manning still has a losing playoff record for his career.

18andDONEwithoutCHEATING wrote:

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Son, YOU NEED TO READ MY PREVIOUS POST!!!!!!
ps.
Peyton has never been sacked 5 times in a game like Tom Brady's Steroid injected ass has. And the only reason Peyton threw 6 int's at that SD. game, was because he only had pretty much his second string line up. I GURANTEE YOU IF YOU PUT TOM STEROIDS BRADY UP AGAINST THAT SAME DEFENSE THAT SAME DAY HE WOULD HAVE LIKE 10 SACKS AND AT LEAST 6 INT'S!!!!!!!!!
And oh yeah, I almost forgot Tom Brady threw like 4-5 int's in two games strait against the Colts on his home turf!!!!!!!!!

no you are confusing tom with manning when he played the chargers last year. and for the record, i would like to point out that only the morons like you from indy are talking about brady using steroids. that has never come up in a conversation with real adults talking football. by the way, any more colts shoot up a neighborhood lately?

patsfan111111 wrote:

<quoted text>no you are confusing tom with manning when he played the chargers last year. and for the record, i would like to point out that only the morons like you from indy are talking about brady using steroids. that has never come up in a conversation with real adults talking football. by the way, any more colts shoot up a neighborhood lately?

No, your the MORON so let me tell you the strait up facts. I don't care who ya are or what you've done., if you lose a SB one year with one or more under your belt your a LOSER:
1.Bills in 1990/91, OK no SB's under their belts they went to 4 strait and lost everyone of them

2.1994/95 SD Chargers (lost the SB to the San Fransisco 49ers)-Lost in the first round of the playoffs to the Colts.

NOW WE GET TO THE TEAMS WITH ONE OR MORE UNDER THEIR BELT:
3.1995/96 Pittsburgh Steelers (Lost the SB in a rematch against Dallas)-Went down in the second round of the playoffs THE FOLLOWING YEAR to New England.

4.1996/97 New England Patriots (Lost to the Packers in the SB)-Lost in the second round of the playoffs to the Broncos.

5.1997/98 Green Bay Packers (upset by the Broncos in the SB)-Lost in the first round to San Fransisco THE FOLLOWING YEAR in the playoffs.

6.1998/1999 Atlanta Falcons (Smashed in the SB by the Denver Broncos)-couldn't even make the playoffs the following year

7.1999/2000-Tenn. Titans (lost a heartbreaker to the Rams in the SB) OK, they made the playoffs and were upset in the second round in a by game.

8.2000/2001-New York Gaints (Smashed in the SB by the Ravens)-couldn't even make the playoffs the following year

9.2001/2002-StL Rams (upset in the SB by the Patriots) expected to win it all the following year-yet they couldn't even make the playoffs.

10.2002/2003-La Raiders (Beat by the Buccs in the SB)-had the second worst record in the league the following year.

11.2003/2004-Carolina Panthers (lost in the SB to the Patriots)-failed to make the playoffs the following season

12.2004/2005 Philly Eagles (Lost the SB to the Patriots)-failed to make the playoffs the following year and finished last in their devison.

13.2005/2006 Seattle Sea Hawks (defeated by the Steelers in the Super Bowl)-taken out in the second round of the playoffs the following year.

14.2006/2007 Chicago Bears (lost the SB to the Colts)-Finished last in their devison the following year.

Tom Brady-Admitted on ESPN to using Clemens trainer but not steroids. The next day Clemens trainer was fired.

One trainer suppling steroids to one cleint=that same trainer suppling steroids to ALL HIS CLIENTS!!!!!!!!!

There for Tom Brady may have quit his steroid use, but until the day the public found out about Clemens trainer he was a steroid addict. And if you look at him in the 2000 NFL combine it's a no brainer!!!!!!!!!!

There for I am the one who's right and you are the idiot faget who doesn't know what the fuck you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!

THERE FOR YOUR TEAM IS 18* AND DONE FOR NEXT SEASON!!!!!!!!!!

As for the Colts, well I'd say you can count on them not having quite as good a record as last year. BUT MISSING THE PLAYOFFS COME ON!!!!!!

THE COLTS HAVE THE SECOND YOUNGEST TEAM IN THE NFL, WHILE THE PATS HAVE CLOSE TO THE OLDEST TEAM IN THE NFL!!!!!!!! AND JUST LOOK HOW THE COLTS REBOUNDED LAST TIME THEY CHOKED IN THE BY ROUND!!!!!

As for the Pat D, well I guess your just plain calling NFL legend Terry Bradshaw A liar. THAT'S JUST WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

patsfan111111 wrote:

<quoted text>i havent been here in a while but i see you are still here claiming untrue facts. the pats had the 29th ranked defense when they beat the rams in superbowl 36. second, peyton didnt win the superbowl with a bad defense, he won because the defense played very well when it mattered. they may have sucked all year but in the playoffs they played like a top five defense and thats why they won. third, DEFENSE has and always will be the #1 reason for winning championships and the pats had the #4 defense last year along with the top offense. you dont get as far as they did on offense. the pats have largely been a defensive team since belichick took over and thats why they are the team of this decade. and by the way, brady has never had a losing season. he has the best playoff record in history, has been to 4 superbowls in 8 years and has the most come from behind wins in history. i can go on but the bottom line is, brady doesnt crack under pressure, as proven by his rediculous completion and td rate while being rushed last year, and manning still has a losing playoff record for his career.

The PATS ARE MORE LIKE THE MOST HATED TEAM OF THE DECADE WITH THAT FAT BASTARD CHEATER BELITITS COACH OF THEIRS!!!!!!!!!!
As for the Team of the decade WELL THAT TITLE BELONGS TO THE MANNINGS!!!!!!!!!!

Also that SB 36 D the Pats had may have been ranked 29th at the beginning of the year, but at the end of the year I'm sure it was top 5!!!!!!!
COME ON THEY HAD RICHA