Minor Football League chief: We'd welcome Vick

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

If Mike has to take baby steps back to his place at the top, then so be it. He'll back in the NFL soon enough though. This will give him a chance to show the NFL what they've been missing.

You just don't care about anything but seeing Vick back in the NFL do you Dowhat? I would really like to know what your motives are. I swear if you had to watch videos of Vick killing his dogs you would still get a bigger thrill out of watching him play. Is it because you might get a thrill out of killing animals too and it's a turn on to watch a man who has actually done these things? Sure looks suspicious to me.

Maybe this would keep Vick occupied. I'd rather him be here than at HSUS or the Boys Club
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-nfl-for-m...

Barbara Hathaway wrote:

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You just don't care about anything but seeing Vick back in the NFL do you Dowhat? I would really like to know what your motives are. I swear if you had to watch videos of Vick killing his dogs you would still get a bigger thrill out of watching him play. Is it because you might get a thrill out of killing animals too and it's a turn on to watch a man who has actually done these things? Sure looks suspicious to me.

Right on point, Babs. These people who support Vick try to pretend that they are so pure of motive in their support of him. It's about redemption and forgiveness: BULL!!! There is something about the evil of this man that they are attracted to; just can't admit it to themselves or are in complete denial. MV represents something dangerous and dark to them and they LOVE him for it.

Betty wrote:

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Right on point, Babs. These people who support Vick try to pretend that they are so pure of motive in their support of him. It's about redemption and forgiveness: BULL!!! There is something about the evil of this man that they are attracted to; just can't admit it to themselves or are in complete denial. MV represents something dangerous and dark to them and they LOVE him for it.

People has always kind of liked "bad boys" Thing is, Vicks's bad went WAAAAAAY beyond the pale and what can even be CONSIDERED cool.

Rachael wrote:

<quoted text>People has always kind of liked "bad boys" Thing is, Vicks's bad went WAAAAAAY beyond the pale and what can even be CONSIDERED cool.

Pretty much like those wacked out people who write fan letters to serial killers and send them care packages. They don't have the courage (I use that term loosely) to do those things themselves, so they hook up with someone who does; living vicariously.

Betty wrote:

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Right on point, Babs. These people who support Vick try to pretend that they are so pure of motive in their support of him. It's about redemption and forgiveness: BULL!!! There is something about the evil of this man that they are attracted to; just can't admit it to themselves or are in complete denial. MV represents something dangerous and dark to them and they LOVE him for it.

I see a lot of avid football fans who eat, sleep and live for football season. My favorite son-in-law is one of them (Steelers). My son is an avid fan as well (Redskins). I don't even discuss Michael Vick with them much but they've both told me that he will probably be back in the NFL because basically fans don't care one way or the other. What I got from them is that people like Michael Vick and the other criminals that are now playing are expendable and replaceable but if they play it's just accepted. I consider both of them to be the average fan. But the Vick supporters go beyond average and are practically demanding Vick's return to the NFL and feel that his crimes should be overlooked and forgiven. These are the ones I don't consider normal fans. Normal fans aren't pushing one way or the other and just accept whatever the NFL does. Vick supporters are not normal fans and probably don't even care much about the game. Their only agenda is getting Michael Vick back into the NFL and would overlook every criminal act he has done to win for him. I find something seriously wrong with that.

Rachael wrote:

<quoted text>People has always kind of liked "bad boys" Thing is, Vicks's bad went WAAAAAAY beyond the pale and what can even be CONSIDERED cool.

There are "bad boys" and then there are "sick bad boys". I don't think Vick even qualifies as a "bad boy" because he doesn't fit the "tough" image young girls look for. He plays football and is an arrogant, rich man. That's about as tough as he gets. But his true quality is in a dogfighting pit watching dogs tear each other to bits then progressing on to the torture and killing of poorly performing dogs. Nothing tough about that because those dogs can't fight back. He is just a cowardly thug. A real "tough guy" would pick on somebody who could give him a fair fight. Vick sure hasn't ever done that and never will.

I go to Other sports blogs quite often to get what they say. It is about 60/40 AGAINST Vick. But I think most of the boycott AGAINST Vick will be more silent thru petitions and e-mails.The NFL is feeling the economic stress so I can't see them risking sponsorship.

Delores wrote:

I go to Other sports blogs quite often to get what they say. It is about 60/40 AGAINST Vick. But I think most of the boycott AGAINST Vick will be more silent thru petitions and e-mails.The NFL is feeling the economic stress so I can't see them risking sponsorship.

I sure hope you're right.

Put it this way, his overrated comeback won't be this year.

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

If Mike has to take baby steps back to his place at the top, then so be it. He'll back in the NFL soon enough though. This will give him a chance to show the NFL what they've been missing.

You do know this POS thug doesn't give the first s*h*it about you don't you? Just because you are a forlorn ghetto hoodrat ho with a case of the serious hots for this no good POS doesn't mean you have to post your insane little love rants for the vick-s-h-i-t that we all have to read.

HO, write the thug a letter. Go see him. Fight his pole dancing ho hoodrat babymamma for his STD's if you must but don't make us read your sex induced fantasies about the POS here on a national stage.

You are SICK!

badabing wrote:

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You do know this POS thug doesn't give the first s*h*it about you don't you? Just because you are a forlorn ghetto hoodrat ho with a case of the serious hots for this no good POS doesn't mean you have to post your insane little love rants for the vick-s-h-i-t that we all have to read.
HO, write the thug a letter. Go see him. Fight his pole dancing ho hoodrat babymamma for his STD's if you must but don't make us read your sex induced fantasies about the POS here on a national stage.
You are SICK!

you are the one that is sick, do you even have an idea of how to make a comment without all of the insults, i agree that vick has issues to say the least and I don't necessarily agree with DOWHAT, but there is a way to disagree without all of the insults.

Guess you have had the full Vick fan experience. I don't care what anyone says to them

Barbara Hathaway wrote:

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There are "bad boys" and then there are "sick bad boys". I don't think Vick even qualifies as a "bad boy" because he doesn't fit the "tough" image young girls look for. He plays football and is an arrogant, rich man. That's about as tough as he gets. But his true quality is in a dogfighting pit watching dogs tear each other to bits then progressing on to the torture and killing of poorly performing dogs. Nothing tough about that because those dogs can't fight back. He is just a cowardly thug. A real "tough guy" would pick on somebody who could give him a fair fight. Vick sure hasn't ever done that and never will.

this is true. Anbreen used to have a link about the small penis envy. Remember what it was?

journey wrote:

<quoted text>you are the one that is sick, do you even have an idea of how to make a comment without all of the insults, i agree that vick has issues to say the least and I don't necessarily agree with DOWHAT, but there is a way to disagree without all of the insults.

Once again there are some people who want to turn these open forums into the MV hate forum only and attack anyone who says something that isn't similar to theirs.

This person is just a screenname changing, keyboard commando who wants to take all of their life frustrations out on those who Post comments here with opposing opinions.

How this person went from my post to the personal attack says more about the serious flaws in their character than it does about mine because I support a human beings legal rights which if they read my old posts they would know is the reason for my supporting his return to the NFL or playing football somewhere.

Mike Vick doesn't know who they are either and "don't give a damn" about their opinions either...that's the funniest part of that post!

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

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Once again there are some people who want to turn these open forums into the MV hate forum only and attack anyone who says something that isn't similar to theirs.
This person is just a screenname changing, keyboard commando who wants to take all of their life frustrations out on those who Post comments here with opposing opinions.
How this person went from my post to the personal attack says more about the serious flaws in their character than it does about mine because I support a human beings legal rights which if they read my old posts they would know is the reason for my supporting his return to the NFL or playing football somewhere.
Mike Vick doesn't know who they are either and "don't give a damn" about their opinions either...that's the funniest part of that post!

What are the legal rights you support? I never read anything about having the right to return to a positon of notoriety as a convicted felon. Paying your debt to society allows you to move on not return. There is no legal right that guarantees you can do so.

New York wrote:

<quoted text>What are the legal rights you support? I never read anything about having the right to return to a positon of notoriety as a convicted felon. Paying your debt to society allows you to move on not return. There is no legal right that guarantees you can do so.

Hoping to catch the NAIVE as usual.
Ban Vick
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-nfl-for-m...

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

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Your assumptions are illogical. I make a statement about Vick playing football and you conclude that I kill dogs? That's just stupid. Nothing I've said can lead you to the conclusion. This doesn't even sound like you so just quit it. To answer your first question, I care about many things besides whether or not Vick plays football. Don't make assumptions without reason Barb.
I could conclude some things about you and dogs based on what you have said and say it "looks suspicious to me" but I haven't so don't do that with my statements either.
Not sure where you're coming from with this at all but if this is back to the old crap then there's nothing left for us to say.

Dowhat, if Jeffrey Dahmer were the most talented football player in the world I would not be able to watch him play without remembering what he did. Same with Dennis Rader the BTK killer. DMX would make my blood chill if I had to watch him do anything. I could go on and on with these criminals and how it would ruin any enjoyment I might have of watching any sports team these guys might play on.
I'm sure you're going to say that these guys aren't Michael Vick with his talent. But my point is....how can you possibly fully enjoy watching Vick play football again knowing full well what pain and agony he inflicted on those dogs? How can you enjoy watching him play the same as you did before without thinking of him bodyslamming a dog into the ground over and over again until death is a relief for the dog? How can you watch Vick dazzle the fans without thinking about a dog being beaten to death with a bat? Can you watch Vick take a drink of water without thinking about him holding a pit bulls head under water to drown it while the poor thing struggles desperately for several minutes to get away? And when Vick is making one of his sudden runs down the field will it remind you of a dog having a live electric wire stuck up its azz after being wet down then shaking violently as it dies from the shock? What about Vick on the field will prod your memory of the hanging of his dogs, or the starving them to death? Or do you not care? When Vick is in the middle of a play and being tackled by those big guys on the field will it remind you that he enjoyed watching dogs tear each other to bits in a dogfighting pit?
How can you possibly fully enjoy watching Vick play football again without remembering all these things Dowhat? I know I can't.

In some cases Barb, entire communities need empathy classes!

Denise wrote:

In some cases Barb, entire communities need empathy classes!

You're so right. I actually worked with educated professionals who had no respect for animals at all. A Registered ER Nurse once told me she got tired of her little dog and drove it out in the country and just dropped it off. I was totally shocked that someone with her education and knowledge and in this day and age could actually treat an animal in that manner. I could just imagine that poor little dog in a panic chasing her car desperately trying to catch up then being left on the side of the road to fend for itself. That image will follow me for life.