Gay marriage foes mobilize for ban in California

Sounds like Micheal needs to get a life, instead of tell others how to live theirs.

Remember 'Rob San Diego',Michael has every right
to his opinion!Maybe you should move to some country like Iraq or Iran and see what and how they treat you.More than likely,you would never be seen again,once they figured you out.
Don in New Mexico

triggerfish wrote:

Homosexuality is wrong, period! All this rationalization, "being fair", it doesn't harm anyone, what people do behind closed doors is private and does not affect others is all a lie! Homosexuals advertise far too much. They do not keep it private, so that argument is a moot point.
Biologically our sexual organs are NOT made for functions that are opposite from which they are made.
The anus is made to eliminate waste, not be a receptical for semen. Feces and sperm are not made for each other and produce nothing good.
I could site Biblical passages that I strongly believe are very valid, but you have heard all those before and will disobey them anyway. The biological aspect may give pause to think, sadly it will not change anyones behavior.

You make a lot of assumptions.

1. The topic is same-sex marriage, not sexual activities. Whose business is it which type of sexual activity a couple choose?

2. About half of same sex couples are women. I'm not sure they do much anal sex.

3. Not all homosexual men enjoy anal sex. Some prefer oral sex.

4. Many heterosexual couples enjoy anal sex.

As for the biblical passages you could cite, I could cite biblical passages that prohibit married couples from having sex during a woman's menstrual period and for a full week afterward. I could cite biblical passages that prohibit planting cucumbers between your rows of tomato plants. I could cite biblical passages that prohibit wearing garments made of 40% silk and 60% cotton.

So what?

The majority of people believe its wrong just look at the polls!The people have spoken!!

The proponents of Prop 8 are trying to sell this assault on the fundamental rights of Lesbians and Gays in California as somehow being "pro-marriage and children" and hopefully the majority of voters aren't going to buy into that fraud. No so-called traditional marriage that is failing will ever be saved by denying the right of same-sex couples to marry and how this actually helps any child is really beyond me. The reality is that this measure will only hurt the relationships of same-sex couples by forcing them into second class status and hurt the children of these couples by denying their parents the right to marry. So just how pro-marriage and children have these people deluded themselves that this really is? The pamphlets talked about in the article proclaim that the state should be doing more to encourage families to stay together, but there seems to be absolutely nothing in this particular measure to accomplish that goal. The real truth behind Prop. 8 is that it is motivated by at best intolerance of others who are not like themselves or at worst, out and out bigotry against Lesbians and Gays. Why else propose a constitutional amendment to strip an exsisting right from a group that you are not a part of?

According to Frank Schubert,'Yes on 8' campaign manager, the mobilization of LDS (Mormon) volunteers could save his campaign up to $26 million in costs related to micro-targeting persuadable voters.

Micro-Targeting Mormons:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/24/6...

So much for campaign finance rules.

triggerfish wrote:

Homosexuality is wrong, period! All this rationalization, "being fair", it doesn't harm anyone, what people do behind closed doors is private and does not affect others is all a lie! Homosexuals advertise far too much. They do not keep it private, so that argument is a moot point.
Biologically our sexual organs are NOT made for functions that are opposite from which they are made.
The anus is made to eliminate waste, not be a receptical for semen. Feces and sperm are not made for each other and produce nothing good.
I could site Biblical passages that I strongly believe are very valid, but you have heard all those before and will disobey them anyway. The biological aspect may give pause to think, sadly it will not change anyones behavior.

Why then would you believe tha tgay people alone should not behave in a way that is natural and normal to our biology, but that we, alone, should ONLY behave in ways that are unnatural to us?

Are you one of those who believes that God wants gay people to deny how he made us, pretend to be straight, and marry people we can never truly love for the sole purpose of bringing children into such a toxic environment?

Or even that your God creates people hardwired to behave in ways that he condemns? Twisted god, there. Quite the little joker.

I've never understood the idiocy of these beliefs.

Oh, point of info, I've never engaged in anal sex, but from their comments, most of my straight friends have. They seem to enjoy it for some reason.

And most are church go-ers, too. Go figure.

triggerfish wrote:

Homosexuality is wrong, period!...
I could site Biblical passages that I strongly believe are very valid, but you have heard all those before and will disobey them anyway. The biological aspect may give pause to think, sadly it will not change anyones behavior.

So, this is really just a religious opinion, right? If people get married in a civil ceremony or in a religious setting that approves same-sex marriages, again, what business is it of yours?

imenuroom wrote:

The majority of people believe its wrong just look at the polls!The people have spoken!!

That would have been true of slavery in 1789. It would have been true of laws prohibiting racial intermarriage in 1930.

Social attitudes change over time.

tigerfish wrote:

Heterosexuality is wrong, period! All this rationalization, "being fair", it doesn't harm anyone, what people do behind closed doors is private and does not affect others is all a lie! Heterosexuals advertise far too much. They do not keep it private, so that argument is a moot point...

Somebody's train of thought has obviously jumped the tracks. If you had only done it once, but twice, would seem to indicate you've got more than a few hang-ups about sex.

The reality that you don't want to face is that homosexuality, is perfectly normal and natural for those of us who are homosexual. Our sexual orientation, just as with your's (I'm presuming you're heterosexual given your earlier posts, but with this one there seems to be some subconcious conflict going on) is a product of biological and genetic factors that serve an evolutionary purpose in the survival of the human species. What you clearly don't understand is that the vast majority of us who are openly homosexual live normal, happy and healthy lives. It's the bizarre voyeuristic habits of people like you constantly imagining us naked and engaging in sexual acts that's a really big part of the problem of being able to engage in a rational civil discussion of the real issues involved here. To put it it to you bluntly, keep your dirty little mind out of our bedrooms and we'll be able to talk things out.

Gay marriage is pro-family, since many gay couples have children. As a society we ought to support stable families.

Either the state should get out of the marriage business entirely - make them all civil unions - or allow gay marriage.

Churches are free to recognize whichever marriages they choose.

Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one!

Rick in Kansas wrote:

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Somebody's train of thought has obviously jumped the tracks. If you had only done it once, but twice, would seem to indicate you've got more than a few hang-ups about sex.
The reality that you don't want to face is that homosexuality, is perfectly normal and natural for those of us who are homosexual. Our sexual orientation, just as with your's (I'm presuming you're heterosexual given your earlier posts, but with this one there seems to be some subconcious conflict going on) is a product of biological and genetic factors that serve an evolutionary purpose in the survival of the human species. What you clearly don't understand is that the vast majority of us who are openly homosexual live normal, happy and healthy lives. It's the bizarre voyeuristic habits of people like you constantly imagining us naked and engaging in sexual acts that's a really big part of the problem of being able to engage in a rational civil discussion of the real issues involved here. To put it it to you bluntly, keep your dirty little mind out of our bedrooms and we'll be able to talk things out.

Read the 2 posts carefully, Rick.

tigerfish wrote:

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Read the 2 posts carefully, Rick.

An unmentionable social disease has rotted his mind. But its ok because it went away...

In the end. You know when you pass away and move on. Does that gay couple that lives next door affect your quality of life. NO! Does it affect how you go shopping,eat dinner,dress,walk out your door? NO. Does it affect the way you mow your lawn,drink your beer,have sex with your loved one. NO.
End the end when you pass away. Your life is only what you make it. If you want it to be full of hate and discontent for others so be it.
Everyone has the right to there way of life. If you want to live with a same sex partner. Go for it. If you want to live with opposits then go for it.
I have no right to tell you how to live your life. Just like the next person has no right to tell me how to live mine.
OH but its a bible that says so. Ok. So a book tells me what I should and shouldn't do. A book that has changed over time. That was written by people who want to push there ways onto everyone else. I guess I should go write a book and tell everyone they are to live this way and only this way or you go down. Its the samething.
I can name it.."This is the way you are to live. You have no choices"

News flash. Everyone has the right to choice who they live with. No matter who you are. No matter what a book says. And guess what. Its not going to change. Learn to deal with changes and life will be a much better place for yourself and others who are NOT just like you.

tigerfish wrote:

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Read the 2 posts carefully, Rick.

I did and the question is did you? This is exactly how you began the post I was replying to:

"Heterosexuality is wrong, period! All this rationalization, "being fair", it doesn't harm anyone, what people do behind closed doors is private and does not affect others is all a lie! Heterosexuals advertise far too much. They do not keep it private, so that argument is a moot point."

Is there anything else?

Rick in Kansas wrote:

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Somebody's train of thought has obviously jumped the tracks. If you had only done it once, but twice, would seem to indicate you've got more than a few hang-ups about sex.
The reality that you don't want to face is that homosexuality, is perfectly normal and natural for those of us who are homosexual. Our sexual orientation, just as with your's (I'm presuming you're heterosexual given your earlier posts, but with this one there seems to be some subconcious conflict going on) is a product of biological and genetic factors that serve an evolutionary purpose in the survival of the human species. What you clearly don't understand is that the vast majority of us who are openly homosexual live normal, happy and healthy lives. It's the bizarre voyeuristic habits of people like you constantly imagining us naked and engaging in sexual acts that's a really big part of the problem of being able to engage in a rational civil discussion of the real issues involved here. To put it it to you bluntly, keep your dirty little mind out of our bedrooms and we'll be able to talk things out.

Your post is awesome - very intelligent.

GODLOVESGAYS wrote:

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Your post is awesome - very intelligent.

Thanks....

Rick:

The first post said "homosexuality". The second said "heterosexuality".

tigerfish wrote:

Rick:
The first post said "homosexuality". The second said "heterosexuality".

I noticed that too....

Publius wrote:

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You make a lot of assumptions.
1. The topic is same-sex marriage, not sexual activities. Whose business is it which type of sexual activity a couple choose?
2. About half of same sex couples are women. I'm not sure they do much anal sex.
3. Not all homosexual men enjoy anal sex. Some prefer oral sex.
4. Many heterosexual couples enjoy anal sex.
As for the biblical passages you could cite, I could cite biblical passages that prohibit married couples from having sex during a woman's menstrual period and for a full week afterward. I could cite biblical passages that prohibit planting cucumbers between your rows of tomato plants. I could cite biblical passages that prohibit wearing garments made of 40% silk and 60% cotton.
So what?

They use strap on "d" stupid