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Indigenious Spirit

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#177
Aug 15, 2008
 
Calling you names was to "mock" your wall comment. If you want to speak of "broad swathe" then just build a wall. Simple is as simple does.

It is complicated to the average "American" I understand. It's about taxes and gangs. You're threatened and scared. On top of it, I'm sure you feel a bit Superior to all those "Illegal Immigrants". Why not kill them right?

I've got room to speak. I don't think strong arm policy and wall are solutions for humans. Maybe dogs.

I suppose your cultural background does not include immigrants?
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It is not redneck to want to have a controlled border. I am all for people coming here legally, who have followed the proper procedures and for businesses to be held accountable for paying taxes on their workers, providing medical care so the public doesn't have to, etc. The current system does not work. We have criminals reentering within days of deportation. We have exploitation of labor. We have exploitation of public services. We have a school system that cannot keep up with the students who are not English speakers. We have knee jerk liberals defending those who break our laws, driving without licenses and insurance, etc. We have knee jerk Republicans who don't want employer sanctions. The wall is the only way to create a legal flow that takes into account the financial and societal realities of the immigration situation. The USA cannot be expected to feed and clothe all of Latin America's impoverished, nor should those people be exploited by big business. Ask yourself if the gang bangers in the latin american community are better off than if they had been raised in their home country? They are not. Many are victims theselves of domestic violence, alcohol and drug abuse, etc. Many will spend years in prison. Your desire to paint this in a broad swathe with name calling shows you really don't know very much about the situation as a whole. It is not as black and white as you would like to believe.
Indigenious Spirit

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#178
Aug 15, 2008
 
"Free Health Care"?????? Do you think we're in Canada?

Foreign invaders don't drain our Treasury. Bottom line is that you vote away your tax money. You spend it to fight Mexicans, Native Americans, and anybody that's not "AMERICAN W.A.S.P.". Most folks are so brainwashed and narrow minded that have no clue they are against people of another Culture and Race. It's natural to be offended by someone who is different than you. I honestly see people are against Mexicans no matter what the issue.
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It's not about superiority or ethnicity. How about an unequal burden to our nation's EXPENSES.
Americans no longer want to foot the bill so that foreign invaders can take advantage of free education, free health care etc.
They hit our social services heavily and it's draining our treasury!
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#179
Aug 15, 2008
 
Juan Camaney wrote:
"Invaded", your ****! How many freaking times have U.S. law enforcement officers crossed into Mexico supposedly by mistake? Wow, 4 soldiers for 10 minutes, sounds like a full scale invasion to me!!! Run for the hills!!!
Dumb xenophobe
"The document also states that between 1996 and September 30, 2006 there were 253 confirmed incursions into the United States by Mexican government personnel. "

"MEXICAN MILITARY ENCOUNTER (ARMED/INTENTIONAL) EL PASO – FORT HANCOCK STATION – At 2 P.M. on January 3, 2006,[Troopers] attempted to apprehend three vehicles believed to be smuggling contraband on I-10…As the vehicles approached the border,[Troopers] stated that a Mexican Military Humvee armed with a .50 caliber weapon and several soldiers were seen assisting smugglers return to Mexico…"

Thu, 06/26/2008 - 12:11 — Judicial Watch Blog
"In one of the most disturbing Mexican government incursions into the U.S., three members of Mexico’s army conducted a home invasion and assassination operation in Arizona this week that killed one person and littered a neighborhood with gunfire.

Phoenix police say the Mexican military officers were hired by one of that country’s renowned drug cartels to carry out the deadly operation. The three invaders were dressed in military tactical gear and were armed with AR-15 assault rifles. They clearly had military training and the one Mexican soldier who was captured said the gang was completely prepared to ambush Phoenix police."

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-r...

"sounds like a full scale invasion to me!!! Run for the hills!!!"

Nah, its no big deal...BTW assclown...you have FAILED
Think Again

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Aug 15, 2008
 
Indigenious Spirit wrote:
"Free Health Care"?????? Do you think we're in Canada?
Foreign invaders don't drain our Treasury. Bottom line is that you vote away your tax money. You spend it to fight Mexicans, Native Americans, and anybody that's not "AMERICAN W.A.S.P.". Most folks are so brainwashed and narrow minded that have no clue they are against people of another Culture and Race. It's natural to be offended by someone who is different than you. I honestly see people are against Mexicans no matter what the issue.
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It's appears you prefer to use racial epithets but please don't try and make this a race issue.

It's an economic issue.

What politician is going to suggest taking away social programs for the poor? That's just political suicide!

Here's a little history of the FREE HEALTH CARE taking place in the US.

Congress passed EMTALA in 1986 to provide uninsured people, regardless of citizenship, with medical care in hospital emergency rooms, including delivery costs for illegal alien mothers and their “anchor” babies. The law, however, has remained an unfunded mandate — authorizing healthcare but failing to come through with federal funding. As a result, hospitals and doctors must bear the costs of treatment to uninsured illegal aliens.

Hospitals are declaring bankruptcy and closing their doors because of the federal healthcare laws.

Don't overlook the welfare money being dolled out as well.

Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA). One section of PRWORA, the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), replaced the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), in effect since the Social Security Act of 1935. Despite President Bill Clinton’s promise to “end welfare as we know it,”

PRWORA is just another congressional giveaway to illegal aliens who also receive assistance from SSI (supplemental security income), food stamps, and WCI (women, children, infants) benefits.

Obviously foreigners have been flocking to these free services. The US Supreme Court has also decided that no K - 12 illegal will be denied public education.

Americans are finally putting pressure on their elected officials to address this problem. The immigration reform bill died in congress last year. And according to the Center for Immigration Studies the number of illegals are down 11% since Aug 2007. Enforcement (raids) and a down turn in the economy have 1.2 illegals leaving the US. No deportation, they're leaving on their own!

So maybe immigration enforcement is the answer to curbing the flow of tax dollars being handed out so freely!
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#183
Aug 17, 2008
 
Indigenious Spirit wrote:
"Free Health Care"?????? Do you think we're in Canada?
Foreign invaders don't drain our Treasury. Bottom line is that you vote away your tax money. You spend it to fight Mexicans, Native Americans, and anybody that's not "AMERICAN W.A.S.P.". Most folks are so brainwashed and narrow minded that have no clue they are against people of another Culture and Race. It's natural to be offended by someone who is different than you. I honestly see people are against Mexicans no matter what the issue.
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There you go, jumping to conclusions. My entire family are immigrants. AND I worked for years helping RESPONSIBLE and deserving immigrants get status. That does not mean I don't think we should build a wall. I realize there are logistical concerns, such as the environment, cost and enforcement, but believe me responsible immigrants want responsible immigration policy. You need to open your mind a little.
Indigenious Spirit

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#185
Aug 18, 2008
 
Let's get to the point of this "racial" issue. This article is about Mexican border patrol that "found themselves" in Arizona while they were AT WORK!!! There happened not to be a line to distinguish our countries. All of a sudden this is an immigration issue. No, it's not. It's an incident, not an issue. I thought it was funny.

Of course all these proud, hard working "Americans" just start crying around about "IMMIGRANTS".

It's straight PROPAGANDA just like Hitler used against the Jews! It's a form of prejudice and ignorance. Your point is so moot that you blame "Mexican Immigrants" for financial shortfalls. Hello. DID I NOT MENTION THAT OUR COUNTRY VOTES AWAY OUR MONEY???!!!??? That's my point exactly. You just re-enforced that with all your policy knowledge. It's like people take it "Personal" that policies are not perfect and don't leave us American citizens with the BEST LIFE EVER!

Why are you looking at these people and their families like they are taking something away from you? Do you need food? Are you hungry right now? Do you need water? Are you thirsty? Come on now......
Think Again wrote:
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It's appears you prefer to use racial epithets but please don't try and make this a race issue.
It's an economic issue.
What politician is going to suggest taking away social programs for the poor? That's just political suicide!
Here's a little history of the FREE HEALTH CARE taking place in the US.
Congress passed EMTALA in 1986 to provide uninsured people, regardless of citizenship, with medical care in hospital emergency rooms, including delivery costs for illegal alien mothers and their “anchor” babies. The law, however, has remained an unfunded mandate — authorizing healthcare but failing to come through with federal funding. As a result, hospitals and doctors must bear the costs of treatment to uninsured illegal aliens.
Hospitals are declaring bankruptcy and closing their doors because of the federal healthcare laws.
Don't overlook the welfare money being dolled out as well.
Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA). One section of PRWORA, the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), replaced the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), in effect since the Social Security Act of 1935. Despite President Bill Clinton’s promise to “end welfare as we know it,”
PRWORA is just another congressional giveaway to illegal aliens who also receive assistance from SSI (supplemental security income), food stamps, and WCI (women, children, infants) benefits.
Obviously foreigners have been flocking to these free services. The US Supreme Court has also decided that no K - 12 illegal will be denied public education.
Americans are finally putting pressure on their elected officials to address this problem. The immigration reform bill died in congress last year. And according to the Center for Immigration Studies the number of illegals are down 11% since Aug 2007. Enforcement (raids) and a down turn in the economy have 1.2 illegals leaving the US. No deportation, they're leaving on their own!
So maybe immigration enforcement is the answer to curbing the flow of tax dollars being handed out so freely!
Indigenious Spirit

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#188
Aug 18, 2008
 
Well, maybe you didn't catch it but I WAS SUGGESTING that you DID INFACT come from a family of immigrants. Unless your Full Blooded Native American which I didn't get that from you.

I'm glad you "worked for years helping RESPONSIBLE and deserving immigrants". I just wanted to throw salt on your comments and open your eyes to what you put out there. I like to point out when "Americans" are too ethnocentric. Whatever the disposition you claim to have towards people of a different culture, I hope you pull back and look at the fact that you made a comment on "Immigration" when that was not the issue. Do you see that? This article was about the Mexican Border Patrol on the wrong side of the fence chasing after someone.
Mad Housewife wrote:
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There you go, jumping to conclusions. My entire family are immigrants. AND I worked for years helping RESPONSIBLE and deserving immigrants get status. That does not mean I don't think we should build a wall. I realize there are logistical concerns, such as the environment, cost and enforcement, but believe me responsible immigrants want responsible immigration policy. You need to open your mind a little.
Bill

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Aug 18, 2008
 
Indigenious Spirit wrote:
Let's get to the point of this "racial" issue. This article is about Mexican border patrol that "found themselves" in Arizona while they were AT WORK!!! There happened not to be a line to distinguish our countries. All of a sudden this is an immigration issue. No, it's not. It's an incident, not an issue. I thought it was funny.
Of course all these proud, hard working "Americans" just start crying around about "IMMIGRANTS".
It's straight PROPAGANDA just like Hitler used against the Jews! It's a form of prejudice and ignorance. Your point is so moot that you blame "Mexican Immigrants" for financial shortfalls. Hello. DID I NOT MENTION THAT OUR COUNTRY VOTES AWAY OUR MONEY???!!!??? That's my point exactly. You just re-enforced that with all your policy knowledge. It's like people take it "Personal" that policies are not perfect and don't leave us American citizens with the BEST LIFE EVER!
Why are you looking at these people and their families like they are taking something away from you? Do you need food? Are you hungry right now? Do you need water? Are you thirsty? Come on now......
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Hitler and Jews. Is that the best you can do? Blaah, Blaah, Blaah.
Indigenious Spirit

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Aug 18, 2008
 
Oh......I see.
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler and Jews. Is that the best you can do? Blaah, Blaah, Blaah.
Albert J Reine

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#201
Aug 18, 2008
 
Where is the Fence ? WE NEED TO HAVE: ARMED BORDER AGENTS WITH THe ORDERS: SHOOT TO KILL ! WE HAVE NO BORDER CONTROL; President Bush Where are you ? After being America President, you can run for: EL PRESENTIE OF MEXICO ! WHY IS IT THAT YOU KISS UP OR SHOULs I SAY KISS DOWN TO MEXICO, AFTER ALL ARIZONS, NEW MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, AND TEXAS IS PART OF USA, NOT MEXICO !
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#202
Aug 18, 2008
 
FUBAR wrote:
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Well you see Mr. Professor, when I was in the Army we got this training called land navigation. We are issue maps, compases and protractors, nowadays we even have hand held GPS that can tell you your location in grid cordinates at any given time, in case you can't comprehend how do do it manually. I kind of assumed other countries did this for there military and agents as well. Educate.
soo
If i has to go the army to educate.
I prefere to be an Ignorante.
you learn how to use a gun, use in your head
your army went to a lot of countrys and teach how torture is. did you now that.
you like e?
f...
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#203
Aug 18, 2008
 
Albert J Reine wrote:
Where is the Fence ? WE NEED TO HAVE: ARMED BORDER AGENTS WITH THe ORDERS: SHOOT TO KILL ! WE HAVE NO BORDER CONTROL; President Bush Where are you ? After being America President, you can run for: EL PRESENTIE OF MEXICO ! WHY IS IT THAT YOU KISS UP OR SHOULs I SAY KISS DOWN TO MEXICO, AFTER ALL ARIZONS, NEW MEXICO, CALIFORNIA, AND TEXAS IS PART OF USA, NOT MEXICO !
you looks like you will like to go and kill some ones but you not have balls.

also your name did not sound "american"

did you now "american" come from
SR. Americo Vespucio and the he speek SPANISH.

some people like you dont have respect for your past. American jaja you are not one
Tired of Stupids

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Aug 20, 2008
 
confuse wrote:
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you looks like you will like to go and kill some ones but you not have balls.
also your name did not sound "american"
did you now "american" come from
SR. Americo Vespucio and the he speek SPANISH.
some people like you dont have respect for your past. American jaja you are not one
Someone has been smoking the funny oregano again...
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