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Juan Camaney

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Aug 8, 2008
 
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My family is American Indian, Irish, and Indigenous Mexican, so what?
Who you agree with is certainly a cause to discount them, thanks for the heads up.
Oye Rogerg, mi bisabuelo fué comanchero. Quizá una de las cabelleras que guardaba fue de tu bisabuelo.
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Hey prison mouth and as ,we need you to shut up and take it like a girl.
You? You should speak from experience. So From PRISON BUTT TO PRISON MOUTH. Guess both orifices have been reamed and tapped huh.
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#926
Aug 8, 2008
 
Central Australia has alot of open space. Instead of sending them all back to Mexico, let's round them up and send them there.
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Central Australia has alot of open space. Instead of sending them all back to Mexico, let's round them up and send them there.
with so many of you posting here in the states, perhaps there's enough room to send them all to D00shistan too?

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What the F*#k is an indigenous Mexican you i-d-i-o-t? There is no such thing. You are Mexican period. So you were an illegal alien? That's hilarious, what a joke! You are one of those really, really poor and ignorant Mexicans who once they become legal decide to severe all ties to their roots so as to show everyone how "American" they really are. Well guess what "pinche pobre ignorante"? none of your new red neck friends will ever consider you one of them and you are no longer one of us. You are the saddest things possible, a human without roots, and with no pride in their background. Is that what you were doing in Nayarit, visiting your mamá? What does she do? Sell tacos at the mercado? How touching.
Loser!!!
Sorry, I don't go for that Mexican because your born or your parents were born here crap. The Mexican government goof's you into believing that so you can become slaves or cannon fodder for the rich upper class.
What is there to be proud of coming from a country that keeps the poor down while millionaires here reap the rewards off the backs of the people as they wave the flag and shout 'Viva Mexico" NO! Viva Zapata!
You've been goofed into taking pride that is for what? I am Proud in being an American, the pride has been earned not programed into my head, like you.
I hate illegals

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Aug 8, 2008
 
madge wrote:
To "I am right". I agree with you all the way. I live in a small community in Pa. It has been taken over by Mexicans. I am sick of all the illegals in our area. Once in a while they ship some out, but they keep on coming back. We have a much higher rate of crimes for the past 5 yrs now.
it's time to call your Senator....I live in a border city and we see illegals all the time but we have bleeding hearts here so nothing is being done they come over and use our conty hospitals and expectr us to foot the bill ..its sicking, I say kick them all back..
Danbury

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Immigrants are here to stay. Deal with it or leave.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
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Immigrants are here to stay. Deal with it or leave.
Yes, legal immigrants are here to stay.
They are, and always have been welcome in the USA.

ILLEGAL ALIENS however, are not welcome, and never will be.
The American people stopped 2 amnesty bills that had the support of many in congress, and a Republican president.

There will never be another amnesty, the American people wont allow it.
Deal with it or leave.
Danbury

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Yes, legal immigrants are here to stay.
They are, and always have been welcome in the USA.
ILLEGAL ALIENS however, are not welcome, and never will be.
The American people stopped 2 amnesty bills that had the support of many in congress, and a Republican president.
There will never be another amnesty, the American people wont allow it.
Deal with it or leave.
Illegal Immigrants are here to stay. We need them to pay for our social security that they'll never receive. Plus we need a little more diversity in the country. Lighten up, and get a cheap deal on your lawn maintenance like the rest of us citizens. Damn liberals.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
The mexican government doesn't hesitate to throw out illegals that seek to take advantage of them. The mexican government has more sense than the american government. Its sad the person died though. I hate murderers way more than I hate illegals. ONe is just an annoyance, The other is a savage who should be killed in an electric chair. As for homide itself, mexicans (mexico) have one of the highest homicide rates on our side of the world. South america is basically.... a more advanced version of africa with all the same problems as africa.(corruption, violence, crime etc). I think its time for mexicans to learn to develop their country so they wouldnt have to run away from it. Europeans have only been here a few hundred years and have created some of the greatest countries in the world (usa canada). Why cant mexicans duplicate that? They've been on this part of the earth for 1000s of years.
eject illegals

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#934
Aug 8, 2008
 
Yes, we need labor in this country. Yes, we are willing to hire outside the country. But with an open border, you basically let the worst criminals come across to America, while the people who obey the law and go through proper legal channels get punished as a result of the government trying to stem the tide of people.
Without a border, there is no country. Without a country, why am I paying taxes? Eh, who gives a damn about education, paved roads, drug enforcement, firefighters... let's ALL be illegals.

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Border Watcher wrote:
Most of the comments seem to be based in fear, hate, racism, misinformation and selective use of statistics. An enormous number of people crossing the border commit crimes. However a larger number (the majority) that cross simply want to work a job and live a dignified life. American foreign policy toward Mexico and a failed Mexican government have fueled the desperation that forces people to come north. An underfunded Border Patrol (voters please accept responsibility) and a desire for inexpensive goods and services have functioned as a de facto welcome matt on our southern border. Hardly anyone cared about the border issue 30 years ago. Before hiring aliens was a made a crime in the mid 80s ranch hands, farm workers and laborers crossed the border seasonally with little difficulty. The border problem was not caused by the majority of those crossing the border (read people who want to work) the problem was caused by the inaction and opportunism on this side of the border. If you want to stop the flow of illegal immigration you could start by not buying goods from WalMart (that company got busted for hiring subcontractors that paid sub-minimum wage to cleaning crews) or not staying at hotels. Or better yet move to the midwest and demand a job at one of the meat packing plants that hires mexican workers for slave wages working under slave conditions. I'm sure those upstanding white midwestern business owners will give you a job. For all you that live in CT - how about cleaning the houses and caring for the children of the wealthy who need a nanny or a gardener? I'm sure they'll pay you a fair upper middle class wage. Say $50,000 plus.
As usual we look at symptoms not causes in this country. Gas bills too high? Well I guess that couldn't have anything to to with the fact that you drive a Hummer that's never seen a dirt road or hauled around anything but your kids football gear. Same goes for the border. We can't have cheap labor to fuel the housing boom, the inexpensive produce, the low hotel room rates etc. AND get cheap goods that are assembled in Mexico by folks that don't make enough to feed their family AND seal the border AND make sure our suburban kids can get their marijuana.
The people that killed the illegal are murderers plain and simple. Killing people is a crime regardless of whether you **** the kid next door, a homeless person or an illegal alien. Any other conclusion is just hateful rationalization.
The most intelligent post so far on this forum.

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Bethel

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Rogerg wrote:
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Sorry, I don't go for that Mexican because your born or your parents were born here ****. The Mexican government goof's you into believing that so you can become **** or cannon fodder for the rich upper class.
What is there to be proud of coming from a country that keeps the poor down while millionaires here reap the rewards off the backs of the people as they wave the flag and shout 'Viva Mexico" NO! Viva Zapata!
You've been goofed into taking pride that is for what? I am Proud in being an American, the pride has been earned not programed into my head, like you.
If it's such an awful place, why do you live there, particularly if you're an American? I'll tell you why I think...I think it's because you were born in America and found out how cheap it is to retire to Mexico, that's why. Down there you don't have to pay any taxes and the living is easy. Judging from your ISP, I'm willing to bet you even live on a boat in Puerto Vallarta, so it's even cheaper. You get to sponge off both the Mexican and American governments that way.

If Mexico is such an awful place, stop taking from their economy and come back to the states and pay taxes like the rest of us.

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Bethel

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BlitzoRitz wrote:
The mexican government doesn't hesitate to throw out illegals that seek to take advantage of them. The mexican government has more sense than the american government. Its sad the person died though. I hate murderers way more than I hate illegals. ONe is just an annoyance, The other is a savage who should be killed in an electric chair. As for homide itself, mexicans (mexico) have one of the highest homicide rates on our side of the world. South america is basically.... a more advanced version of africa with all the same problems as africa.(corruption, violence, crime etc). I think its time for mexicans to learn to develop their country so they wouldnt have to run away from it. Europeans have only been here a few hundred years and have created some of the greatest countries in the world (usa canada). Why cant mexicans duplicate that? They've been on this part of the earth for 1000s of years.
Ridiculous. The old saw of saying one culture is better than another and basing that decision only on the supposedly objective values of one culture.

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If it's such an awful place, why do you live there, particularly if you're an American? I'll tell you why I think...I think it's because you were born in America and found out how cheap it is to retire to Mexico, that's why. Down there you don't have to pay any taxes and the living is easy. Judging from your ISP, I'm willing to bet you even live on a boat in Puerto Vallarta, so it's even cheaper. You get to sponge off both the Mexican and American governments that way.
If Mexico is such an awful place, stop taking from their economy and come back to the states and pay taxes like the rest of us.
And you hire cheap labor and are a traitor to the country you live in. On top of that your interest in my life is a little twisted, why don't you just hang out at public restrooms like the rest of the perverts. Oh, and your wrong again.
SIK OF DEZ ILLEGAL FOOLS

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#940
Aug 8, 2008
 
OH WELL CAN'T FEEL SORRY FOR SOMEONE WHO NEVER BELONGED HERE!!!IF HE WOULD HAVE STAYED WHERE HE BELONGED HE PROBABLY WOULD STILL BE ALIVE BUT NO HE HAD TO COME OVER TO OUR LAND AND FUCK WITH OUR MONEY. IF THESE PEOPLE WOULD COME OVER THE RIGHT WAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT ON OUR OWN!!!CONTINUE TO APPROACH THE US ILLEGALLY AND YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE TAKEN OUT BY THE REAL US CITIZENS!!!!!!

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And you hire cheap labor and are a traitor to the country you live in. On top of that your interest in my life is a little twisted, why don't you just hang out at public restrooms like the rest of the perverts. Oh, and your wrong again.
Never hired cheap labor in my life (never hired ANY labor) and am not a traitor. Where the hell did you get that from? And my interest in your life extends only in so far as to determine the level of your hypocrisy. I wasn't aware either that more could be determined about you from hanging out in public restrooms, but if you say so...
CT Citizen

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Most of the comments seem to be based in fear, hate, racism, misinformation and selective use of statistics. An enormous number of people crossing the border commit crimes. However a larger number (the majority) that cross simply want to work a job and live a dignified life. American foreign policy toward Mexico and a failed Mexican government have fueled the desperation that forces people to come north. An underfunded Border Patrol (voters please accept responsibility) and a desire for inexpensive goods and services have functioned as a de facto welcome matt on our southern border. Hardly anyone cared about the border issue 30 years ago. Before hiring aliens was a made a crime in the mid 80s ranch hands, farm workers and laborers crossed the border seasonally with little difficulty. The border problem was not caused by the majority of those crossing the border (read people who want to work) the problem was caused by the inaction and opportunism on this side of the border. If you want to stop the flow of illegal immigration you could start by not buying goods from WalMart (that company got busted for hiring subcontractors that paid sub-minimum wage to cleaning crews) or not staying at hotels. Or better yet move to the midwest and demand a job at one of the meat packing plants that hires mexican workers for slave wages working under slave conditions. I'm sure those upstanding white midwestern business owners will give you a job. For all you that live in CT - how about cleaning the houses and caring for the children of the wealthy who need a nanny or a gardener? I'm sure they'll pay you a fair upper middle class wage. Say $50,000 plus.
Talk about hateful rationalization. Another apologist, blaming America, American policy toward Mexico, rich Americans that are taking advantage of this cheap labor force and pretty much everything about Americans for the fact that illegal aliens are invading our country and they have every right to do so.
I am a white American who as worked in crappy manufacturing plants, doing mind numbing grunt work for peanuts.
I have worked as a janitor. I cleaned houses for several years and made a ton of money doing it (oh, those poor house cleaners).
While my lot in life has improved drastically in the last decade or so, I do my own yard work, clean my own house, raised my own children and I drive an economical 4 cylinder car. Many of my friends and co-workers do the same as I do, we get by on a lot less than $50,000 a year-and we live in CT.
A recent study showed that over 90% of Mexican nationals living illegally in the U.S. had jobs when they left Mexico. We also constantly hear about how much these people pay coyotes to sneak them into this country, so it would appear that many of these illegals weren't all that poor.
There is no rationalizing this murder. It was a vicious, seneless act and hopefully, the boys who committed this crime will get what they have coming to them.
But you can't put all the blame for illegal immigration on Americans. These aren't ignorant children sneaking across the border and willfully breaking our laws to enrich themselves. In this respect, they are just as much to blame as the greedy Americans who exploit them. There is accountablility on both sides.
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Juan Camaney wrote:
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What the F*#k is an indigenous Mexican you i-d-i-o-t? There is no such thing. You are Mexican period. So you were an illegal alien? That's hilarious, what a joke! You are one of those really, really poor and ignorant Mexicans who once they become legal decide to severe all ties to their roots so as to show everyone how "American" they really are. Well guess what "pinche pobre ignorante"? none of your new **** friends will ever consider you one of them and you are no longer one of us. You are the saddest things possible, a human without roots, and with no pride in their background. Is that what you were doing in Nayarit, visiting your mamá? What does she do? Sell tacos at the mercado? How touching.
Loser!!!
What a telling post. It demonstrates pretty clearly a major source of irritation that millions of Americans have with illegal immigration.

These are the first group of immigrants who want to come to and live in this country, while living as they did in their own. They don't want to adapt, they don't want to learn the language and they don't want to be American. Many of them, in fact, hate Americans.

Legal immigrants, on the other hand, want to adapt. They're making acommitment. I know people of Mexican, Brazilian and Equadorian birth, among others, who gave up their citizenship to their native countries when they became American citizens. Does this mean they don't have roots? That they have cut ties?

No, it means they have joined the legions of Americans who love America but who don't lose sight of their heritage. They and their ancestry becomes part of the American fabric. Their language becomes part of the American lexicon. Their holidays become our holidays. Americans are made up of just about every different country and culture in the world. That's what makes this country so great and why so many people want to be part of it. And we welcome those who come here legally.

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Never hired cheap labor in my life (never hired ANY labor) and am not a traitor. Where the hell did you get that from? And my interest in your life extends only in so far as to determine the level of your hypocrisy. I wasn't aware either that more could be determined about you from hanging out in public restrooms, but if you say so...
Your championing the criminal illegal aliens is a good indicator you have a dog in the race. You claim to be a citizen, yet you don't care about the future of America? Come on, what then motivates you? Christian charity? Guilt trip? your getting something out of your anti-American blather and you should be honest enough to admit it. Well?
My hypocrisy? Please enlighten me on that one. I am consistent in my attitude and how I express it, show me the error of my way's, or, get off my case. one or the other. To deviate from the subject constantly in order to make personal attacks to me and others on this forum is an indicator of your inability to argue in an intelligent way your points, what the hell is your point anyway?
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