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'It's just overwhelming for everybody'

A 15-month-old baby died after she was left inside a van for nearly three hours when her family returned home from church services Sunday afternoon.

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Aug 19, 2008
 
I am sorry to hear about the baby; as I am the father of 2 and can't imagine a worse feeling. However, this father should be charged with manslaughter, child abuse/neglect and gross negligence. How does anyone go 3 hrs and not check on their baby to make sure the baby is ok? How does the wife just assume that the baby is in her crib? How does a father leave the house with another person without kissing each of his children goodbye or checking in on them? As a parent your main responsibility is the protection of your children. Both of these parents failed to protect their child! How dare Mr. Bloss say it can happen to anyone and that these parents are close to perfect...are you kidding me? Accidents happen to everyone but this type of tragedy doesn't happen to RESPONSIBLE parents! Perfection? Not even close Mr. Bloss! The father feels "some guilt," that's great he feels some guilt...he should feel total guilt and should be ashamed to call himself anything except a murderer. Their other children should be placed in the custody of child services and a through investigation and prosecution should be begin immediately!
Voice of Reason

Red Lion, PA

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Aug 19, 2008
 
"He is really distraught and feels some guilt," Bloss said of the father.

Since it he wasn't responsible, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he only feels some guilt.
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#3
Aug 19, 2008
 
Unbelievable of York - how can you say that?? It CAN happen to anyone! Yes, I agree -- you should make sure all your children are safe -- but if the child is sleeping - from the car to the assumption that the child is in the crib - I wouldn't check on my 15 mo old after 3hrs -- it's a nap. As far as the father goes - I'm sure he feels an unbelievable amount of guilt - it was his father that made the statement of some guilt - I hope that this family is not charged in anyway - they are already being charged with the death of their child.- Unbelievable - I know it's hard to to accept this death as accidental but I truly believe that this is what it is -- and TRAGIC accident. I agree that 1 of these parents should have taken care the baby 1st and then the groceries but things do happen and this 1 was a tragic mistake. There is NO right answer for the outcome of this ....you are being WAAAAAYYYYYY to harsh. Put yourself in his shoes for just a moment! He didn't seek to "murder" his child - think back on your childrens lives -- you never made a "stupid" mistake - turning the corner in a store and you can find 1 or both....giving them food that was too hot for them to eat....thought the seatbelt was locked and it wasn't -- these are minor mistakes compared to the 1 this father made but...these are still mistakes. THIS father -- he didn't kill his child intentionally.......
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#4
Aug 19, 2008
 
Sorry -- you're right about who said the "some guilt" comment -- BUT - these are bloss' words -- I"M SURE - not the fathers....
Disgusted

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Aug 19, 2008
 
I'm tired of hearing this!! Doesn't anyone know where their kids are anymore?? These people need to be charged with something...all of them, Grandmothers included!! If you have a child in your care, that is your MAIN responsibility. If they start getting charged with something, maybe, just maybe they'll start paying attention. And no one should EVER rely on someone else to remember when a BABY is concerned! This just makes me sick!!!
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Aug 19, 2008
 
I whole heartedly agree UNBELIEVABLE. How does a mother not check on her baby in 3 hours. Something is sickening about this story. I think they are both guilty of child abuse,and manslaughter. As for Mr. Bloss, "Shame on you". Perfect Parents would mean both parents would have made sure the child was safe and had been checked on several times in that time frame.
Sad Titi

Camp Hill, PA

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#7
Aug 19, 2008
 
I blame BOTH PARENTS!!! That baby was 15 months old AND SLEEPING!!! The mother takes a 4, 5, 7, year olds in the house and leaves the baby? CARRY THE BABY, LET THE OTHER 3 WALK AND FOLLOW YOU IN! Than let the husband take the things in from the van...I HOPE THEY BOTH GET WHATS COMING TO THEM!! And to listen to the father in law speak and say that-THEY ARE CLOSE TO PERFECTION?? If that is perfection, THANK GOD I AM NO WHERE NEAR CLOSE TO IT!!!
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Scranton, PA

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#8
Aug 19, 2008
 
A tragedy no matter who it happens to, so obviously smypathy goes out where smypathy is due.

Does that I mean the error should be condoned? Absolutely not.

The hypocricy that is evident in York, will rear its ugly head soon I have a feeling.

If this had been a minority there would have already been charges, and little-to-no tone of smypathy in the story or on any message board.

So becuase this guy was a clergy member we should just all automatically go "oh well, it was an unfortunate accident."???

Riiiight, because clergy members aren't in the news frequently with charges of corruption.

Then again I shouldn't be surprised from a county with a borough led by a Clergy-Con.

Just sickens me that had this been a minority with less community standing, Yorkers would be ciricling the wagons with pitch forks and torches ready.

Again, I don't wish this incident upon anyone; and feel awful for the family. I'm just disgusted at the way this story would no doubt be viewed versus a similar incident with different circumstances.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
To clarify that comment was in NO WAY suggesting this was not an accident.

Obviously it was the saddest of all accidents.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
My heart and prayers go out to the Starr family. I pray to the LORD he will comfort the family during this difficult time and ask the LORD to welcome Cassie into his open arms and the Kingdom of Heaven.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
I don't understand why there would not have been some sort of conversation concerning the child in 3 hours time....is she still sleeping, is she in the crib...I mean if the oldest child had not realized she wasn't in the house, how long would it have been until she was discovered-a few more hours?
It's obvious and typical that this man's priorities are God and his congregation rather than his family.
This is a true tragedy and I can't imagine what they are feeling but in all reality they should be going thru hell right now, they are responsible for their childs death which was 100% avoidable with common sense!
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Aug 19, 2008
 
WELL IM A MOTHER AND I DO NOT CHECK IN MY CHILD IN 3 HRS. ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW HE NAPS FOR 3-4 HRS DURING THE DAY.
I DO NOT BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE CHARGED. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN AND YOU KNOW IF U WOULD OF HAPPENED TO YOU "UNBELIVEABLE"...U WOULD BE ASKIN FOR LORDS HELP TOO.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
This is really a pathetic story and I wish to reach out to the grieving parents that they should take heart and not be hard on themselves. The God whom they serve will comfort them.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
WOW> are you kidding? As a mother I did check on my children. I still check on my children through out the night. Call me over protective, but... that's just how a parent does. You need help. Accident? yeah maybe, but Neglect is the biggest here I'm afraid. Maybe you should ask for the lord's help too. I feel for the Star family. What an awful thing to happen, but the reality of it is, you dont go three hours not checking to see if the child made it in the house safely or ask questions.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
This story reminds me of how lucky I was. After a few six packs, I left each and everyone of my kids in the car as I laid fast asleep after downing the last can of Bud. When the neighbors called and woke me up and told me about the ugly kids crying in the back seat, I thanked my God. I am so sorry for this current family and wish them peace.
Good luck, God bless you,,,this bud's on me.
Voice of Reason

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Disgusted wrote:
I'm tired of hearing this!! Doesn't anyone know where their kids are anymore?? These people need to be charged with something...all of them, Grandmothers included!! If you have a child in your care, that is your MAIN responsibility. If they start getting charged with something, maybe, just maybe they'll start paying attention. And no one should EVER rely on someone else to remember when a BABY is concerned! This just makes me sick!!!
I'm tired of hearing so many people looking for vengence; charging people for exercising their stupidity. Where is the compassion?

I know what you'll say; what about the dead baby. This was not pre meditated nor an act of malice. Exactly what is the crime?
Saddened

Jersey City, NJ

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Disgusted wrote:
I'm tired of hearing this!! Doesn't anyone know where their kids are anymore?? These people need to be charged with something...all of them, Grandmothers included!! If you have a child in your care, that is your MAIN responsibility. If they start getting charged with something, maybe, just maybe they'll start paying attention. And no one should EVER rely on someone else to remember when a BABY is concerned! This just makes me sick!!!
I agree...there just is no way that the child should have been forgotten, particularly when someone reached in and took packages from the vehicle while the baby was still in there. There are too many people who have children and then become complacent, thinking someone else is doing what needs to be done -- and in this case, the poor child lost its life because no one -- NO ONE -- noticed that no one brought the baby in the house. Did the dad forget that the mom asked him to bring the baby? Sounds like if the baby's sleeping, everyone lets down their guard. As for the comment about NOT checking on a baby (from WHAT), those kids came from church. I, for one, would at least have checked to make sure the kid was comfortable in bed if they were dressed for church. I think most responsible parents would.

No one is being way too harsh. People need to be accountable for children who can't take care of themselves, and if they are dull enough not to remember a baby, there are some serious problems, here. Numerous kids, too much to manage...sounds like the parents are harried. Maybe they should have taken precautions to have only the number of kids they could handle. What a shame this is...and those parents need to be accountable, not pitied.For the people who want children so badly and can't have them, you have my sympathies -- I know that none of you would EVER squander a life.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
King of all Blacks wrote:
This story reminds me of how lucky I was. After a few six packs, I left each and everyone of my kids in the car as I laid fast asleep after downing the last can of Bud. When the neighbors called and woke me up and told me about the ugly kids crying in the back seat, I thanked my God. I am so sorry for this current family and wish them peace.
Good luck, God bless you,,,this bud's on me.
You were lucky; one of your kids dying in the car after you passed out from drinking a couple of six-packs would have been criminal neglect. I hope you and others were able to learn from this experience.

Personnally I would have thanked the neighbor and wondered why God didn't prevent this from happening in the first place. Oh well, I guess it's all in your perspective.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
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I'm tired of hearing so many people looking for vengence; charging people for exercising their stupidity. Where is the compassion?
I know what you'll say; what about the dead baby. This was not pre meditated nor an act of malice. Exactly what is the crime?
You are not a voice of reason...you are a prime example of why people don't take responsibility: there's always someone out there who claims to be "fair" that takes their side. The crime is that they had kids and were not effectively managing them -- and one died because of that. Neglect is a crime because it victimizes someone who can't care for him or herself.

What's the crime? Go and view that baby's body and think about how she died slowly from heat stroke -- FOR HOURS. THEN ask what the crime is.
LookyyyHeree

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Aug 19, 2008
 
I wouldnt go 1.5 hours without checking a baby...never mind 3. But things do happen..as at times the best of intentions falls through the cracks on a busy day... Tough call, easy to speculate if you werent there, but common sense wonders why not even a peak into the room over a 3 hour period.
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