A disturbing incident

He's probably some kind of a psycho "Deliverance" wannabe.

That is too bad- Good for you for brining this to the attentions of others.

The police in that jurisdiction should be HOUNDED for an explanation of their no-show. They install shot spotters in the city to be notified of gun shots. Guess gun shots in the southern part of York County don't counts. Figures. Was this an area where the citizens free load at taxpayers expense by calling the PA State Police, instead of having their own police department?

That is the Fine Yrok Barricks of the PSP! They oftentake hours to get to calls in Chanceford and Lower Chanceford Township! The operators at their station who do the dispatching are also not trained and are often rude.

There are so many holes in this person’s story, it probably did not happen. If it did happen, it certainly was not in the way it has been portrayed.

Lets here what the holes are!

If I were a PSP dispatcher, I wouldn't even answer calls from Chanceford/Lower Chancerford.
Let them get their OWN police force, like the MAJORITY of York County does. They have the influx of Marylanders into southern York County, get your own police force.

Did not happen wrote:

There are so many holes in this person’s story, it probably did not happen. If it did happen, it certainly was not in the way it has been portrayed.

How did you know there were so many holes in this persons (and 30 others)story? Do you live there? Were you there??? Or did the shotgun wielder brag to you about it?

nowaykay wrote:

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How did you know there were so many holes in this persons (and 30 others)story? Do you live there? Were you there??? Or did the shotgun wielder brag to you about it?

The answer to all of your questions is no. I just read the letter as it was written. The holes are there for everyone to see. According to the writer, 30 people did not see the man's face. Yet they are sure the shots came from him. Why did they wait until they returned to the station to call the police? There were 30 people and no one had a cell phone, interesting. Were there really 30 people on the tour? How does the writer know for sure the man was on land owned by the Society? The writer asks if the man was poaching, there is no season on varmints. Perhaps the reason the police did not respond was because it was a non issue. Something may have happened. All I am suggesting is that the incident may have been different than the writer has indicated.

Have to love these freeloading Boroughs & Townships who are too cheap to get their own police force & freeload off the state police & taxpayers.

Have you ever been where the Ma & Pa have their setup. It is in the bottom of a creek valley. I highly doubt there was even a cell signal available.

There is another article about this in todays paper which gives more details. It'll be interesting to see what turns up. However, I don't have much faith in the PA state police spending any amount of time on this since no one was hurt and no one can identify the shooter.

nowaykay wrote:

There is another article about this in todays paper which gives more details. It'll be interesting to see what turns up. However, I don't have much faith in the PA state police spending any amount of time on this since no one was hurt and no one can identify the shooter.

Yes another article in today's paper which is inconsistent with the writer's original letter to the editor. Could it be that Cheryl Williams overreacted to seeing someone with a shotgun? She also made derogatory comments to the man. Did she do that before or after he "fired" the shots? She claims she made the comments after he shot twice. If that is really true, then Cheryl Williams is not very smart. The "incident" took place over three weeks ago and the police have not yet spoken with other people on the train. The police also did not find any evidence of gunshots at the location or on the train. Ms. Williams has had her 15 minutes of fame and the National Railway Historical Society has had some publicity. At this point, the story does not seem to be credible. Let's see if any thing develops over the next few weeks.

I'd have to agree with "Did no Happen." Cheryl Williams story is starting to change. The fact that she decided to leave after what was a very traumatic event in her life without waiting for officers to arrive was odd. She made it sound like officers didn’t even arrive at all, when Sgt. Kelly stated they did arrive and searched the area for the shotgun, pellets and the mystery man. Also the fact she neglected to give a statement to police how many weeks after the fact??? The fact that she gave a statement saying that she made a sarcastic remark to a man who is supposedly shooting at her does not seem all that smart to me, if she was truly afraid for her life and the lives of the 30 others that were also aboard the train - BAD IDEA! Also, if she did not see the man, how was she certain that it was a shotgun going off? Did the pellets literally rain down on them, is that how she knew? I highly doubt that. I guarantee she was making an inference from a noise she heard and not actual facts. In the first letter she wrote she said, and I quote,“…he shot his shotgun three times at us, as pellets came raining down on about 30 of us.” But the statement she gave to the newspapers said “Williams said she could hear something -- maybe shotgun pellets -- tearing through the canopy of leaves above them.” The first article she was so certain, certain enough to make the remark. In my opinion Cheryl Williams should get her story straight (and keep it straight) prior to writing to the media and making a big stink about it like she has... We have yet to see anyone else who is complaining to the media about the experience.

Where are the other individuals who were on the train? And why haven't they come out yet?!

I can shed some light on the police response. The York Barracks of PSP on the norm has 4-5 troopers on duty per shift. They cover twelve townships plus eighty miles on interstate. The trooper who is assigned that particular part of the county often covers Chanceford, Lower Chanceford, Peachbottom, Fawn, and Hopewell Townships by himself so response times tend to be awhile and that is if he is not currently on a call. The reason it too an hour is according to Cheryl Williams they had left the area. The trooper more than likely went to Muddy Creek Forks first to look for a man with a gun not to where Williams had decided to call from at her leisure.
So please do not knock the PSP. They do the best they can with what they have especially when dealing with idiots like Cheryl Williams which is more common than one would think!!!

roscoe wrote:

I can shed some light on the police response. The York Barracks of PSP on the norm has 4-5 troopers on duty per shift. They cover twelve townships plus eighty miles on interstate. The trooper who is assigned that particular part of the county often covers Chanceford, Lower Chanceford, Peachbottom, Fawn, and Hopewell Townships by himself so response times tend to be awhile and that is if he is not currently on a call. The reason it too an hour is according to Cheryl Williams they had left the area. The trooper more than likely went to Muddy Creek Forks first to look for a man with a gun not to where Williams had decided to call from at her leisure.
So please do not knock the PSP. They do the best they can with what they have especially when dealing with idiots like Cheryl Williams which is more common than one would think!!!

Just to clarify. My comments in no way were intended to find fault with the PSP. I was attempting to point out that 3 weeks had passed and since no one else had apparently been contacted (or had come forward), the PSP probably believe this is a non issue.

roscoe wrote:

I can shed some light on the police response. The York Barracks of PSP on the norm has 4-5 troopers on duty per shift. They cover twelve townships plus eighty miles on interstate. The trooper who is assigned that particular part of the county often covers Chanceford, Lower Chanceford, Peachbottom, Fawn, and Hopewell Townships by himself so response times tend to be awhile and that is if he is not currently on a call. The reason it too an hour is according to Cheryl Williams they had left the area. The trooper more than likely went to Muddy Creek Forks first to look for a man with a gun not to where Williams had decided to call from at her leisure.
So please do not knock the PSP. They do the best they can with what they have especially when dealing with idiots like Cheryl Williams which is more common than one would think!!!

Thank you "roscoe" for shedding light on the realities of the PSP and how short-staffed they are. I'm sure that if there were more people working that night Cheryl Williams would not have written such an accusing letter to the newspaper, and this situation would not be getting all the hype that it is. It's just ironic with all the discrepencies she has in he initial story and her recent interview with the newspaper. She just wants her 15 minutes of fame and she's getting it.

I think she might be the trooper who covers all those townships at once and is getting mad for having to do all that driving. Maybe she wants to have more help. LOL

Explanation to all: The local police (2 officers) were on vacation that week. It's OBVIOUS York CITY police were scheduled to patrol and respond to any incidents in the area. I guess they couldn't respond since their gunshot detector couldn't reach down to that neck of the woods. If the report had included a "snapping tutrle" then I am sure response time would have been cut down by at least 2-3 minutes.

York City Police to respond to that area. Just stay in your tornado shelter and trying saving your homesick a$$. You have no idea what you are talking about. Make yourself some "snapping TUTRLE
"soop" while you are there.