5-year-old boy killed by pit bull in Texas

Ace wrote:

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Funny- after each attack by a pit bull the owner always says their dog was a sweetheart right up to when they became a killer dog.
That kind of proves the sketchy nature of the breed.

I call BS.

This may be the case in some instances, but how many of those dogs were rescue animals that were raised by someone other than the said current owner?
Each case is different, but it’s all in the way the dog was raised!!! Simple as that.

NO
BREED
IS
INHERAINTLY
VISCIOUS

AND

THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF TO BACK UP THAT FAULSE TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

PERIOD

worried wrote:

My eldest child(19 yrs old)just got a pit bull puppy.We love it even though we have had it only a few months.After reading this article and all the comments we are considering getting rid of it.I don't know if i could live with myself if it hurt anyone,i don't know what to do.Maybe our vet or any vet out there has an opinion ,if so please voice up.

You choose faimly or dog at some point that dog will bite thats why there banned in oc md to may bad thing happen to small children are around most people learn the hard why you can raise them right but one wrong move anyone makes and you will not beable to stop them.

Ace wrote:

There was a guy on CNN last night talking about politics and he used the expression that- "like a dog, you either have the killer instinct or you don't!"
That shows why a lot of people buy pit bulls.
They are lookin for that "killer instinct" and settle for nothing less.
The breeders just supply what the market wants.

OK
Lets go with the whole “it’s the breed argument” for a second here.
All human infants are potential murderers and rapists. But does that make the human race inherently viscous? No it comes down to how the child is raised and to the environment it is placed in. I am sure you have heard of Nature vs. Nurture.
Intellectuals tend to side with the nurture side of this argument. It should also be noted that the Nazis strongly sided with the nature side of this argument and I am sure you also know how that turned out.

Fact: People are afraid of what they do not understand.
Hopefully most will do some research, find the scientific facts and make an educated decision based on said facts.(In this biased media fear-based society however, this is probably just a pipe dream.)

It is also clear to me that you do not understand the nature of animals (specifically dogs.)
If you did you would understand the real problem that these breeds are facing.
Unfortunately, people sometimes choose to live their lives behind a steel blanket of fear.
In doing so you will never learn the true loving nature of these animals.

It is my opinion that you are missing out on a lot and for that I feel sorry for you.
But it is not my place to tell you how to live your life. Please do not tell me how to live my life. Please understand that I am a responsible owner that knows more about these dogs than the average Fox news audience.

Hate the DEED not the BREED.

bites wrote:

<quoted text>You choose faimly or dog at some point that dog will bite...

No proof you can "make up" supports this stupid comment.

1 percent of any breed makes up the number that will attack.

Did pit bull have lipstick ?

I feel so sorry for the child, family and for the dog. Sometimes it isn't the animal's fault though. Children who don't know any better tease the animals relentlessly until the animal fights back. I learned the hard way as a child (about 5 years of age) that teasing a dog gets you bitten and hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

These posts are sort of making me upset here.
I used to own 3 pits and none of them were "evil".
They loved to be around kids and other pets.
I did not get them as pups either. I rescued them from a shelter.

YZF-R6 wrote:

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OK
Lets go with the whole “it’s the breed argument” for a second here.
All human infants are potential murderers and rapists. But does that make the human race inherently viscous? No it comes down to how the child is raised and to the environment it is placed in. I am sure you have heard of Nature vs. Nurture.
Intellectuals tend to side with the nurture side of this argument. It should also be noted that the Nazis strongly sided with the nature side of this argument and I am sure you also know how that turned out.
Fact: People are afraid of what they do not understand.
Hopefully most will do some research, find the scientific facts and make an educated decision based on said facts.(In this biased media fear-based society however, this is probably just a pipe dream.)
It is also clear to me that you do not understand the nature of animals (specifically dogs.)
If you did you would understand the real problem that these breeds are facing.
Unfortunately, people sometimes choose to live their lives behind a steel blanket of fear.
In doing so you will never learn the true loving nature of these animals.
It is my opinion that you are missing out on a lot and for that I feel sorry for you.
But it is not my place to tell you how to live your life. Please do not tell me how to live my life. Please understand that I am a responsible owner that knows more about these dogs than the average Fox news audience.
Hate the DEED not the BREED.

spoken like a true pit bull owner, they will defend the breed even as they stand over their own dead child's body .

YZF-R6 wrote:

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OK
Lets go with the whole “it’s the breed argument” for a second here.
All human infants are potential murderers and rapists. But does that make the human race inherently viscous?

Humans don't come in different breeds.
Humans aren't genetically tailored to exhibit deadly fighting skills.
Hitler tried that for his master race and it didn't work.
Dogs are a different story. They have been genetically altered for hundreds of years to exhibit particular traits, and pit bulls were created exa ctlyfor their so-named purpose.
That is to fight to the death in a pit.
This isn't rocket science.

bob wrote:

<quoted text>spoken like a true pit bull owner, they will defend the breed even as they stand over their own dead child's body .

So you want me to throw out scientific FACT and throw out the many many years of personal experience I have around these dogs and instead believe a lie?
I have been around dogs including the breeds called pit bulls most of my life (None of the dogs I’ve had the pleasure to meet have ever attacked anyone.) I have even rescued dogs off of the street.
I am defending documented scientific fact backed by personal experience. You are making a judgment based on lies, rumors and fear.

People like you want me to believe that my dog is a monster.
That while he is laying on his belly wagging his tail letting the neighbor’s 1lb Chihuahua jump all over him, he is waiting to miraculously snap and become a killer.
While he plays with the neighbor’s children and swims in the pool he is planning his murderous rampage. Well while you live you life with fear and ignorance, I will be playing with my family and our loving dog.

All dog breeds can attack. All dogs can kill. Dog attacks occur for a few reasons. The way they were raised, the “rules” they learned, the environment they were placed in are all reasons a dog may attack. The dogs breed is never the reason and the people that believe that it is probably still think the earth is flat. Guess what… scientific fact proves that its not. Do some flipin’ research!!!! If you have the intelligence and can read, the facts are out there and guess what. They are on my side. But if you would rather be spoon-fed lies from CNN and the rest of the media complex. It’s still a free country and I guess you still have the right to be an idiot your whole life.

Ace wrote:

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Humans don't come in different breeds.
Humans aren't genetically tailored to exhibit deadly fighting skills.
Hitler tried that for his master race and it didn't work.
Dogs are a different story. They have been genetically altered for hundreds of years to exhibit particular traits, and pit bulls were created exa ctlyfor their so-named purpose.
That is to fight to the death in a pit.
This isn't rocket science.

No it's not rocket science so it should be simple for you to understand.

FACT: No breed is born vicious. It’s a learned behavior!!!!!!!!!!

In fact the “fighting dogs” and “bull baiting dogs” you speak of were all raised and conditioned to be non aggressive toward humans. Do you think the handler wanted to get bit? Research Research Research.

People raise these dogs improperly and guess what the dog bites.
Raise any dog breed right and you won’t have a problem. That is this entire issue here!!!!

Do I have to post page after page of documented facts before you people open your eyes to the real problem? It probably wouldn’t do any good though. People like you are close-minded and tend to blindly believe the lies and rumors the idiot box throws out at them.

Through the years I've seen 5 different breeds ruined by backyard puppy mills: cocker spaniels, german shepherds, dobbies, rotties, and pits. Greedy breeders who know little cross breed for aggression etc. and wind-up with unstable animals that lead to many attacks and much bad press. This tends to grow worse to the point of people not purchasing these flawed animals. After this I'd GUESS it takes about 15 to 20 years for the bread to return to near normal. Ask any large PROFESSIONAL breeder (not the lady with the poodles down the street) and, with adjustments for the times, you'll receive confirmation.

If anyone buys one of these "out-of-balance" dogs there is a good possibility of violence; there is NO "training cure" that can prevent these animals from snapping when conditions are "right" (wrong).

YZF-R6 wrote:

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So you want me to throw out scientific FACT... I am defending documented scientific fact...

Care to give at least one example of your irrefutable scientific evidence?
I'm deathly curious.
I suspect you are bloviating...

YZF-R6 wrote:

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Do I have to post page after page of documented facts before you people open your eyes to the real problem?

Well- maybe at least one example of your "documented facts" might be a start.
What, exactly, are "documenmted facts"?

(Sarcasm on)
Ok. I will change my view and turn my back on science, facts and personal experience.

Lets move forward and keep up your way of thinking.

At midyear 2007 there were 4,618 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,747 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 773 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males.
Lets make it illegal to have or own a black or Hispanic child!!! Screw all that contribute to society and live good lives. It’s too much of a risk. Because of bad parenting and a poor environment some of them may turn out bad. Like all other babies they have to potential to grow up and kill.
Come on Ace, Dennis and Bob we had better act fast. BAN THEM. BAN THEM.

(Back to reality)
You people are amazing idiots.

YZF-R6 wrote:

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No it's not rocket science so it should be simple for you to understand.
FACT: No breed is born vicious. It’s a learned behavior!!!!!!!!!!

Uhh- I think you are forgetting the years of genetic manipulation that has happened with pits.
That would mean they are BORN with dispositions pre-determined by genetics.
Research, research, research...

In England, the Stafford is known by the affectionate nickname, "The Children's Nursemaid" or "The Nanny Dog." Their tolerance of, and affection for, children is well known.
And has been a family dog of choice for many years..
Where are all the ded kids?

Documented Characteristics and Temperament:
Although individual differences in personality exist, there are some things that you can expect to find in the personality. They are tough, courageous, tenacious, stubborn, curious, people-loving and comfort-loving, protective, intelligent, active, quick and agile. They are extremely "oral" youngsters and need a safe alternative to furniture, toys and clothing for their busy jaws. They love to play tug-of-war and to roughhouse, but YOU must set the rules and YOU must be the boss. This is not a difficult task if you begin when she is a puppy.

TESTING:
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
AFGHAN HOUND 161 116 45 72.0%
AIREDALE TERRIER 98 75 23 76.5%
AKBASH DOG 15 13 2 86.7%
AKITA 489 362 127 74.0%
ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG 6 4 2 66.7%
ALASKAN MALAMUTE 188 159 29 84.6%
AMERICAN BULLDOG 151 127 24 84.1%
AMERICAN ESKIMO 79 65 14 82.3%
AMERICAN FOXHOUND 2 2 0 100.0%
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 586 494 92 84.3%
AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER 548 457 91 83.4%
ATTS Breed Statistics
as of December 2007
Temperament tests.

The American Temperament Testing Society shows a pass percentage of 84.3% for American Pit Bull Terrier, a 0.2% more passing rate then the commonly considered 'family dogs' such as Golder retreviers,However, a firm, even hand and early training are strongly recommended for this breed. Like all terriers they generally have a lot of energy and high prey drive; they need exercise and stimulation in order to channel their energy properly and not become frustrated, bored, and destructive.
APBTs often display dog aggression, especially towards unfamiliar dogs of the same sex or level of assertiveness. Early socialization and good training can mean that many individuals of the breed may not display this. However, with proper training and socialization, pit bulls are not aggressive and can even make excellent service animals. Pit bulls have been used for everything from cheering up hospital patients, search and rescue, and even sniffing drugs for the DEA.

hate the deed not the breed, if anyone is responsible it is the dogs owners. i realize pits can be very dangerous. however i have a few in my life who are just lovers. if a dog regardless of the breed is showing signs of agression do us all a favor and PUT THE DOG DOWN NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO DIE BECAUSE OF YOUR NEGLIGENCE! GOD BLESS THAT BOY AND HIS FAMILY

YZF-R6 wrote:

In England, the Stafford is known by the affectionate nickname, "The Children's Nursemaid" or "The Nanny Dog." Their tolerance of, and affection for, children is well known.
And has been a family dog of choice for many years..
Where are all the ded kids?

News-flash!
In England they don't have this massive sub-culture of cretins who breed pits as macho killers.
Like I just told you- you are forgetting the years of breeding -in America- of pit bulls as killer attack dogs for fighting and for "strutting" down the Boulevard.
When one buys a pit one is buying all that history as well.
Genetics matter, slow-poke. It's time you realized that.