5-year-old boy killed by pit bull in Texas

YZF-R6 wrote:

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... and hide behind your gun, because that make you EXTRA TOUGH.

Newsflash- self-defense is not called "hiding behind a gun".

Ace wrote:

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Newsflash- self-defense is not called "hiding behind a gun".

His quote says that if a dog sets foot on his property he would shoot it.....
that sound like self defense to you, or killing an innocent animal?

And my point was to show him how hypocritical he was being by saying that I am trying to look tough because I ride a motorcycle, and have a dog, while he is flaunting the fact that he is a big man with a gun, that will shoot to kill a trespassing animal.

"Shoot that dog pa' its peeing on our crop."

oooh im tough, i need a gun to protect myself from the mean ol' doggie thats sniffing around my meth lab.

give me a break.

to the user who goes by the name "kick the dog"....

You're an idiot. You obviously don't know anything about dog breeds.

Your username alone makes me see red.

It's not the breed of dog that we should be blaming, but the moronic, in-bred people who breed them improperly and raise them improperly all in the name of "cool".

Dog Lover wrote:

to the user who goes by the name "kick the dog"....
You're an idiot. You obviously don't know anything about dog breeds.
Your username alone makes me see red.
It's not the breed of dog that we should be blaming, but the moronic, in-bred people who breed them improperly and raise them improperly all in the name of "cool".

+1

Thank You, dog lover.

At least I know someone out there other than myself has a decent brain in their head.

It surprises me that some of these people can even use a computer.

pit bulls were bred to take down bulls plz dont tell me thats not vicous

...Don't punish the breed.. I LOVE MY PITTS. First to all the simple minded morons posting I promiss you to every negative remark you will see 10 in defense its beyond words that a child died I agree that should never have happened. In reguards to pitts I have 3 wonderful loving dogs that so happen to be just what you read about abused neglected trained to fight dogs. The difference is mine never reached that level they were succesfully rescued and trained to be the best dogs I ever had. Loyal and aim to please most likely more educated than most of you...Its not the breed its what you teach it punish the owners........

To you pit owners- your dogs bring fear to other people.
Knowing that, don't blame them for negative remarks.
You know when you choose a pit that you are choosing a controversial breed that may cause you and others tragedy.
Be ready for the back-lash from all those people you are frightening.
It comes with the territory.
Quit blaming the victims.

YZF-R6 wrote:

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His quote says that if a dog sets foot on his property he would shoot it.....
that sound like self defense to you, or killing an innocent animal?
And my point was to show him how hypocritical he was being by saying that I am trying to look tough because I ride a motorcycle, and have a dog, while he is flaunting the fact that he is a big man with a gun, that will shoot to kill a trespassing animal.
"Shoot that dog pa' its peeing on our crop."
oooh im tough, i need a gun to protect myself from the mean ol' doggie thats sniffing around my meth lab.
give me a break.

On the other hand- if a scary dog enters your yard and you have a child, then maybe shooting it has more to do with being a good parent than hating dogs.
Your meth lab reference applies a lot more to pit owners than angry neighbors.

On the radio a few months ago, they went over a list of the most aggressive dog breeds...the dachsund was the most aggressive, I wonder how many people have been bitten by these "hot dogs"...chihuahua was #2...pug was #3...rottweiler made #6 on the list. It's how they're treated and trained, they aren't born killers.

Pit Bulls are predictable, this is why if you own pit bulls, you need to understand and respect this breed. They were bred to not give up when fighting, and this trait extends to play, which is why Pit Bulls are NOT reccomended to be in a household with other breeds of dogs, small children or cats. They are not vicious, they are just powerful and tenacious. Many attacks can be attributed to playfulness, but because of the nature of their playfulness and the powerfulness of the breed, they end up killing or maiming whatever they play with. This is why people who have pitbulls must understand and respect the breed of dog they own, otherwise they have no business having a pit bull. It's tragic this little boy died, but it is not the dog's fault it's a dog, it's the owner's fualt for not taking the proper measures to ensure the safety of the child.

Duh wrote:

On the radio a few months ago, they went over a list of the most aggressive dog breeds...the dachsund was the most aggressive, I wonder how many people have been bitten by these "hot dogs"...chihuahua was #2...pug was #3...rottweiler made #6 on the list. It's how they're treated and trained, they aren't born killers.

This thread isn't about dogs that bite. It's about dogs that attack to kill.
Do yourself a favor and google- never mind, here's a link- and see the facts that the rest of us are seeing.
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%20198...

Look at what breeds kill when they bite.
Facts are invaluable.

Actuallly... Pit Bulls are hybrids of the fiercest bulldogs with the fastest terriers (small game hunters). The reason why the American Pit Bull Terrier is so fierce, when compared to its old world ancestor, is because the dogs were used as entertainment. They were "pit"ted against other ferocious dogs and they were truly the most fierce dog in the ring.

I have a beautiful 4 1/2 year old Pit and he was voted most favorite dog in all 3 of his classes he enrolled in. The training and the supervision are the tell all factors. If you raise a kid to be honry, arrogant and mean ,well that is what you are going to get in the end. An angry, hostile and mean child. The same thing goes for dogs. I have never been fearful of dogs, only the lack of parenting and supervision that the owner may not have provided.

It's funny that I have grown up around many aggressive dog breeds, but the only dog I have ever been bit by was ...a...cocker spaniel. We should eliminate all cocker spaniels, right?

Punish the deed not the breed. Accountability is what is missing here and I think it is missing in a lot of people's lives today.

Stereotyping will get you nowhere but in a mess. When you assume, well you know the rest. This is eerily similar to racial profiling, but we all know that racial profiling is legit, accurate and dependable?

Yeah friggin right!

Mike Woodlee wrote:

Actuallly... It's funny that I have grown up around many aggressive dog breeds, but the only dog I have ever been bit by was ...a...cocker spaniel. We should eliminate all cocker spaniels, right?

This thread isn't about dogs that bite. It's about dogs that attack to kill.
Do yourself a favor and google- never mind, here's a link- and see the facts that the rest of us are seeing.
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%20198 ...

They only attack because they have not provided the dog with adequate supervision, the culprit is the owner not the dog!

"Keep your dog under the control of a responsible person. Don't allow your child to take the family dog for a walk until he is mentally and physically mature enough and understands leash laws and the dog's behavior. "

I have read some facts and the truth remains. Directly from the link you suggested!

It's an argument that can go in circles forever, promote responsibility and accountability, instead of stereotyping and assuming. You can't change things from the outside, you must get inside to help!

Ban the dog? You people are a bunch of racists! This is the Latino's breed of dog. If the whites had this breed of dog, none of you would be complaining!

How about if people just take responsbility for their pets and children...everyone will be safe that way...you can't kill off a breed of dogs just because some irresponsible people bring children into the world. I am sure that dog didn't wake up that morning and think "I really want to kill a 5 year old today"...

Sorry Ace, I will never see that getting rid of a certain dog breed will ever stop child fatalities from dog bites...there will always be a dog breed that nobody likes.

Actually, the Dog's roots are in Europe. The Latino compliment is totally uneducated.
Not being responsible and the lack of accountability transcends across all cultures. The truth is there is more in some cultures than others, but you can't really say that either without making a streotypical jump, which is not necessary.

Elimination of breeds, I think I've heard something similar to that before... and nobody likes talking about genocide, annialation or ethnic cleansing. The analogy is there to be made.

pits are bred to not be human aggressive, a man bitter is result of poor breeding and poor socialization. They are bred to fight other dogs, not attack humans. They are very loyal dogs, thats why they fight to the death, because they want to satisfy their owner.
Most dogs are labeled as pits on the news when its just a short haired mix breed.
search up michael vick dogs on youtube, see how some of the fighting dogs turned out to be good pets.
Id be more afraid of a 80 lb german shepard than a 50 lb standard american pit bull. you dont see pits as police dogs, and guard dogs cause they are human friendly, and do not attack with such force as other dogs. They also do not have the strongest bite, the basketball sized head of a mastiff can chomp you much harder.
accidents like this happen becuase of the shitty owners. All those hating on the breed, go buy your yorkie another outfit rather then spread your ignorance

id be more afraid of a 80 lb german shepard than a 50 lb pit. i own a pit myself, they need to be socialized well to prevent dog aggression. Human aggresion is the result of poor backyard breeding and poor socialization. you dont see pits used as protection dogs, and police dogs. they are too human friendly, a malinois could take a person down much better than a pit. They dont have "lock jaw", a mastiff would give you a much harder bite than a 65 lb max standard american pit bull.
youtube michael vicks dogs, see how good they turned out.
dogs should never be unsupervised with a kid, its the owners fault.

sorry for repost =)