Mormon church enters Calif. gay marriage fight

UnbelievableFL wrote:

<quoted text>So you want to ignore the children being raised by same-sex couples and what would be best for them.
Well, at least your honest Duce. Uncaring and selfish, but finally honest.

I don't want deviant gays to redefine traditional marriage or family values and shove it down my throat -- NOT on my watch!

Idiots wrote:

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Knowing the yes people think this way have absolutly convinced me to vote No on Prop. 8. Thank you for your comments and proving there is no valid reason not to vote NO on 8.

So it is alright to start the indoctrination of children by forcing the tax payer to fund a "field trip" the wedding of a homosexual, instead of a museum?

chief22 wrote:

Sorry I read you wrong blue, but there are numerous costs involved:
-Costs to employers who will in-turn reduce everyone elses benifits,
-there is the rewrite of tax codes and everything that goes along with that, you think that is free?
These are a couple of the most substantial that I can think of, but there are more to be sure.

So why do hetero partners deserve the additional costs but homosexual partners don't? Have you read the Constitution lately?

I don't have kids but my tax money goes to schools. Think I mind? No. I'm not selfish. Did Jesus teach you to be selfish?

BlueLamp wrote:

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So what are these additional costs? Even Chief says there aren't any. Are you just a liar? You claim to be a bible believer...do you know what it says about liars?
Revelation 21:8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters AND ALL LIARS—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

So what in Duce's statement is a lie, he is expressing his own feelings, that just so happen to cooencide with many others, what makes that a lie? Just because you don't believe it don't make it a lie

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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I don't want deviant gays to redefine traditional marriage or family values and shove it down my throat -- NOT on my watch!

I with you duce!

Start the countdown until someone proposes to a farm animal.

chief22 wrote:

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So what in Duce's statement is a lie, he is expressing his own feelings, that just so happen to cooencide with many others, what makes that a lie? Just because you don't believe it don't make it a lie

True or false: The recognition of same sex marriage will require you to sodomize your wife.

That is one of Duce's many statements. It is not a statement of opinion and it is not true. If will not call it a lie, then you are lying too.

chief22 wrote:

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So what in Duce's statement is a lie, he is expressing his own feelings, that just so happen to cooencide with many others, what makes that a lie? Just because you don't believe it don't make it a lie

No. He's obviously not being honest about why this issue is so important to him or why he's here. Then he's going back and forth calling a homosexual terrible things for lying about his sexuality yet he's insinuating at the same time that sexuality is fluid and can be changed. Dishonest.

hanoverguy wrote:

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I with you duce!
Start the countdown until someone proposes to a farm animal.

Get a life and maybe read a book on human sexuality, idiot.

hanoverguy wrote:

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I with you duce!
Start the countdown until someone proposes to a farm animal.

Farm animals cannot consent. Stop raping the sheep!!

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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I don't want deviant gays to redefine traditional marriage or family values and shove it down my throat -- NOT on my watch!

No one is taking away "traditional marriage". Traditional (I assume you mean opposite-sex) couples will still be able to marry.

And no one is trying to shove anything down your throat. That's just your fantasy. Or is it a nightmare from what happened to you in prison? So hard to tell, but regardless, it's not reality. Get over it!

And unless you plan to become President, we're not really under your watch. More of your foolish rantings.

I want to marry my 8 wives. Because, traditional marriage said I could.

I want black people to not get any rights in marriage, BECAUSE TRADITION TELLS ME IT OK.

Tradition, Tradition, Tradition. Tradition.

UnbelievableFL wrote:

<quoted text>No one is taking away "traditional marriage". Traditional (I assume you mean opposite-sex) couples will still be able to marry.
And no one is trying to shove anything down your throat. That's just your fantasy. Or is it a nightmare from what happened to you in prison? So hard to tell, but regardless, it's not reality. Get over it!
And unless you plan to become President, we're not really under your watch. More of your foolish rantings.

Are you really that stupid? All this activist gay crap is about changing the definition for traditional marriage -- You Brainless Bozo!

flyboy wrote:

I want to marry my 8 wives. Because, traditional marriage said I could.
I want black people to not get any rights in marriage, BECAUSE TRADITION TELLS ME IT OK.
Tradition, Tradition, Tradition. Tradition.

Yeah, and why should my wife be treated as a person. Under traditional marriage she is my property. Tradition, tradition, tradition.
Seems like old white christian males are always spouting off about doing things traditionally -- I guess when you traditionally have all the power, tradition is the way to keep it. Right, T-Warriors?

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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Are you really that stupid? All this activist gay crap is about changing the definition for traditional marriage -- You Brainless Bozo!

Wow, you're losing it Duce.

Again, no one is taking away "traditional" marriage. Opposite-sex couples are still able to marry and have children and even teach their children bigotry. You've lost nothing Duce.

Well, your senses...but no rights.

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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Did you think that making new gay legislation was free -- You brainless Bozo!

The only true economic cost lies in the court challenges that result from the haters and fear-mongers.

Allowing same-sex marriages actually brings in money from licenses; Tourist dollars from people that visit simply in order to get married here; for a start.

And, Duce, you've really got to choke down the vitriol. It only makes people think you are a crazed one-off. The name-calling does nothing for your stance.

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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Are you really that stupid? All this activist gay crap is about changing the definition for traditional marriage -- You Brainless Bozo!

Yeah, all about tradition. Totally.(polygamy, woman and blacks treated like slaves). Tradition is GREAT!!!!!111111!!!!!!1.

Opponents Of Traditional Marriage Engage In Dirty Tricks


October 15, 2008

Contact: Chip White/Sonja Eddings Brown

SACRAMENTO—October 15—With less than three weeks remaining before election day, the No on 8 campaign is getting desperate as they trail in the polls and in fundraising. As if violently attacking a Yes on 8 volunteer in Modesto on Sunday were not bad enough, No on 8 forces have been intimidating Yes on 8 volunteers and stealing yard signs.

ORANGE COUNTY

“Caught in the act.” A Prop. 8 opponent from San Francisco was caught in the act when she ripped up a Yes on 8 sign right in front of the Irvine Republican Party campaign office on Sunday. Office workers made a citizen’s arrest. The woman was charged with misdemeanor vandalism and will appear in court.
On Saturday, several dozen campaign signs—including about a dozen Yes on 8 signs—were along Mouton Parkway near Crown Valley Parkway. On Sunday, the Yes on 8 signs were gone, but the other signs were still standing.
A Prop. 8 opponent from Mission Viejo called the Yes on 8 campaign threatening to remove any Yes on 8 sign he sees.
A pregnant woman was “flipped off” because she had a Yes on 8 bumper sticker on her car.
A Huntington Beach woman had a yard sign stolen on Monday night.
San Clemente, Laguna Niguel, and San Juan Capistrano volunteers report stolen Yes on 8 signs. Signs posted in the morning were missing by evening.

BlueLamp wrote:

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No. He's obviously not being honest about why this issue is so important to him or why he's here. Then he's going back and forth calling a homosexual terrible things for lying about his sexuality yet he's insinuating at the same time that sexuality is fluid and can be changed. Dishonest.

You are a mind reader now? I would never presume anything about anyone I don't know, unless they spell it out here, calling some one a lier over something that you cannot prove is being a little disengenuous.

Duce Bigelow wrote:

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I don't want deviant gays to redefine traditional marriage or family values and shove it down my throat -- NOT on my watch!

I'm not going to stand by and see a black man marry one of our white woman..Not on my watch..
Sound familiar people???

Vote no on 8

swath wrote:

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Farm animals cannot consent. Stop raping the sheep!!

but that second or third wife can