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Mt. Shasta glaciers keep growing, despite warming

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Aug 5, 2008
 
When “global warming” is the topic, it is actually ocean warming that is happening because Oceans comprise 2/3 of the earth’s surface. The warmer the ocean water, the higher moister content of the air above that ocean can hold. Since the laws of thermal dynamics dictate that warmer air will seek cooler air, the cooler air will be somewhere on the land masses. That is because the ocean is a flat surface & all the air is equal with no variation except in the changes of latitudes. The rotation of the earth (Coriolis Effect) forces the air to track at a deflection, to the right in the northern hemisphere & to the left in the southern.

When the humid air hits a land mass, it will seek to cool or equalize by seeking cooler areas such as higher altitudes. The air being forced does to the air behind it trying to seek its way, will cause instability of air interaction & will cause extreme thunder storms. This air that has higher than normal moister, will feed glaciers.

The reason ice sheets & glaciers are melting is that water beneath the surface are warmer too. It seeks to cool by current. The current will flow from the warmer climates to the higher latitudes & warming the ice sheet from below the water surface. A greater percentage of the ice sheet lay below the surface than above. The ice sheet is being warmed more by the flow of warmer water from lower latitudes than the warmer air above the surface.

Another gauge to global warming theory is to calculate the air humidity in the air today & compare the reading to past readings. If there is no change then global warming can be argued. Remember, the humidity has to be calculated with the air temperature as part of the formula.
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Timbo wrote:
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Which god am I trying to be acceptable to again? Hey if you want end of days we can put you all on an island and nuke it for you. All I ask is that you don't take the rest of us with you when drink the kool aid. Not cool.
And so you have one guy, and I have 99.999978 percent of he rest of the scientific community backing my arguments. Ill bet your proud of yourself for finding the .000022 percent who agree with you.
Did you get those statistics from Youtube or Huffington Post? Equally reliable sources for the brainwashed crowd.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
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Gravity's a theory. Go prove it wrong.
I don't have the wherewithall or the intelligence to disprove an evident existing condition. However, my common sense tells me that in this entire universe (not to mention any possible alternate universes) this condition could well be altered. I understand that you have a problem understanding anything that does not happen in your block, but rassle with it for a while nad let us know what you think(?)
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Number of days this July in Minneapolis with high temp below normal: 0.
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#627
Aug 5, 2008
 
willmar mn has a great wind turbine plan.

they want plan to build 2 wind turbines that will create a total of four megawatts(which is nothing for energy),operate 30 percent of the time and need a coal back up....

oh yea the cost, 6 million dollars
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Aug 5, 2008
 
wind turbines.....not a good plan

“Why so serious.”

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Aug 5, 2008
 
Just remember how beautiful planet Earth is. She ALWAYS finds a way to stabilize herself. I'm starting to think this whole global warming stuff is not all it's made out to be.
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Just remember how beautiful planet Earth is. She ALWAYS finds a way to stabilize herself. I'm starting to think this whole global warming stuff is not all it's made out to be.
Please.
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I get it.....

the earth warms and cools naturally.

geez but that involves no tax money or global warming funding
Garcirosky wrote:
Just remember how beautiful planet Earth is. She ALWAYS finds a way to stabilize herself. I'm starting to think this whole global warming stuff is not all it's made out to be.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Garcirosky wrote:
Just remember how beautiful planet Earth is. She ALWAYS finds a way to stabilize herself. I'm starting to think this whole global warming stuff is not all it's made out to be.
and we all lived happily- ever-after
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Number of days this July in Minneapolis with high temp below normal: 0.
moron of morons-

can't back this up to save his life....

go watch a Al Gore Fictional movie

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moron of morons-
can't back this up to save his life....
go watch a Al Gore Fictional movie
I'll just pick one idiotic response to this story among many. If any of the posters would have read the story, they would read that almost all the glaciers in the Cascades, Sierra Nevada, and in Canada are shrinking, and even disappearing. Scientists said this one anomaly is due to the warming temps creating a stronger moisture flow onto the highest reaches of the mountain. It doesn't refute global warming! The amount of ignorance in American blog sites is paralyzing. Read the article, brain-child.

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Please.
Perfect example is my hometown of El Paso. We were in the middle of a years-long drought until the floods of 2006. It cost the city a lot of money but it ended the drought. The planet will always find a way to replenish itself when it needs to. In due time, I think mother nature will reverse the damage we've inflicted upon throughout recent history.
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Some fevers kill the patient - then the body gets colder.

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t boner wrote:
I get it.....
the earth warms and cools naturally.
geez but that involves no tax money or global warming funding
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True that. I like your name.

“Las Cruces, not Santa Fe”

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Perfect example is my hometown of El Paso. We were in the middle of a years-long drought until the floods of 2006. It cost the city a lot of money but it ended the drought. The planet will always find a way to replenish itself when it needs to. In due time, I think mother nature will reverse the damage we've inflicted upon throughout recent history.
Aye, the earth will be just fine. Life will bounce back from the mass extinctions.

Aye, and letting nature handle things in her own way, like she did the dinosaurs, will result in balance. It's just hard on individual species, especially the less adaptable ones.

Surely we have nothing to lose by continuing to drastically alter the composition of our atmosphere. The most vociferous deniers of anthropocentric global warming say there's no way we can predict what the climate will do next. Somehow, they're fine with what is, at the very least, by their own admission, a tremendous gamble.

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Aye, the earth will be just fine. Life will bounce back from the mass extinctions.
Aye, and letting nature handle things in her own way, like she did the dinosaurs, will result in balance. It's just hard on individual species, especially the less adaptable ones.
Surely we have nothing to lose by continuing to drastically alter the composition of our atmosphere. The most vociferous deniers of anthropocentric global warming say there's no way we can predict what the climate will do next. Somehow, they're fine with what is, at the very least, by their own admission, a tremendous gamble.
If you truly wish to compare humans with dinosaurs then perhaps we should be extinct. We currently have the technological ability to live ANYWHERE on this planet including under water and at the north and south poles. Setting off every nuclear warhead currently in existence today could not wipe out the human race. All of this fear-mongering over a 1 degree change in surface temperature is only a means for the few to control the lives of the many.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
agreed-its all hysteria.

Thats how these liberal live their life.

Al Gore said three yrs the planet was headed for doomsday in ten yrs. Baloney, the latest figures show we have not warmed since 1998, Even entering a cooling period to some experts. Al Gore did not tell us that in his fictional movie.
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If you truly wish to compare humans with dinosaurs then perhaps we should be extinct. We currently have the technological ability to live ANYWHERE on this planet including under water and at the north and south poles. Setting off every nuclear warhead currently in existence today could not wipe out the human race. All of this fear-mongering over a 1 degree change in surface temperature is only a means for the few to control the lives of the many.
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Aye, the earth will be just fine. Life will bounce back from the mass extinctions.
Aye, and letting nature handle things in her own way, like she did the dinosaurs, will result in balance. It's just hard on individual species, especially the less adaptable ones.
Surely we have nothing to lose by continuing to drastically alter the composition of our atmosphere. The most vociferous deniers of anthropocentric global warming say there's no way we can predict what the climate will do next. Somehow, they're fine with what is, at the very least, by their own admission, a tremendous gamble.
I think we do know what will happen next, just not when. If nothing changes our orbital dynamics, we are headed for another ice age. We entered this inglacial about 14,000 years ago. It was interrupted by a meteor event that caused the Younger Dryas, not global, but impacted the northern hemisphere. Extinction of the mammouths.

The warmest point in this interglacial was achieved 9000 years ago. We have had cold and warm periods since then, but we have consistently been decreasing in temperature since that time.

The earth's orbital dynamics 9000 years ago, put us in a warm position. The earth's orbit was a close to circular as it gets. The earth's tilt was at its max, 24.5 and the wobble put the northern hemisphere closest to the sun in June. The earth's orbit has been elongating, the tilt decreasing, 23.5, and the wobble puts the northern hemisphere closest to the sun in January.

CO2, if man did not exist, 95% of the 382ppm of CO2 would still be in our atmosphere.
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Spoon and cherry wrote:
agreed-its all hysteria.
Thats how these liberal live their life.
Al Gore said three yrs the planet was headed for doomsday in ten yrs. Baloney, the latest figures show we have not warmed since 1998, Even entering a cooling period to some experts. Al Gore did not tell us that in his fictional movie.
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"The eight warmest years on record (since 1850) have all occurred since 1998, with the warmest year being 2005."

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basicinfo.ht...
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