Discrimination against gays unfair

cait wrote:

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I'm a married heterosexual woman, in case you didn't read my prof. Homosexuals don't need or want an audience, they just want fair treatment and equal rights under the law. Frankly, you're an idiot.

LuLu Ford wrote:

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You really drank some sour beer or something. Perhaps you never heard of the saying, "the best way to destroy your enemy is to make him your friend." We can't have dialog if hurl insults at one another. So what exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

cait wrote:

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None of your feckin' business, lulu.
He is an idiot, you just don't get it, yet.
*shrug*
Frankly, I don't care to make YOU my friend, or anyone else in here. I come in here because my real friends don't care to discuss these issues, so I find those that do. It means a lot to me, equal rights for everyone, and I don't care what you think about how or what I accomplish.
Okay, lulu?

cait wrote:

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None of your feckin' business, lulu.
He is an idiot, you just don't get it, yet.
*shrug*
Frankly, I don't care to make YOU my friend, or anyone else in here. I come in here because my real friends don't care to discuss these issues, so I find those that do. It means a lot to me, equal rights for everyone, and I don't care what you think about how or what I accomplish.
Okay, lulu?

Lisa wrote:

Discrimination against gays unfair, oh please give me a break. They're all weird and loud mouth crybabies. what they do in the bedroom shouldn't even be an issue for what they do in public. Anybody can have rights. Why do think they are so special? because they think they are gay.

Quest wrote:

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I think you are close, here. Behavior and orientation do not always follow. Behavior can change. Orientation cannot, at least not for most humans on the planet.
Having sex with the same sex does not necessarily mean you are gay. Having sex with the opposite sex goes not mean you are straight.
Orientation is about those innate attractions. Yes, sexual behavior in healthy humans does often fall into line with orientation, but not always.
Orientation is fixed. A straight person is always and only attracted to the opposite sex. A gay person is always and only attracted to the same sex.
Bi-sexual people are attracted to both genders, in varying amounts.
And each of these groups is capable of having sex with either gender, and of labeling themselves anything they wish.
It's not the sex acts that define the orientation, it's the innate attractions we are all born with.
And this makes it confusing. Do we believe the labels? How do we know?
We don't, not really. The easiest thing we can do in this life is accept the labels that others put on themselves, and deal with it.
The sex act itself is simply a physical thing--a feeling of physical pleasure is at the base of it. And it can be only that.
And we can make it more, as well.
At it's best, it became a connection between two joined souls. At it's worst, it can be a violent act of domination.
Orientation goes far beyond sex.
All this said, unless we want to hook everyone up to a few well-placed electrodes and test their "labels", all we can do is respect others, judge them by the way they treat others, and not by our lack of understanding of how they are hard-wired.
Life would be so much better for all of us if that were the norm.

LuLu Ford wrote:

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I think the person you are describing is a bisexual person. A truly heterosexual or homosexual person in not capable of finding themselves attracted to both sexes.

c3daddyo wrote:

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...All I can say about the house issue, is to put the deed into both of your names and then when you make a will, leave your half to the other one. Just something to think about!

devons wrote:

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It's not lofty at all. You raised some good points. If we don't try and eliminate anything that could cause people to convert to homosexuality we risk more and more people becoming homosexuals. Rather then attacking the homosexual and denying them rights we should actually be turning our attention to anything in our society which could cause someone to want to change their orientation. In that way we are working to save our species from extinction.
It would appear the biggest threat, at least in my mind, would be relationships. This is what I've learned from my friend. Just think how devastating a failed relationship can be to a person. The hurt could make someone want to be with their own sex, like my friend.

faith wrote:

Your Accountability to God
The Bible is clear: God does not approve of or condone homosexual practices. He also disapproves of people who “consent with those practicing them.”(Romans 1:32) And “marriage” cannot give homosexuality a cloak of respectability. God’s direction that “marriage be honorable among all” precludes homosexual unions, which he considers detestable.—Hebrews 13:4.

ltndncr59 wrote:

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You seem to be a fairly compassionate and intelligent person, but the above was a little harsh, I think. Especially since a deed and a will are just legal instruments that can, and have been, successfully challenged. So, of course can inheritance by a spousebe challenged, but it's much more difficult, and the courts are almost always wont to find in favor of the surviving spouse.
But it's not just about houses, and inheritance. What about social security? Taxes? Bringing suit on behalf of the deceased? And my pet peeve - FMLA. There are so many issues that could be solved for gay and lesbian families by simply repealing DOMA; these issues can NOT be resolved by legal means. Not that it is relevant to my life at the moment, but I'm sure there is no lawyer in the world that could draw up a contract that would give me immunity from testifying against my "domestic partner." That particular right is another that only comes with a marriage license.

LuLu Ford wrote:

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Are you a friend to anyone?

LuLu Ford wrote:

Always standing in judgment of other people must really suck!

Rose T-H wrote:

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Hey Lisa,
We do not THINK we are gay, WE know it.
I personaly do think that I am special. I am special to my fiancé, my family and my friends.
I personally am not looking for "SPECIAL" rights, just the same rights that you enjoy being a Citizen of this Great Country.
Blessed Be

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Lisa wrote:

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Nobody is born gay. If you are born in the U.S. you do have rights. what it the big deal?

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Lisa wrote:

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Nobody is born gay. If you are born in the U.S. you do have rights. what it the big deal?

devons wrote:

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Not smokin....just playing....;-)

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Lisa wrote:

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Nobody is born gay. If you are born in the U.S. you do have rights. what it the big deal?