Religious Americans: My faith isn't the only way

Brad wrote:

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Someone once said," if there is life out there, God put them there."
I think you may have been refering to me also. I had said on some topix somewhere, if life is an accident, how would it be on different planets? That would make an accident seem far-fetch.

steve-2304 wrote:

But I never hear a Christian calling out other, extremists Christians either. Can't have it both ways.

ByronMoreno wrote:

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During the Irish troubles, I heard religious leaders on both sides condemning the actions of the IRA and the UDF.

Allentown_Frank wrote:

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I always loved that term..."troubles".
Trouble is when you car won't start. When it starts, then explodes, you're pretty well beyond "trouble".

Fed Up in NM wrote:

I have never heard of anyone, least of all Christians, demanding that true Muslims stand up to their extremists.

Fed Up in NM wrote:

I do speak out against the extremists. For example, I do not agree with abortion, under most circumstances, but I would fight for a woman's right to choose.

Fed Up in NM wrote:

The more true followers there are that live by example, the better. That doesn't mean we should sit by, wringing our hands and crying about all the violence done in the name of religion. We do need to be actively opposed.

Out of curiosity, what do you think we should do? Seriously, if there is a way you think we can actively oppose them and stay true to our faith, I am interested in hearing it. Just may give it a try.

steve-2304 wrote:

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Seriously? I hear it ALL the time. Especially on some of these boards. And it's usually people of faith doing the demanding.
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Impressive, good for you. But you better watch it. You'll be accused of being a phony Christian by the "good" ones!
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I agree with you completely. And I don't have an easy answer for your question. Personally, I'm not one to blame the actions of a few on the perceived inaction of the many.

steve-2304 wrote:

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Seriously? I hear it ALL the time. Especially on some of these boards. And it's usually people of faith doing the demanding.
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Impressive, good for you. But you better watch it. You'll be accused of being a phony Christian by the "good" ones!
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I agree with you completely. And I don't have an easy answer for your question. Personally, I'm not one to blame the actions of a few on the perceived inaction of the many.

Brad wrote:

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What Mathew was saying there was do not be a "Christian" in public only, as in when people do bad things all week(lie, cheat, and steal), then pray, making sure someone hears them, in the hopes of looking good. Or simply, do not pray to look good.

Voice of Reason wrote:

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This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the majority of Christians; you just make it up as you go along. It says no such thing. What it does say is what Carrie's mom said.
The relationship between a person and his God is personal and private and the practice of it should not be on public display. Where did you get your spin, anyway? If you're going to follow the bible and if you believe the bible is awe inspired, then it says what it says and nothing more or less.
From Mathew 6:
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

brad wrote:

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It is as plain as day to me. The key word is "hypocrites".
Also, praying and spreading the news are two different things. Just standing up for my position here.

brad wrote:

Matthew 6
Giving to the Needy
1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
This is the preceding verses. Jesus is saying do not do things to impress men. Giving should be for God's glory, not ours. True giving is not a P.R. issue, but a caring heart issue. Same as praying, it is not for public Relations, and if you treat it as such, it is not true praying.
Again, Jesus is saying in these few verses not to give or pray for your own glory.
I can not explain this any further in my words, but rest assured, I am not convoluting the Bible for my own demands, but reading the Bible in context to see what it says. Does anybody else have something to add?

Allentown_Frank wrote:

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"So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."
-Bertrand Russell

Moronic Dems wrote:

What a bunch of stupid azzoles on page 131...

ByronMoreno wrote:

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From your own cite: "He surprised everyone (especially the farmers who’d carved them) by stating that certain boundary markers were actually anchor stones from the Ark."
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You'd have to ask them, but my assumption would be to test his claims. That's how science works.
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The seafloor lifts over time as continents move.
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For that to be believable, you'd have to tell us where that amount of water could come from and go to.
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Ever seen table magic? How does the orange get in the glass when it's less than a foot from you?

Pariah wrote:

<quoted text>...Where the water come from and where it went to. It never rained before the Flood...

Pariah wrote:

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I seen the pictures of an anchorstone(s), and being similar in size, and decipherable carvings left by pilgrimage during the christian era, would suggest more than "farmers" having anything to do with that part of it.
I wouldn't put stock in John Baumgardner's letter being how Dave Fasold's has a video of John stating that the scans were showing regular and not random findings of what John claimed were few and planted. Plus on July 31, 1986 Geophysical Survey Systems, Inc. certifies that: "Ronald E. Wyatt Has Completed A Training Course In The Theory And Practice Of Applying Subsurface Interface Radar Technology In Engineering and Geophysical Investigations".
But the sea floor of igneous rock is only found beneathe the geological looking boat? You can't see that as result of a Flood? Wyatt claims that the volcanic lava is responsible for the fossilization of the remains of Noah's ark. Every other igneous rock is moved away by lava flow & "mudslides" or erosion but the ones beneathe this is found?
Where the water come from and where it went to. It never rained before the Flood. Water came up from the deep. You can see impact craters and the mid-Atlantic ridge, but cannot fathom the force of the water being forced up from the deep, and returning to the deep as some gets frozen at the polar region to melt over time from the Ice Age and some are caught in the weather cycle that produces rain? Amazing how every culture will testify to the Flood legends, and the earth shows evidence of it, but evolution has put on dark glasses for everyone.
Misdirection... which is pretty much what evolution does.

Moronic Dems wrote:

What a bunch of stupid azzoles on page 131...