Steve McNair Found Dead - NewsChannel 5.com - Nashville, Tennessee

Prince Fanatic wrote:

I managed to find a video leak at http://leafpen.com/38890 though I did have to do a survey to make it work... but really, this is nuts.

what did this video leak say? i was not able to open this at work?

daddypops00 wrote:

Have been in law enforcement for over 30 yrs, and this McNair death, stinks to high heaven. Here's why.....A woman going to kill herself does not use a gun to the head...don't have the stats handy, but they show a very low amount of women shoot themselves....vanity or some such nonsense. Next, a bullet to each side of the head and 2 in the chest.....a wee bit of overkill, again, not a woman's way of doing things. Now, a total of 5 shots, where is the residue (only found a small trace on her hand), and finally what about blood blow back.....saying he was killed while sleeping, is about as convincing as Michael Jackson not being a child molester.....has the Tn law enforcement been told not to investigate this case because of who he was?

SORRY, but Michael Jackson was NO child molestor, it's what you RACIST, JEALOUS & ENVIOUS folks tried to make him into, BECAUSE he was GENEROUS & CARING to children! It's what GREEDY, EVIL, SELFISH, LAZY PEOPLE DO when they see someone like MJ, put himself into a situation whereby, because he's BLACK, many people would believe the OUTRIGHT LIE and make MILLIONS of DOLLAR from it! What's more amazing, if he was what you tried to make him into, as much as he traveled, & as much as he entertained, & hung out with children, why wasn't there MORE COMPLAINS, from other Families, & other countries.

In Racist's eyes and beliefs, we cannot have a Good Decent Black Humantarian Conquer the World, through his song and dance, then be a Humanitarian on top of it, and the World LOVE him, because of his beautiful BEHAVIOR! Oh, No, we can't have this for a Person of Color! We MUST continue to TAINT them, even if it is an OUTRIGHT LIE!

senseless tragedy wrote:

hmmm
I haven't taken the time to read all of this thread, and I'm sure a lot of this update is common knowledge. I did get more information from the 'friend' I listed in the OP. He was with McNair and Kazemi the night prior to the murder, and in fact he left the Blue Moon Lagoon around 0130, leaving McNair there. Kazemi was not with them there. This source (David) said McNair wasn't ready to leave when he was leaving. McNair called a limo that took him to the condo. David went on home. He got the call from the same guy that found the bodies, and was on his way over there, arriving at the same time the cops did. David and McNair were close friends. He said (and this is becoming more known now) that McNair and his wife have been seperated for almost a year. Michelle is renovating the family home in Mississippi and was awaiting the sale of the Green Hills home. Steve had the condo. When the house sold, Steve was staying in Nashville, Michelle and the boys were going to MS. Steve had been seeing Kazemi for 9 months, but had recently started seeing yet ANOTHER woman in the last couple of months. He was peparing to kick Kazemi to the curb, she knew it, and she just snapped. FWIW. David of course has been grilled by the cops, and is constantly being harrassed by the media. He in fact has left the state to get away from all of that.
This may all be old news, but I thought I'd update what I've heard from an inside source. I'm not trying to be a PI or a sleuth here, I just happen to know a guy who has first hand knowledge.
http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/newsworthy-...

Your information is very interesting, and very believable! In adding fuel to the fire, if the man brought her an SUV for her Birthday, then handed her the payment book, I thought this was the straw that broke the camels back! How do you buy one GIFT, and tell them they GOT TO PAY FOR IT!

Hopefully some young women will learn something from this stupid act! NOT TO PUT OUT ANY SEXUAL FAVORS, UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT ... PAID FOR IN FULL, with title and Ownership papers in hand!

Working 3 jobs, and he didn't offer to set her up and take care of her, or RELIEVE her of working all those jobs, I say she was one big dummy! No way would I found any time to spend with that CHEAP RICH PUNK, NO WAY!

Godcares wrote:

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You make some very good points and I agree with that. Perhaps Ex-Cop can shed some light on these points. Since hollow points weren't used perhaps the exit wound and entry wound looked similar. I doubt it but that's the only way I can assume they would mix the two up.
As for honoring soldiers who died for our country. Boy, you sure hit a nerve for me as I wrote my album "War Torn Years" dedicated to combat veterans with part of the proceeds going to help disabled combat veterans. 25% of the homeless are Vietnam Veterans. I was lucky enough to play at the Vietnam Veteran Memorial Wall in Washington on the 25th anniversary and saw some very touching sights. Black veterans hugging white veterans in wheel chairs. Colin Powell describing the wall. So I agree with you 1000% in regards to honoring combat soldiers, fallen or not.

I just don't know, seems like the ME should be comptent enough after the autospy is done to release the correct information. I happen to think he did but it did fit so it was changed. Just like on the 7th NPD releases that they don't have a motive and that is one reason they have not ruled homicide or murder-suicide. Then the next day the case is ruled a murder-suicide and closed overnight she turned into an unstable scorned women seeking revenge and had been out of control for up. Of course this ruling is just in time for all the memorials services and worshiping of a so called great man who drove around drunk many times, chased young women endlessly disrepecting his wife and children selfishly, threw a football with precision and did charity work and helped underpriviledged children. Yet there was no mention of anything like this from the many the spoke out and poof overnight she is ruled an obsessed crazed murder, case closed.
Oh well I should not even care that there is a chance a young womans life was destroyed and ossibly was murder. She was a nothing anyway and disposable like everyday trash. I should be happy, afterall Steve McNair has been eulogized.
oh how awesome, I hope one day to stand before the wall. Our veterans past and present are near and dear to my heart. They are my heros. I will never forget my brother coming home from Vietnam and being spit on at the airport. I am also a veteran, 10 years of Navy service but during peace time so I really don't feel like I count compared to those who have fought in wars or given the ultimate sacrifice. I am so thankful that my oldest son came home after serving in Afghan I can't imagine the pain families go through when they lose their loved ones at war.
So good to hear you support our vets especially the disabled vets. It is sad that so many vets are homeless, we don't take care of our vets like we should and in many cases they are forgotten about. I hope we do better with those who have been fighting in Iraq and Afghan but I don't have much faith in that anymore.

I for one Loved Steve McNair he was my hero and someone whom I always wanted to meet, but the sad thing is he tore down his wonderful reputation in 24 hours that had taken him a life time to build up. I hate he is gone and I cried when I learn of his passing because like I said I am a true fan of him and the Tennessee Titans. In saying this though I have been cheated on and that is not cool at all. He should have been home with his wife and his children and this terrible tragedy would never have happen. He is torn his childrens life apart with all he has done and they will suffer for it not him. They have to see all the news reports of him and this other "girl" and so does his wife and how embarassing that must be for all the public to know your dirty laundry. If he was unhappy in his marriage he should have done the proper thing and divorce not take his mistress on beach vacations while his boys are and wife are at home. Such a sad way his great life come to a end, I would have much rather not known of the other "girl" because it has made me have less respect for the man I thought was the BEST at all he did.

WAITING TO EXHALE wrote:

I'm sure there were many nights that Mechelle lost sleep worrying about her hubby running the streets and the women on the side. She's probably getting the best sleep she has ever had in those past 12 years. You men just don't know how much strain and stress you put upon us women (wives) when you are out there doing "business". Well Mechelle my sista, you can now exhale and sleep well. God Bless!

YOU GO GIRL

Dee wrote:

ok people my prayers go out to the Mcnair children and to the Kazemi friends and family. This little girl was 20 what do you expect? life is nothing but material when your'e 20!!!! McNair was grown so he is not the wonderful person he is cracked up to be!! Put blame where blame needs to be please!

Dee you are totally Right. You had a woman at home but chose to be with a baby....O well we learn from our mistakes...the sad thing is he has left his 4 sons without a daddy...NOT COOL STEVE!!! He should have been home with his family for the holidays not out playing with children...

senseless tragedy wrote:

I want to know how Sahel bought a gun around 5pm at Opry Mills and was at home at or before 5:21pm to list her furniture for sale on craigs list.

If you catch the traffic and red lights right and take a couple back roads, it IS possible to go from the mall to the apartments that she lived in in around or even under 15 minutes. So it is a possibility the time frames are right. I used to live very close to those apts and made that run to and from the mall many times.

Well know yet none around Steve cared enough to get him the help he needed years ago.

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It was well-known that Steve McNair was a womanizer. Because he was famous, everyone ignored the elephant in the room. He got a free pass. Until the night his free pass expired, so to speak.

Lots of other red flags, but you get the gist. Steve McNair, like Michael Jackson, was another dead man walking, who made headlines when he finally, actually died.

He will never open that new restaurant Gridiron he was so excited about. He'll never see his wife and four sons again. He'll never make another public service announcement or mentor another up-and-coming Titans quarterback---all because he was hooked on feelings that desperately drove him from one woman to another and another without regard to the real feelings of his wife and little boys.

And no matter what interference Titans nice-guy coach Jeff Fisher runs about "the great Steve McNair he knew," Steve's low-life living of sex, drugs, alcohol, and bar hopping should be a cautionary tale for all of us and in the end detracts from all the good, community service work he's done over the years.

In the end, bullets in the head and chest ended the long, slow suicidal spiral of former NFL great, Steve McNair. Mark Sanford, Eddie George etc, are you listening?
As Nashville grieves for its great idol Steve McNair, let's give grief where crief is due: Mechelle McNair and the four boys she had with her unfaithful husband. May God be with them all.

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I'm sure Steve put down a hefty payment on the SUV so she COULD afford it. I say she was selling that furniture because she needed the $$$$$. She came to realize Steve was no longer the gravy train and she had ex bf in her ear telling her what a piece of crap he was. And who was gonna show her how to FIRE the gun??? No doubt in MY mind Norfleet (ex bf) was in on it somehow.

TruthSayer wrote:

I'm sure Steve put down a hefty payment on the SUV so she COULD afford it. I say she was selling that furniture because she needed the $$$$$. She came to realize Steve was no longer the gravy train and she had ex bf in her ear telling her what a piece of crap he was. And who was gonna show her how to FIRE the gun??? No doubt in MY mind Norfleet (ex bf) was in on it somehow.

He loved her so much he wanted her to go to prison, or worse, commit suicide? I don't think so.

danintenn wrote:

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If you catch the traffic and red lights right and take a couple back roads, it IS possible to go from the mall to the apartments that she lived in in around or even under 15 minutes. So it is a possibility the time frames are right. I used to live very close to those apts and made that run to and from the mall many times.

so that leaves about 6 minutes to get in the house and create the listing time stamped at 5:21pm.Assuming she had already taken the pictures.
Wasn't she also suppose to be at work friday night and left early. So she drove to opry mills bought the gun, raced back home, listed her furniture for sale on craigs list then drove back to opry mills to go to work.

It must have been a high priority for her to get those items sold since she was planning on killing herself and murdering Steve less than 12 hours later. I'm sure she was hoping it would all sell before she killed herself and her lover.

Earthie wrote:

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Your information is very interesting, and very believable! In adding fuel to the fire, if the man brought her an SUV for her Birthday, then handed her the payment book, I thought this was the straw that broke the camels back! How do you buy one GIFT, and tell them they GOT TO PAY FOR IT!
Hopefully some young women will learn something from this stupid act! NOT TO PUT OUT ANY SEXUAL FAVORS, UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT ... PAID FOR IN FULL, with title and Ownership papers in hand!
Working 3 jobs, and he didn't offer to set her up and take care of her, or RELIEVE her of working all those jobs, I say she was one big dummy! No way would I found any time to spend with that CHEAP RICH PUNK, NO WAY!

Yes I think this info is accurate, the time stamp of the first post in the thread seems to be before it was released in the news. Also seems the guy stopped putting information out. Guess he realized it was for all to see!!
I do wonder what family owned resturant this David is a part of.
I would not doubt if McNair was giving her money to make the payments. But then again he maybe more of a **** then I thought also.
I agree women and men need to learn a lesson from this tragedy. And women need to tell these whoredoggies to go take a hike instead of letting them use and abuse them.

senseless tragedy wrote:

Well know yet none around Steve cared enough to get him the help he needed years ago.
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It was well-known that Steve McNair was a womanizer. Because he was famous, everyone ignored the elephant in the room. He got a free pass. Until the night his free pass expired, so to speak.
Lots of other red flags, but you get the gist. Steve McNair, like Michael Jackson, was another dead man walking, who made headlines when he finally, actually died.
He will never open that new restaurant Gridiron he was so excited about. He'll never see his wife and four sons again. He'll never make another public service announcement or mentor another up-and-coming Titans quarterback---all because he was hooked on feelings that desperately drove him from one woman to another and another without regard to the real feelings of his wife and little boys.
And no matter what interference Titans nice-guy coach Jeff Fisher runs about "the great Steve McNair he knew," Steve's low-life living of sex, drugs, alcohol, and bar hopping should be a cautionary tale for all of us and in the end detracts from all the good, community service work he's done over the years.
In the end, bullets in the head and chest ended the long, slow suicidal spiral of former NFL great, Steve McNair. Mark Sanford, Eddie George etc, are you listening?
As Nashville grieves for its great idol Steve McNair, let's give grief where crief is due: Mechelle McNair and the four boys she had with her unfaithful husband. May God be with them all.
http://webutante07.blogspot.com/

Gridiron9
was open 2 weeks prior to his death.

senseless tragedy wrote:

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so that leaves about 6 minutes to get in the house and create the listing time stamped at 5:21pm.Assuming she had already taken the pictures.
Wasn't she also suppose to be at work friday night and left early. So she drove to opry mills bought the gun, raced back home, listed her furniture for sale on craigs list then drove back to opry mills to go to work.
It must have been a high priority for her to get those items sold since she was planning on killing herself and murdering Steve less than 12 hours later. I'm sure she was hoping it would all sell before she killed herself and her lover.

Too much is being made of this. I think you have the dates confused. Correct me if I am wrong here but the date of the gun purchase and craigslist ad was Thursday, not Friday. I am sure parking lot cameras recorded the gun transaction at the mall although I have not seen or heard of them yet. According to the Tennessean, she had worked Thurs afternoon and was told to go home early due to spending so much time in the lot (purchasing gun).

Like I said earlier, there was plenty of time to get home and post the ad. Remember, it was AROUND 5 p.m. not exactly 5. Friday night was the night she left work at 10 and went home before the trip to the condo.

She was also not trying to make any money from the selling of the furniture. Just seemed to want to get rid of it as the ad stated it was all selling for $1.

Way too many conspiriacy theories have come into play in this case. I believe it happened just as the investigation showed, it all makes sense. It is all history, nothing can change the events as they played out. Just look at it as a lesson in messing with a chick that hasn't grown up yet mentally. She got dissed and couldn't handle it. Also a lesson in trying to relive the youth and act like you have the morals of an alley cat. If you have a wife and family at home, then be a man and act like it.

Sad the situation turned into what it did but after this, maybe someone somewhere might second think themselves before leaving their family and messing around like that.

senseless tragedy wrote:

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Yes I think this info is accurate, the time stamp of the first post in the thread seems to be before it was released in the news. Also seems the guy stopped putting information out. Guess he realized it was for all to see!!
I do wonder what family owned resturant this David is a part of.
I would not doubt if McNair was giving her money to make the payments. But then again he maybe more of a **** then I thought also.
I agree women and men need to learn a lesson from this tragedy. And women need to tell these whoredoggies to go take a hike instead of letting them use and abuse them.

Why didn't he pay for it in FULL, this man is/was a MILLIONAIRE! When was the last time someone gave you a BIRTHDAY GIFT, or ANY GIFT and told you, you had to pay for it, UNLESS you told him, if you paid so much, I will handle the rest? I'm sorry, I would not even put that thought in his rich bank account mind! I'm doing something you can't get from your WIFE, or is your butt just an OUTRIGHT GREEDY DOG .... well, YOU MUST PAY, BIG TIME, for I know if I was his wife, I would not want it done to me, nor would I have done what this STUPID young woman did! I was WRONG for taking up with this CHEATER, KNOWING he was MARRIED!

This young woman fixed his butt BIG TIME! You're not going to help me with my burdens, well buddy, you won't live to GO BACK to enjoy your WEALTH!

But honestly, I still can't believe she did it, despite what they have come out with and reported. Unless, like I said, he USED THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK! Giving her a car for her birthday, UNPAID for, well I would have been angry, but I would have given it RIGHT BACK TO HIM, and KICKED him to the curb! No way could I do what she did, no way, when I KNEW I was WRONG for taking up with him, KNOWING he was a married man, w/children & NOT DIVORCED! People LIE everyday of the week! I was married to a man that did exactly that, LIED on me BIG TIME! Why women believe that crap, when you're living in the SAME HOUSE, sharing the same bed with these lying SOB's!

No Mitch, it all went terribly wrong I think. Norfleet did in McNair and then HAD to kill Kazemi because she was freaking out so much and she was going to snitch on him. He manipultaed her to buy the gun I think. Most women who have never fired a gun before would want a man to show them how and maybe even go w/ them to make the purchase.

Earthie wrote:

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Why didn't he pay for it in FULL, this man is/was a MILLIONAIRE! When was the last time someone gave you a BIRTHDAY GIFT, or ANY GIFT and told you, you had to pay for it, UNLESS you told him, if you paid so much, I will handle the rest? I'm sorry, I would not even put that thought in his rich bank account mind! I'm doing something you can't get from your WIFE, or is your butt just an OUTRIGHT GREEDY DOG .... well, YOU MUST PAY, BIG TIME, for I know if I was his wife, I would not want it done to me, nor would I have done what this STUPID young woman did! I was WRONG for taking up with this CHEATER, KNOWING he was MARRIED!
This young woman fixed his butt BIG TIME! You're not going to help me with my burdens, well buddy, you won't live to GO BACK to enjoy your WEALTH!
But honestly, I still can't believe she did it, despite what they have come out with and reported. Unless, like I said, he USED THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK! Giving her a car for her birthday, UNPAID for, well I would have been angry, but I would have given it RIGHT BACK TO HIM, and KICKED him to the curb! No way could I do what she did, no way, when I KNEW I was WRONG for taking up with him, KNOWING he was a married man, w/children & NOT DIVORCED! People LIE everyday of the week! I was married to a man that did exactly that, LIED on me BIG TIME! Why women believe that crap, when you're living in the SAME HOUSE, sharing the same bed with these lying SOB's!

I think the SUV was tied to the new resturant. He may not have wanted to pay cash for it if he was getting divorced and that could look like he was hiding martial assets. I don't know it is wierd his name is even on it.
I think McNair has people drive him around so he avoids a dui and maybe he did not want to be driven around in a KIA when with Sahel.
Don't know and I'm sure we will never know.
Well guys like McNair look for women they can maniulate and will believe anything. Sadly that is normally young girls around the age of 20.
It's really a predatory type of mindset IMO. find the pretty young and weak use them up then throw them away.
I still feel that Steve might have actually cared for her why else would he risk taking her to his farm in MS???

The more I think about this, the more I think she KNEW it was over w/ Steve so she was going back to Norfleet. She knew after the DUI and her dumba*s saying “I’m high” that it was over. She was way too immature and had become a huge liability to McNair. She cried on Norfleet’s shoulder and told him how pis*ed she was and how she and Norfleet would get back together. He manipulated her to purchase the gun because he hated Steve's guts so badly after taking her from him as well as extreme jealousy (hence the email to the newspaper after the DUI).

Kazemi had been stewing all day and was so upset about being shunned by Steve after the DUI that she had to leave work at 10pm instead of 1am that she was scheduled. Steve went out Fri. night without her so she calls Norfleet over to cuddle and sleep w/ her and to cry on his shoulder some more. They then ride together over to Steve's condo and wait on him. Steve comes in drunk off his a*s and plops on the couch.**** Norfleet caps him in the head (each side of the temple consecutively as he probably walked to the other side of McNair to make sure he was dead and fired on the other side of the temple while probably talking **** to a dead McNair as he hated his guts so badly).

Ole girl freaks out and he says “I did you a favor, you have nothing to worry about now. I love you and I never want to see you hurt like that again.” She is still freaking out and Norfleet realizes he has to get rid of her crazy a*s since she is a witness. She takes one to the temple after Norfleet tells her to sit beside McNair and “shut the f*ck UP!” and he then puts the gun in her left hand while gripping over her and shoots 2 more shots to McNair’s chest to ensure that she has gunpowder residue on her hand.

Unbeknowing to anyone, Norfleet had keys to the condo (very easily could have had one made at anytime, especially after driving the Escalade for her after the DUI) locks up the door behind him and is on his merry way just like he has rapped about.

My .02

danintenn wrote:

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Too much is being made of this. I think you have the dates confused. Correct me if I am wrong here but the date of the gun purchase and craigslist ad was Thursday, not Friday. I am sure parking lot cameras recorded the gun transaction at the mall although I have not seen or heard of them yet. According to the Tennessean, she had worked Thurs afternoon and was told to go home early due to spending so much time in the lot (purchasing gun).
Like I said earlier, there was plenty of time to get home and post the ad. Remember, it was AROUND 5 p.m. not exactly 5. Friday night was the night she left work at 10 and went home before the trip to the condo.
She was also not trying to make any money from the selling of the furniture. Just seemed to want to get rid of it as the ad stated it was all selling for $1.
Way too many conspiriacy theories have come into play in this case. I believe it happened just as the investigation showed, it all makes sense. It is all history, nothing can change the events as they played out. Just look at it as a lesson in messing with a chick that hasn't grown up yet mentally. She got dissed and couldn't handle it. Also a lesson in trying to relive the youth and act like you have the morals of an alley cat. If you have a wife and family at home, then be a man and act like it.
Sad the situation turned into what it did but after this, maybe someone somewhere might second think themselves before leaving their family and messing around like that.

you are correct I got the dates mixed up on this as far as going back to work. Thanks for the heads up.
Too much is being made of this because of the insulting way NPD has left so many ****'s concerning this. Also many in the Nashville area have seen Steve and the boys in action for years.
I mean seriously what "Great" man has some young girl walk up to him and accuse him of slipping her a roofie? Then let's him know her boyfriend will be killing him and I'll be damn he's killed in less than 5 hours at his secret love/drug shack.