911 tapes released in dirt bike death

I hate some people...

" rbr wrote:
all you old school gun people suck...you live in fear all day and think a gun will save you. wake up and smell the coffee...the world is rotting, and not even your little gun will save you...you are part of the problem, not the solution, but I'm sure your guns will take a few of your kids down with you (I lost 3 friends from you stupid old school people who like to leave your guns around your houses so they will be at easy access to help save you). How ridiculous. Put your faith in a gun...how pathetic."

You my friend are absolutely pathetic. The friends you lost, did they go into those houses when they got shot? I am sorry but if you intrude into someones house you do indeed deserve to be shot. Get a clue ****

Sick of this wrote:

Why doesn't Channel 8 get off their backsides and do an investigative report? Is "Minority TV-8" going to let these animals get away with it just like the police are doing? When Minorities control the Media and the Police Department in a City, this is what happens. Wish the van driver had a gun...oh yeah, that's right, we don't need guns because we have the Police to protect us *#$&

Oh man, look how hardcore this guy is.
Casual racism sure is awesome.

Kill yourself.

Since most of you posters appear to be on a hair trigger as it is, allow me to say this.

Odds are if most of you saw your precious 10 year old white girl neighbor in the street having been- what appears to you- hit by a van at an intersection, and you, not seeing anything that occurred other than said van sitting there over the kid's corpse, you'd probably do the same things that angry gang of kids did. You, in all your ignorant blind rage, would not have done the same?

With some of the comments posted here, it's very obvious that most of you are far more vicious than any of those teenagers, because instead of random rage violence on the street, you're trying to rationalize violence by claiming that you have the right to protect yourself, that the police in New Haven are worthless, that it's ok to be a racist if it's on the internet. What's wrong with New Haven? What the hell is wrong with you? The city is outraged? They should be, because people like the posters here appear to have not had the primitive parts of their brain evolve.

It's embarrassing to be in the same county as you people, let alone the same planet.

put the little thugs in jail. they are all losers. all of them.

This just goes to show that anyone with any common sense should stay far far away from the ghetto at all cost. These people are just animals and should be treated as such. Instead of cops they should have zoo keepers with tranquilizer darts. It is true that apples don’t fall far from the tree this is a perfect case and point. The entire ghetto culture is embarrassing. People need to strive to be better, and to do the rite thing. I know its easer said than done but look at what they have become. These kids need year round school to keep them off of the streets, they need constant supervision. Until they take ownership of the community, and have something to be proud of(Maybe try scouts?) we need to build a fence throw them treats, and watch from a distance. Everyone needs a little religion no matter what you believe. These animals need to find something.

Lolwhat I don't think so.I know if this happened in my neighborhood my neighbors our children and I would not have dragged the driver out and beat him.We were not brought up this way.It's a shame this kid died but it is his own fault and his father's also. Instead of trying to blame everyone else for once stop playing the race card all the time take the blame for what you do. It's embarrassing to be in the same country with people who think like YOU. If you don't like it here MOVE OUT.

His father is traying to put the blame on the
police has always.,same old story

Lolwhat wrote:

Since most of you posters appear to be on a hair trigger as it is, allow me to say this.
Odds are if most of you saw your precious 10 year old white girl neighbor in the street having been- what appears to you- hit by a van at an intersection, and you, not seeing anything that occurred other than said van sitting there over the kid's corpse, you'd probably do the same things that angry gang of kids did. You, in all your ignorant blind rage, would not have done the same?
With some of the comments posted here, it's very obvious that most of you are far more vicious than any of those teenagers, because instead of random rage violence on the street, you're trying to rationalize violence by claiming that you have the right to protect yourself, that the police in New Haven are worthless, that it's ok to be a racist if it's on the internet. What's wrong with New Haven? What the hell is wrong with you? The city is outraged? They should be, because people like the posters here appear to have not had the primitive parts of their brain evolve.
It's embarrassing to be in the same county as you people, let alone the same planet.

No, you stupid ****, most people would try to tend to their fallen friend or family member to do the best they can to save them. The last thought on a normal human beings mind would be to attack someone, they would check on the injured(family or stranger)!
You probably just posted one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet,****.

Common Sense wrote:

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Unfortunately, our tax dollars will soon be (again) paying for the care, feeding and maintenance of the so-called father. Arnold Payne is a convicted felon with a rap sheet a mile long...including risk of injury to a minor (probably his own son) and strangulation! NOBODY should be paying any mind to ANYTHING this man has to say. He was probably right there beating on that van driver with all the other little gang members. He is the scum on the bottom of our shoes, and his son's death is his and his son's own fault. He was a thug in the making, just like his daddy.
And before you get on me and call me a racist...I'm not saying that because he's black. I'm saying it because it is TRUE! He made his own bed...let him lie in it! Here is the proof.
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetail.a...
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetail.a...
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetail.a...
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetail.a...

Common Sense...I love readers who can back up their story with proof...good work my friend..i agree with you 100 percent...

Most of these posting are truly sad. While it is true that this family, this father, this son, are wedded to lawlessness (witness the father's rap sheet)it is a disservice to a neighborhood to write it off. There is a problem in a city with most of it's tax base non-taxable (Yale)that is an urban environment in need of many services to youth and the disenfranchised. I don't think these kids should be coddled or have the urge to explain away their behavior by pointing out their relative poverty, but I do think the community at large should take some responsibility to fill in the gaps the City cannot financially support. We need the large corporations to help create jobs and activities for kids on the loose. Yes, parents are ultimately responsible for their children but when parents fail or refuse the responsibility it is society that must step in. Writing people off and saying the world is rotting is defeatist, and I for one refuse to hand my world over the the lawless regardless of their circumstances. And in my part of New Haven we would not beat someone senseless over an accident, perhaps that is because we all know each other and have taken the time to become a community. I am sure there are those of you who will think I am pathetic, so thanks for the empathy.

BTW, you might be interested to know that in other newspapers they're saying that the father of this kid is a jailbird himself. As they say, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

I'd venture to bet daddy dearest was well aware the dirt bike was stolen, but did he make his kid return the stolen property? NO. Did he call the cops and tell them his son had stolen property? NO. In fact, daddy dearest, by his LACK of action, sent a very approving message to his son that stealing the dirt bike was a "good" thing.

And the van driver didn't hit the stupid kid on the dirt bike. The stupid kid ran into the back of the van as it proceeded through the intersection. The stupid kid RAN A STOP SIGN and plowed into the rear quarter panel of the van.

Now he's dead. Good riddance. Squashed like the roach he was.

Daddy Payne was just looking to get his 15 minutes... If he REALLY cared about his son maybe he should have spent more time IN his life teaching him MORALS and VALUES and less time serving his "several stints in jail"! Even so, at 15 years old kids know right from wrong. Bottom line is he was a juvenile deliquent (as are his friends) and even though it's sad that he died, he caused his own death and that is no one's fault but his own. I pray to God they find every single one of his friends involved and try them ALL for attempted murder. They deserve at LEAST that! The other reader said God will give them what they deserve but why should we sit back and wait that long? They could commit another 20 crimes by then, they have already proven they have NO respect for human life! I agree with the cops doing a door to door round up until they find every last one of those degenerates!

Lolwhat wrote:

Since most of you posters appear to be on a hair trigger as it is, allow me to say this.
Odds are if most of you saw your precious 10 year old white girl neighbor in the street having been- what appears to you- hit by a van at an intersection, and you, not seeing anything that occurred other than said van sitting there over the kid's corpse, you'd probably do the same things that angry gang of kids did. You, in all your ignorant blind rage, would not have done the same?
With some of the comments posted here, it's very obvious that most of you are far more vicious than any of those teenagers, because instead of random rage violence on the street, you're trying to rationalize violence by claiming that you have the right to protect yourself, that the police in New Haven are worthless, that it's ok to be a racist if it's on the internet. What's wrong with New Haven? What the hell is wrong with you? The city is outraged? They should be, because people like the posters here appear to have not had the primitive parts of their brain evolve.
It's embarrassing to be in the same county as you people, let alone the same planet.

1- A little 10yr old white girl wouldn't be on a stolen dirt bike. A dirt bike that doesn't belong on the road to begin with.
2- It has happened were white children were hit and killed and the driver was not beat to near death.
3- This is obvious that if this did happen the other way around there would be protests and marches where it happened.(East Haven ring a bell?)
4- Yes I am White,(which some will not admit on here) and I hate every RACE including white people, because the fact is that every race has good and bad people.

The animals that beat the van driver and the parents, should be in prison. The kid on the dirt bike, well that is
what you get for steeling.

Lolwhat wrote:

Since most of you posters appear to be on a hair trigger as it is, allow me to say this.
Odds are if most of you saw your precious 10 year old white girl neighbor in the street having been- what appears to you- hit by a van at an intersection, and you, not seeing anything that occurred other than said van sitting there over the kid's corpse, you'd probably do the same things that angry gang of kids did. You, in all your ignorant blind rage, would not have done the same?
With some of the comments posted here, it's very obvious that most of you are far more vicious than any of those teenagers, because instead of random rage violence on the street, you're trying to rationalize violence by claiming that you have the right to protect yourself, that the police in New Haven are worthless, that it's ok to be a racist if it's on the internet. What's wrong with New Haven? What the hell is wrong with you? The city is outraged? They should be, because people like the posters here appear to have not had the primitive parts of their brain evolve.
It's embarrassing to be in the same county as you people, let alone the same planet.

No, most of us wouldn't react that way nor would most black people (or a person of any race) who have morals and HALF OF THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS IN TACT. If that were my son/daughter/friend I would be MUCH MORE worried about tending to them and getting them help than beating the holy hell out of the driver of the van.

Did it really take over 8 minutes of calls for the police and ambulance to arrive on scene?

You know it wrote:

This whole story is sad and this is just the next chapter. How many people called 911 but didn't have the courage to try to intervene? The news said there were dozens of calls but nobody stepped in to stop that man from being beat? Also, for such an impoverished neighborhood that doesn't have the money to get their kids into a social program to do something constructive there sure are a lot of people with cell phones. What are the priorities here people? Your kids or your cell phones?

I still say at least it wasn't in Hartford where no one even called for help when the old man had gotten hit. I wouldn't have stopped those kids from beating the guy either, how am I supposed to know if any of those kids had a gun and was going to shoot me from stopping the fight **** that. I'm glad the van driver didn't die, better the kid than him.

reallynow wrote:

Did it really take over 8 minutes of calls for the police and ambulance to arrive on scene?

Yup. It's a shame really when Yale hospital is just about 1-2 miles down the road from where the accident took place.