City Hiring 40 New Police Recruits

Unvarnished Truth wrote:

Here are some questions for those who think they should do away with cops driving thsir cars off duty.
How many extra manhours and cops will you need to answer the over 200,000 calls off duty cops cops leaving on duty cops to handle more serious calls?
How many more robberies will take place at stores where these off duty officers frequent and park thier cars in the store's parking lots?
How many more car accidents will happen will fewer cop cars on the street? And how many more manhours and cops will you need to work the wrecks caused by speeders, redlight/stop sign runners, etc?
How many more houses will be burglerized because cop cars are not in the neighborhoods?
How much will it cost to secure and protect cop cars driven by officers that live out of county if they leave them in duval? How many mnhours will be wasted by them having to unload and load weapons and other equipment assigned to them if they are not in control of that car while off duty?
Cops pay a fee to work extra jobs to offset the cost of equipment use, even if they don't use the car except to get to the job and back..they are paying to use the cars already.
I think if you look at the off duty car s being used it is a win/win for the cop and the city. Most of the whinners about the cop cars are just picking on the cops without looking and the dollars and cents of the matter.

bobbie wrote:

<quoted text>First of all I didnt say I didnt care where u moved I said him as in Moore. He seems to hate the USA so bad and thinks other countries are far better than we are so why dont he move? He certainly has the money so that cant be stopping him. As far as him discrediting Bush he forgot to leave out the fact that Bush had to clean up 8 years of Clintons mess. And that is fact. Yeah things were better when Clinton was in office and u know why?? Because Bill was 2 busy getting blown in every direction that he never actually did his job as a president. And he also rode on the coattails of Bush Sr. Now as far as healthcare goes Moore didnt bust no doors open saying USA needs better healthcare plans. He states Canada is far ahead of us in that dept but what he also fails to state is that the wait for decent healthcare in Canada is so long that most people dont get the help that they need. And I'm sorry but I can't take seriously a guy who always looks like he cant take a shower or apply deodorant so that u don't have to look at his pit stains. As far as the blacks getting killed unfairly then maybe they shouldn't be putting themselves in a position to where they get put in that position. I'm not saying cops are 100% right all of the time..they r not. But, in some cases they have to do what they feel is right and how r they to know that when they tell someone to drop their weapon and that person doesn't that the weapon isnt really a weapon??

Northside cop wrote:

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The fee is $10.00 an hour. That is more than the gas it burns while idling. Once again if people drove with common sense, our presence would not be necessary. The DOT started mandating we be there due to all the accidents in there areas because people drive like idiots through them. I am more scared of being stopped on the interstate than chasing a thug with a gun. Too many drivers fly through construction zones like its no big deal while you have workers less than five feet away. I hate the Dames Point bridge. I have been nearly hit twice while up there helping broken down motorists. There was a patrol car destroyed and a wrecker driver killed several years ago up there by a distracted driver.

Northside cop wrote:

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I don't know where you get your "facts" from. My pension is taken out of my paycheck. I see every other week what they take out. The city does supposedly match it. Of course all that means is money they would be paying me for salary gets redirected to their part of the pension. If you want a better lifestyle get a better job. Thats all it takes. If your lifestyle is so bad that you are whining about what police officers make then you are the one with a problem.

dawgs1 wrote:

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You have absolutely no idea what it takes to be a police officer in any city. You have no clue the risks they take daily. How dedicated are you at your job? Ever lay your life on the line for piss-poor pay? Every time a police officer stops someone for a routine traffic violation, their life is at risk...they have no idea what they may face when they walk up to that window. Your bitchin' about a police officer using a patrol car for personal use? Consider it part of their "fringe benefits", since their salary suckks! You sound like a prime candidate for the new recruits program...of course, you'd need to grow some 'nads first.

Mark wrote:

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Waaaa!!!! Waaaa!!!, I am sure your job is so much tougher than anybody elses, in the world, our U.S. military now thats a tough job and those people truly put their lives on the line, quit trying to ride their coat tails. As far as your pay goes, that old line wont work anymore, the people of jacksonville pay cops better than anywhere in the State, has that translated to lower crime?, not hardly, we are simply asking that you do your job and quit whining, I dont blame cops for the crime in our city, it is a cultural problem, adding more cops wont fix it.

Mark wrote:

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Waaaa!!!! Waaaa!!!, I am sure your job is so much tougher than anybody elses, in the world, our U.S. military now thats a tough job and those people truly put their lives on the line, quit trying to ride their coat tails. As far as your pay goes, that old line wont work anymore, the people of jacksonville pay cops better than anywhere in the State, has that translated to lower crime?, not hardly, we are simply asking that you do your job and quit whining, I dont blame cops for the crime in our city, it is a cultural problem, adding more cops wont fix it.

dawgs1 wrote:

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Hey, dumbas$, I'm NOT a police officer. I just respect what they do for minimal pay. Yeah, they're really rakin' it in in Jax...WTF?!? Police officers need all the help they can get. It's not just a cultural problem. Criminals are taken off the streets, and our justice system puts them right back out there. As for the military, my husband recently retired after 22 yrs...so don't talk to me about that lifestyle...I've lived it! I'm not riding any coat tails...I wore the freakin' coat! What the fuckk have you done? Step off, beyotch!

Sturdivant Slim wrote:

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The fact that you can't trust Moore based on his appearance is understandable. I wouldn't hire him for a job if he showed up like that. However find me a fact where he has misleaded or lied. I can't.

jjj wrote:

To get on JSO you need a college degree or military right? My friend has 5 years police officer experience but no college or military and wasn't sure if he should apply?

Northside cop wrote:

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Once again your facts are wrong. Here is the starting pay throughout the state.
Jacksonville:$38,500 after academy
Orlando:$39,100 after academy
Gulfport PD:$41,100
Treasure Island PD:$40,000-$61,000
Winter Haven PD:$35,609.60 to $53,414.40
North Port PD:$40,300 -$59,541
Port St. Lucie::$38,608 without experience
Starting up to $43,408 with experience
Daytona Beach PD:$33,628.68 - 56,956.80
Tallahassee PD:$39,282.42 -$61,004.00
Coral Springs PD:$45,361 -$61,002
Lighthouse Point PD:$47,943
Wilton Manors PD:$44,428
Village of Pinecrest:$46,800 -$62,700
Monroe PD:$40,726.36 -$42,762.68
http://www.fpca.com/fpcajobspage.htm
Of course there are a few that make less than we do also. I have never complained about the salary. I took the job because I wanted to help people and catch bad guys. Would I be happy if we were paid a little more, heck ya, who wouldn't. Do I think the highest paid people should be our military, heck yeah, they deserve it. The point is you attack my brothers and sisters for not doing their job. The lengthy rap sheets these thugs have proves we are doing our job. It proves that we are arresting them but the courts keep releasing them. I have caught multiple drug dealers red handed with drugs in their hands three or more times just to have them released back out on the streets. I know that the house I spend hundreds of man hours in setting up a search warrant on will be right back in business next week, but its what I am paid to do. The only thing that bothers me worse than the courts slapping these thugs on the wrist is citizens complaining about something they don't understand. You say we make more than anyone in the state and yet that is not true. You say we don't do our job and yet last year we made over 52,000 arrests. Unless my math is wrong thats about 142 arrests a day. I would love not to spend so much time on traffic violators but the traffic homicide numbers are insane. Let it rain and all I do is go from traffic crash to traffic crash.
I am more than happy in this job and I live to get bad guys off the street. Don't act like you have it all figured out unless you have been involved, something this job has taught me.
To all of you who support us and pray for us, I say a huge THANK YOU!

Sturdivant Slim wrote:

The truth about the police in a 5 minute film. Presented by Michael Moore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Nothin but racists with a license to kill.

Sturdivant Slim wrote:

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You two idiots did exactly what I expect. Rather than discredit him with something concrete you call him a "slob", "anit- american" and a "piece of garbage". Exactly what has he said that is not true? In that film I cited he showed examples of how blacks were killed for because the police believed they were armed. He cited countless examples like the man who was shot for carrying a newspaper, another for holding a wallet and another for carrying a spatula!!
It's too bad you morons are going out of your way not to recognize what is going on around you. Why the hate for Moore? Because he exposed George Bush, blamed gun makers for violence in the streets and said the country needs national healthcare? Why can't you name ONE THING that he has said that is inaccurate?
Bobbie, I don't see why you are concerned where we move to because it seems as if you have been living in a cave.
Justice in the courts or justice in the streets!

Dixie Joe wrote:

We need more cops and less ******kkkneeGrows.

Mark wrote:

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Same old line, they risk their lives every day!!, check out the statistics on dangerous jobs compiled by facts (injuries,deaths), cops and firefighters dont even register, Contruction workers, Store Clerks, Fisherman, even people on a daily commute to work, they all risk their lives every day, but we dont hear the whining and the need for acknowlegement for doing their jobs like we do from cops and firefighters, we in the private sector do our jobs and go about our lives. As far as pensions and benefits go, look at the amount Rutherford spent to increase both of these, are we safer in Jax? not hardly, the city has over $50,000,000 in unfunded obligations for pensions and benifits, I am sure they will shake down the generall public for this in the future. City and State employees need to start contributing to their own retiremt and take pay cuts like everybody else is, quit shaking us down to maintain your lifestyle, suck it up like the rest of us.

FromThe South2 wrote:

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Health Care, Bobbie already told you part of it, long waits. The fact is, people from Canada, Britan and other countries that have paid health care are comming to the US and paying for medical care that they can not wait for. Many of the people in these countries also paying extra for health care insurance in their own countries. Britan has told expecting mothers to get a midwife and don't come to the hospital. The fact is do you really want a ferderal run health care? What happens everytime the government takes over something and runs it? Being self-employed I don't have any health care and I use to believe that government health care would be great. But after researching and listening to both sides, I don't want our government involved. I do believe that changes do need to be made. But I would rather the changes come from the doctors, hospitals and insurance companies than from the government. Ronald Reagan said it best, the best government is the government that governs the least.

dawgs1 wrote:

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Hey, dumbas$, I'm NOT a police officer. I just respect what they do for minimal pay. Yeah, they're really rakin' it in in Jax...WTF?!? Police officers need all the help they can get. It's not just a cultural problem. Criminals are taken off the streets, and our justice system puts them right back out there. As for the military, my husband recently retired after 22 yrs...so don't talk to me about that lifestyle...I've lived it! I'm not riding any coat tails...I wore the freakin' coat! What the fuckk have you done? Step off, beyotch!

Crossing Enemy Lines wrote:

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You work him!!! He is just pissed because he can't be cooler than working at McDonalds and is SOOOOOOOOOOO jealous that they have better job than him! He wanted to grow up and be a GI JOE and carry a cool gun but as he found out they don't let rejects in and play with fire arms!!!