Where is 3 yr. old Caylee Marie Anthony?

Gail in Wyoming wrote:

Here is an update link on the searching going on in Florida for Caylee. The Anthony's really don't want Caylee to be found or they would have supplied an item of Caylee's with her scent on it, which they refused to do. Makes them all even more guilty in my book.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/20...

Thanks Gail for the web site and updates.

Since tomorrow is Grandparents Day, I will enjoy my time with my 3 grandchildren and wish that Caylee was safe and sound with us too.

TLC1000 wrote:

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Thanks Gail for the web site and updates.
Since tomorrow is Grandparents Day, I will enjoy my time with my 3 grandchildren and wish that Caylee was safe and sound with us too.

I'm spending some quality time with my grandson, appreciating every moment of it, and thanking God he was born into our loving family. I'm tearing up now.

TLC1000 wrote:

<quoted text> Doesn't sound like Casey was making ANY money selling sex; which by the way, would be GREAT money..Casey charged over $45,000 on Cindy's charge account. Amy said Casey always used a charge card.
And why do you find it hard to believe a woman would kill her child in order to be free of it? It happens ALL the time.

You know that selling sex is GREAT money, how?

I guess it would all depend on if you were affiliated with a Hollywood Madam type or if you fell for one of the "Live your dream" "Become a model now" scams.
The ones that suck young & naive girls in by promising them the good life while throwing them a few bones. Wine and dine, trips, clothes etc... then they own them. "Modeling Agents" become "Pimps".
Some girls end up walking the streets, some end up making porn vids while some end up screwing to get their drugs that the pimps get them hooked on.
If the girls don't pay up, or try getting out will take payment by any means they feel like.
Do you think all prostitution is like Julia Roberts in pretty woman? Think again.
These "models", "entertainment promoters" "photographers" and "DJ's" with their New York origins (Where they have human trafficking/Prostitution down to a science) should raise a cursory concern.
I'd be interested to know what those charge card charges consist of. Seems like Nancy Grace would be having a fit and telling us what she was buying all these meaningless, trivial possessions for her and her friends.
I mean with all of the other case related leaks that put the mother in the worst possible light, why not the charge card charges?
I wonder if there were any "talent agency" or "modeling agency" "tutition fees"?

I do not find it "hard to believe" that a mother would kill their own child. Andrea Yates, Darlie Routier and Susan Smith have all made headlines for this very reason. I wouldn't say it happens ALL the time, but it happens.
More children are killed by mothers leaving them with loser boyfriends.
I just don't see THIS particular case as being a case of convenience killing.

Casey--"Oh? there's a great concert? I'll kill my kid, then pick you up. How does 8:00 sound?"

If she was that cold and calculating, she would have drove to an alligator infested swamp and tossed the child in.

No Dna, no air contaminants, no need to carry a body around in the trunk. No need to BORROW A SHOVEL. No evidence.
She could have just done a toss-n-go.

Here is Casey's "mutual" friend Jeff Hopkins.
http://www.myspace.com/20346194
Here is Casey and Jeff together at Fusians. It's one of the now famous "Party Pic" series.
http://mj.933flz.com/cc-common/gallery/displa...
I doubt he is a custodial parent. At least I hope not. Maybe he gets vistitation for 6 mos. out of the year.

Sherlock wrote:

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You know that selling sex is GREAT money, how?

Well, according to documentaries on it, call girls online are making good money. Case in point, the girl that was found dead somewhere near Detroit; nobody in the family knew what she was doing. A beautiful model type. They claim she was making real good money and living the high life, until one of her clients,(scum-bag) took her out. Having the internet makes their business easier.

As for Casey; I don't believe a word she says. She was hired by Universal in 2004, maybe it was 2005 and was fired on 4-24-06. A Jeff Hopkins was fired from there on 5-13-02. Never a Juliette Lewis or Zenaida, which Casey said both worked there. She said she met Jeff at Nickelodeon at Universal and he just left working there in the past 9 or 10 months. No you think it's odd that Casey's babysitter while working at Universal was Lauren Gibbs; she claims she started using Zenaida in may of 06, after she was fired.

Casey's best friend, Ryan, didn't know a Jeff Hopkins and he lives in Jacksonville. But , the cops did call a Jeff with Casey's phone on July 15th. That Jeff then called Jesse Grund to tell him that the cops just called him with Casey's phone. Ok, so if this is the Jeff, where is the Zenaida that he is suppose to know and use for his son Zack? Don't you think the police would have checked him out to see who this Zenaida is? The cops say Zenaida doesn't exist; they CAN'T FIND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HER. All these guy can be brought before a grand jury and their a s s will be on the line if they are lying.

I didn't say Casey would kill her child to go to a concert. But would she kill her child to be with a man? This same child she wanted to put up for adoption 3 yrs. ago? I guess it's just a coincidence that her child disappeared and she moved in with Tony....NOT !!

As for the credit cards? Have you watched this from the very beginning? Casey was using Cindy's cards for awhile. It was all over the beginning of this story about the $45,000. I wanted to know why no videos from stores have been released or lists of shopping items. I'm sure the cops probably have it. She was stealing gas for awhile, too; that's why George put locks on the sheds. Cindy took the charge card away from her. I think that's one of the charges they were eluding to with the bond hearing; when Cindy got really ticked off. Word was that Cindy had to draw money out of her 401K to pay on that charge card that Casey used. Nancy Grace use to get on Cindy hard about those things; about kicking Casey out on the 15th, what the fight was about. Cindy use to talk back then, but now she is just on the defensive.

Sherlock wrote:

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I just don't see THIS particular case as being a case of convenience killing.

I'm curious. What kind of killing do you call it when Scott Peterson killed his VERY pregnant wife and unborn child , so he could be with another woman and have a new life?

What kind of killing was it for Susan Smith who drowned her two little boys , so she could be with a man that didn't want children?

More than 200 WOMEN kill their children each year in the U.S.

3 to 5 children are killed each and every day by their parents in the U.S.

No, this isn't about convenience. These people are sick and have a history of being sick, but nobody pays attention to it, especially family members. Do you honestly think it is normal behavior for a woman to act like Casey when her child is missing? Doesn't that tell you she is VERY capable of harming her child? IT SHOULD !
If Casey killed her daughter, sold her daughter,(doesn't matter)...she is one MESSED UP PERSON. She only thinks of herself, so yes, she would get rid of her daughter and probably did.

According to the documentaries, some call girls probably ARE making good money. Not ALL girls that get into it, are hooked up with GOOD sound business people. Some find shady a.ss, DANGEROUS, con men or THUGS.
They might start the girls out giving them the good life until they got them under their thumb. But once they got them in, they do what they want.
If the girls try to get out, they are beat down or killed. Or perhaps extorted for THOUSANDS of dollars if they can come up with the money.

""found dead somewhere near Detroit; nobody in the family knew what she was doing.""

HELLO?!?!?!?

That's what I've been saying! All of the lies MIGHT be because she didn't want family to KNOW what she was really doing. It's called LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE!
What do you think the Detroit woman told her family? Probably that she worked somewhere else, like (insert Universal) for instance.
Take the fact that Caylee is missing out of the equation for just a sec. and try to see what I'm saying. I'm saying that I BELIEVE Casey was a prostitute. I BELIEVE she knows the people she claims to knows. She just might not know them like she thinks.
People who are involved in underground, illegal tax-evasion, racketeering operations, like illegal drugs/prostitution, may not use their REAL names. It lessons the chances of getting caught. One thing they will do, is have ties to OTHER states. They keep moving around.
In Casey's case, some of these people know who her real family is. She might fear for them. Even if Casey never came up missing.
Can you think of what else she has been doing for the past 1 1/2 yrs.?

As for Casey: I don't believe what she said either concerning Universal either. I GET IT! SHE LIED ABOUT UNIVERSAL!
That doesn't mean she's lying about knowing the people she says that she knows. She's probably lying about HOW she knows them, because HOW she knows them is most likely effing ILLEGAL!
SO.....SHE SAID IT WAS FROM UNIVERSAL! Universal is legitimate.
Casey probably didn't WANT her best friend Ryan to know Jeff Hopkins. Ryan said that Casey was alluding to recent drug use and that shocked him as he didn't know her to be a drug user. He indicated that it shamed her.
If Casey, Hopkins, Zenaida, Juliette and others are involved in drugs and prostitution/porn, she probably didn't MENTION them to her REAL friends.
The girl, KioMarie, who made the statement about Casey wanting to adopt Caylee, has SERIOUS credibility issues. I didn't see that in anyone elses statements.
Irrelevant anyway. Many woman who experience unplanned pregnancy discuss options with people close to them. Young girls who feel they can't tell mom will explore other options. The ones who REALLY don't want the kid will go off to give birth and toss baby in a dumpster.
She didn't toss the baby in a dumpster, I doubt she would toss the baby for a concert and I must doubt she would kill the child for a man she only knew for a month. I could be wrong.
I'm more inclined to believe that Tony is more of a pimp than he is a boyfriend. They JUST started kicking it, so it's hard to say where that was going.
She moved in June 9th, he left for New York on the 29th. They hardly knew each other. She was his "favorite one", meaning pimp? She meets Tony and starts hanging at Fusian "managing the shot girls"? All in under a month? Managing shot girls could be code for "recruiting girls for clients". Not work as an ACTUAL Fusian employee.

Yes, I am familiar with the credit cards being charged up, I just don't know WHAT the charges were for. Was she cash advancing to pay someone protection money? Was she paying for people to go on trips or cruises? Was she paying some "modeling agent" Did she buy someone a car? A boat? College tutition?
$45k is a hell of a lot of money to have nothing to show. Why aren't we being told what the purchases were?

TLC1000 wrote:

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I'm curious. What kind of killing do you call it when Scott Peterson killed his VERY pregnant wife and unborn child , so he could be with another woman and have a new life?
What kind of killing was it for Susan Smith who drowned her two little boys , so she could be with a man that didn't want children?
More than 200 WOMEN kill their children each year in the U.S.
3 to 5 children are killed each and every day by their parents in the U.S.
No, this isn't about convenience. These people are sick and have a history of being sick, but nobody pays attention to it, especially family members. Do you honestly think it is normal behavior for a woman to act like Casey when her child is missing? Doesn't that tell you she is VERY capable of harming her child? IT SHOULD !
If Casey killed her daughter, sold her daughter,(doesn't matter)...she is one MESSED UP PERSON. She only thinks of herself, so yes, she would get rid of her daughter and probably did.

You may very well be right, but you may also be wrong.

Scott Peterson took his wife and unborn child to the water. Susan Smith took her boys to the water. Of the three Casey would have had the best chance at getting away with by taking the child to the water, because they have alligators.

Susan Smith buckled like a **** in church. It's the nature of being a mother. Even a cold murderous mother like her buckled.
Then again, maybe Casey has snapped and agreed to come clean by now. She has held up for a long time, tho.

Peterson would be the closest to your analogy. He still maintains his innocence.

Then there's always Steven Grant. Who knows WHAT he was thinking. It wasn't just convenience with that guy. That was waaaaaay overkill.

Yes Casey is one messed up individual. She might have killed her daughter. She might not have.

Your 200 women a year statistic is pretty troubling, indeed. Alarming if true.

However, considering that 3-5 children are killed by their parents every day. That's upwards of 1,825 children a year. 200 committed by women accounts for roughly 11%. That makes the other 89%, who?

But I know, you are saying Casey is one of the 200.

Casey's behavior for the past 2 years has been bizarre. Apparently the last month of it was more so. It makes me wonder what she did and with whom, for the past 1 1/2-2 years, that would cause her to rack up 45k in charges and kill a perfectly perfect baby.

But say all of these people that she has mentioned are really part of a Casey double life, illegal world. They aren't going to roll and tell police what they know.

That could be pretty dangerous, actually.

Sherlock wrote:

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Your 200 women a year statistic is pretty troubling, indeed. Alarming if true.

Well. the stats, that was easy, just did a search of "women who kill their children". Their is many sites who quote the same numbers, because of studies done for over 100 yrs. HOMICIDE is the number one death of children under 4yrs. of age, not crib death like most people think. Many have tried to figure out WHY a woman would kill her child; some are obviously insane, and many are just like Susan Smith. If Casey killed her child, it's not just because of Tony; it's because of ALL THE TONY'S in her life who have rejected her. This kind of mentality grows over time; it probably started with her OWN father, which we know wasn't a good relationship. People are looking for complicated answers, but the truth may very well just be simple; Casey thought this was the easiest way out or the easiest way to have her freedom. We will NEVER understand how she could think that way, but evidence shows "many" do think that way. Don't forget that Cindy said, " Casey needed time to bond with her child". That tells me that Casey didn't have that bond with Caylee like most women would have, even after 3 yrs. Knowing that she didn't have a bond with Caylee, and hearing Casey's OWN WORDS..."OMG, all you guys care about is Caylee". WOW...this woman is self-centered beyond belief! EVEN, if your theory is correct that someone else has Caylee; Casey DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN WHERE HER CHILD IS.
Yes, she will continue to deny, just like Scott Peterson and MANY OTHERS. Scott and Susan both had other options, but they both chose what they did in their OWN SICK MINDS.
All we have seen is the first statements of these people, in this case. They keep saying on the programs that many of Casey's friends said Casey ALWAYS talked about how her life would be different if she didn't have Caylee; she would be able to go wherever she wanted to and do what she wanted. She wouldn't have to miss any more parties. ANOTHER RED FLAG!
Ricardo and Amy both said Casey was looking for a "way out" of her families home. She was clearly looking for a way to get AWAY FROM HER PARENTS. Well, she's with them now, but she will get her wish, soon, but I don't think it will be the way she wanted it to be.

Prostitute? Can't sell what you give away FREE !

There is a vigil taking place at the Anthony's right now, as well as man protestors. I have the webcam up. http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam....

Because of the storms and all of the water, Equusearch had to suspend their searches until the weather clears up and things dry up a little bit. Over 1,000 searchers cam out this weekend.

CIndy was apparently yelling at protestors to get off their butts and go look for Caylee. George shoved one guy right out into the street, and Lee came out to pull his dad off this guy.

George and Cindy were very concerned that their police taping roping off their yard was knocked down, so they spent some time today putting back up. Why aren't they out looking for Caylee?

Sorry, police tape.

Gail in Wyoming wrote:

Sorry, police tape.

I thought it looked like they put new tape up, wasn't sure. I wonder how they are going to cut their grass now...lol.

I feel sorry for the neighbors that have to deal with this every day, but that's Casey's doing, and Cindy's. I wonder if Casey is even in the house, maybe they sneeked her off to another location right in the beginning, with permission. Has anybody seen her come out at all to go to Mr. Baez's office, like she did before? I know he's been to the house, but usually she goes to him. Maybe she doesn't have big body guards around the clock.

I guess the police was out there all last night keeping protesters in order. They even said some woman dropped off roses at the front door...for what...Grandparents Day...hope not.

So George is losing it again, is he? I want to believe those parents didn't have anything to do with it, but I don't know. Maybe they just have so much guilt thinking they drove Casey to do something stupid and now they are trying to make up for it.

Are you sure those are real people in that cam and not just those cut-outs? Mine haven't moved an inch, how can they stand so still?

TLC1000 wrote:

Are you sure those are real people in that cam and not just those cut-outs? Mine haven't moved an inch, how can they stand so still?

My cam was stuck a lot yesterday. The people on the FLorida forum were saying that, too. I had to bounce out a couple of times and go back in.

Come to think of it, nobody on that forum said anything about seeing Casey. Interesting.

who cares - enough about this story already. There are tens of thousands of missing children all over the country whose stories don't get covered.

OK west michigan - are you stupid or what! I understand that alot of unfortunate kids are missing or abused! The reason that this took and is getting alot of attention is because of the wierd vibes that all were getting from the get go!!! to get in the minds of a crazed lier and possible murderer, will only help others.
If you think that enough is enough - why did you click on this forum loser B----! You just basically slammed your own peepee in the door! ouch!!
go talk on another forum ---- we don't want you here! go play in the sandbox alone!!!

Apparently, the Channel 6 news in Florida reported that the 65 year old woman George pushed toward the street, pressed charges against him. The case was turned over to the Florida State Attorney's Office for possible prosecution and arrest. Oh yeah, George had a hammer in his hand at the time.

I think he's losing it.

Gail in Wyoming wrote:

Apparently, the Channel 6 news in Florida reported that the 65 year old woman George pushed toward the street, pressed charges against him. The case was turned over to the Florida State Attorney's Office for possible prosecution and arrest. Oh yeah, George had a hammer in his hand at the time.
I think he's losing it.

http://daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/a...
Heres a video if you are able to watch & I agree I think hes losing it. It's sad really all of this could be avoided if Casey would just tell the truth. Shes putting those people through hell & turning them all into criminals. Yes they are responsible for their own actions. but that smug little spoiled brat could put an end to it all. she chooses not too.

Gail in Wyoming wrote:

Apparently, the Channel 6 news in Florida reported that the 65 year old woman George pushed toward the street, pressed charges against him. The case was turned over to the Florida State Attorney's Office for possible prosecution and arrest. Oh yeah, George had a hammer in his hand at the time.
I think he's losing it.

I noticed George had the hammer in his hand when he pushed the guy, but Lee had taken the hammer away from him before he pushed the woman; good thing. Lee was obviously worried that his dad might do something stupid.

I think this whole case "stinks", but I don't really understand the protestor's standing at their home. Maybe they could just stand at nearby busy street corners, or in front of Mr. Baez's office. They were in his driveway. Besides, how does doing this get "GOOD" media attention to this case. If they HAVE to stand there in front of the house, then do it on the sidewalk across the street, with the biggest signs you can make, but try not to interrupt the other neighbors, I think. It's just making the neighbors stand up for Cindy and George, and making them the victims instead of Caylee.

But it's true, the ultimate person responsible is Casey. They should have left her in jail, wouldn't have this problem. Casey doesn't care what this is doing to her parents; not for one moment !

outdoors lover wrote:

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http://daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/a...
Heres a video if you are able to watch & I agree I think hes losing it. It's sad really all of this could be avoided if Casey would just tell the truth. Shes putting those people through hell & turning them all into criminals. Yes they are responsible for their own actions. but that smug little spoiled brat could put an end to it all. she chooses not too.

Thanks for the link. It looks like Lee is trying his best to keep his mom and dad from getting in more trouble. George is losing it.