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Atreides
Grand Rapids, MI
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RMRK wrote: <quoted text> Factually incorrect. Opiods can deafen you... pot can't. Opiods can ause liver failure, kidney failure, cardio-pulminary disease... pot can't. Pot can make you fat... if you lack self control when you get the munchies. Pot can make you lazy / amotivational. SOooo... Pot can make you fat and lazy, and Opiods can kill you!!! Let me repeat... OPIODS CAN KILL YOU!!! I get it that you are an avid Pot hater, and that the use of Pot is invalid regardless of circumstances. However, let's kep things in the real world. You are making a poor arguement. I've never wrote that there is nothing worse than pot. Yes, opiods are worse than pot. That however does not make pot 'safe' either. Once again, facts are facts and neither your passion nor mine will change that.
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Atreides
Grand Rapids, MI
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You must be smoking wrote: I smoked pot for over 20 years. For some of that period, I smoked almost every day. I just got tired of it and quit. When I quit there was no withdrawal symptoms or anything. I just stopped. I had more trouble quitting tobacco, which I have. Much more. So for me to believe that Marijuana is addictive I would say no. Not based on my research, but as a smoker. Both do harm to your breathing, so to ease symptoms from something you do make a trade. Still should be your choice. Congrats! You didn't get hooked. Some people in the 80's did cocaine and didn't get addicted either. So, when they stopped, they had no side effects and it was a simple matter of just quitting. On the other hand, some people did get hooked and had trouble getting clean.
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Michelle
Grand Rapids, MI
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I think this would be the best thing for us. I love the idea. They can tax it like Cigs, make their money on it, plus all the jobs it would bring in. I know people out in California are getting PAID by the government to grow this medical marijuana for them, and its a great idea. Marijuana is a wayy better drug than alcohol AND Cigarettes. There have been studies that cannot link lung Cancer and marijuana, and if anything, it helps to reduce the chance of getting lung cancer. There have NEVER been ANY deaths caused by pot, and if so, its because it was laced with something. The war on drugs needs to let pot go, and go after the hard ones like heroin and cocain, meth and PCP... Theres a lot worse out there, and Marijuana just has a bad rep. VOTE Yes to medical marijuana! Nov. 4th
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Praying For Justice
AOL
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Actually, how many of you know that hemp actually helps cure cancer? In studies done in the early 70's, results revealed that it shrinks cancerous tumors. But do not take my word for it, but do your own research. I actually wrote an essay on this for one of my holistic health care classes. The FDA does not want you to know this because everyone would be smoking it to help cure their cancer. The FDA is tied in heavy with Big pharma, the AMA and the ACS. Billions of $$$$ would be lost if people only knew that hemp is one of the many traditional cancer cures. I take hemp protein powder on a daily basis to keep my cells in top shape and because it is one of the best plant protein sources that you can consume. it is loaded with all of the essential and non essential amino acids, it keeps your arteries cleared out, it is high in magnesium, which regulates over 300 metabolic functions in the body alone. magnesium is vital for a regular heart rythm. i could go on, but I want you to do your own research. By the way, my hemp protein isnot high in the THC that regular hemp is. I may feel on top of this world, but i do not get a buzz. Hope this helps. take charge of your own wellbeing! www.naturalnews.com is a great place to get started.
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“Why so serious?”
Joined: Aug 6, 2008
Comments: 498
Grand Rapids, MI
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VOTE YES!!! everyone. Let's save jail space for the REAL criminals.
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Allegan Redneck
Holland, MI
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Atreides wrote: <quoted text> Congrats! You didn't get hooked. Some people in the 80's did cocaine and didn't get addicted either. So, when they stopped, they had no side effects and it was a simple matter of just quitting. On the other hand, some people did get hooked and had trouble getting clean. If you think some people did coke in the 80's and did'nt get addicted then you were'nt there...
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Joined: Jun 21, 2008
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Caledonia, MI
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Morris E Smith wrote: VOTE YES!!! everyone. Let's save jail space for the REAL criminals. Yeah, like folks from AIG who thought it'd be a swell idea to dupe our government into giving them OUR money to party it up with... I suppose we'll be footing their bill either way. Send them to jail and we still have to pay to feed, clothe, and house them. We're screwed either way.
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“peace”
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
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Grand Rapids, MI
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I wish I could vote it mandatory for some people, so they would just lighten up a bit. Life is too short. :)
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Allegan Redneck
Holland, MI
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Twenty years ago I had a mentor named Joe R. He very much contributed to the strength of character I am blessed to have today. Joe was drafted into the Army at 19, became an infantrymen, and was sent to Vietnam in 1968. He and I were friends for about two years before he ever even mentioned his experiences in the war. But eventually I learned he did not much want to be there and wondered if he should have run to Canada, he was bored a lot and scared most of the time. Joe did his job (more than did his job)and returned home after being wounded the third time. He was shot once, caught grenade shrapnel another time, and nearly lost his legs from burns when a Viet Cong rocket detonated a 55 gal. drum of White Phosporous near him, his best buddy was vaporized in that incident. Joe came home with a Purple Heart with Clusters, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star for Valor. He also came home with Cancer from agent orange but didn't know it. It wasn't until 1986 that he had this cough that wouldn't go away, so he went to the VA. They found a five pound tumor in his lung. Even though they removed it, Joe was fully metastasized at that point and even with chemo and radiation the doctors said he'd be lucky to live six months. Joe lasted 20 months and it was very, very painful. I feel guilty that I was very worried he would ask me to shoot him or help him OD on his morphine meds, he didn't thank God because I don't know if I could've done it. Joe died on a Tuesday morning in March 1988. Three months later I was at MCRD becoming a Marine. The only thing that helped Joe, especially toward the end was smoking pot. It kept his appetite up and seemed to help with the constant pain he was in. Near the very end I had to hold the pipe to his lips. In short yeah, I'll be voting in favor of this. Thanks for listening...
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Joined: Jun 21, 2008
Comments: 170
Caledonia, MI
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Allegan Redneck wrote: Twenty years ago I had a mentor named Joe R. He very much contributed to the strength of character I am blessed to have today. Joe was drafted into the Army at 19, became an infantrymen, and was sent to Vietnam in 1968. He and I were friends for about two years before he ever even mentioned his experiences in the war. But eventually I learned he did not much want to be there and wondered if he should have run to Canada, he was bored a lot and scared most of the time. Joe did his job (more than did his job)and returned home after being wounded the third time. He was shot once, caught grenade shrapnel another time, and nearly lost his legs from burns when a Viet Cong rocket detonated a 55 gal. drum of White Phosporous near him, his best buddy was vaporized in that incident. Joe came home with a Purple Heart with Clusters, a Bronze Star, and a Silver Star for Valor. He also came home with Cancer from agent orange but didn't know it. It wasn't until 1986 that he had this cough that wouldn't go away, so he went to the VA. They found a five pound tumor in his lung. Even though they removed it, Joe was fully metastasized at that point and even with chemo and radiation the doctors said he'd be lucky to live six months. Joe lasted 20 months and it was very, very painful. I feel guilty that I was very worried he would ask me to shoot him or help him OD on his morphine meds, he didn't thank God because I don't know if I could've done it. Joe died on a Tuesday morning in March 1988. Three months later I was at MCRD becoming a Marine. The only thing that helped Joe, especially toward the end was smoking pot. It kept his appetite up and seemed to help with the constant pain he was in. Near the very end I had to hold the pipe to his lips. In short yeah, I'll be voting in favor of this. Thanks for listening... Wow, what a bittersweet story. Such a horrible way for anyone to die. I'm sorry it happened to your friend. He sounds like he was a great guy. I too, know the horror of watching a loved one die a long death full of pain. I am voting in favor of this as well. I pray it passes. It's desperatly needed and long overdue.
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Allegan Redneck
Holland, MI
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Give it a rest2 wrote: <quoted text> Wow, what a bittersweet story. Such a horrible way for anyone to die. I'm sorry it happened to your friend. He sounds like he was a great guy. I too, know the horror of watching a loved one die a long death full of pain. I am voting in favor of this as well. I pray it passes. It's desperatly needed and long overdue. Thank You and I'm sorry for you're loss as well. Joe wasn't a great guy he was just a guy, know what I mean? He was great in my eyes I suppose, he did do some amazing things...He let me read his Silver Star commendation once and his actions were beyond heroic. I remember teasing him, "No way this was YOU!" lol. Thank You again for listening, it's been too long since I thought of him. I don't want to talk anymore though. Yeah, pray for this to pass. There's too much suffering in the world, maybe this can stem a little of it... Hey Joe, I said "stem" get-it?:-) Semper Fi my brother, I miss you man
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say what
Grand Rapids, MI
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Allegan Redneck wrote: <quoted text> Thank You and I'm sorry for you're loss as well. Joe wasn't a great guy he was just a guy, know what I mean? He was great in my eyes I suppose, he did do some amazing things...He let me read his Silver Star commendation once and his actions were beyond heroic. I remember teasing him, "No way this was YOU!" lol. Thank You again for listening, it's been too long since I thought of him. I don't want to talk anymore though. Yeah, pray for this to pass. There's too much suffering in the world, maybe this can stem a little of it... Hey Joe, I said "stem" get-it?:-) Semper Fi my brother, I miss you man Sorry to hear about your friend, but today the chemical that your friend found helpful in smoking pot is legally available in pill form by prescription, so legalinzing it for that reason alone is unnecessary.
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Atreides
Jenison, MI
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Allegan Redneck wrote: <quoted text> If you think some people did coke in the 80's and did'nt get addicted then you were'nt there... Just because something is labeled as an addictive substance does not mean that everyone who uses that substance actually GETS addictted. Alcohol is an addictive substance, however, many people drink alcohol but don't become alcholic. The same thing is true for cocaine. It is an addictive substance, and it is a dangerous drug no doubt. However, there are those who have used cocaine who lucky for them did not become addictted to it. Why? We don't know the answers to that at this time. Medical research hasn't unlocked that at this time.
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Joined: Sep 30, 2008
Comments: 33
Little Rock, AR
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The only thing that makes me hesitant with voting Yes, would be the fact of abusing it. How long will it take, before word gets out that certain doctors are more tolerant on passing out the doctor slips than others? I have friends who smoke pot, where as my husband & I don't. I understand how it can make you feel different, ease pain, etc. My only concern are the people who would abuse the system.
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“peace”
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Comments: 861
Grand Rapids, MI
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If someone is prescribed marijuana, that usually means they are in some real pain. Don't you think the patient knows what helps best? And from some of these stories, I would say let them smoke it 24/7! Hell, make them some brownies for goodness sake! If you are worried about abuse, the majority of the people who would use it are terminal anyways. It's just a nice way to work up an appetite, and have some pain relief, without all the pills that are filled with addictive chemicals themselves. Just because pills are legal, does not make them better or less addictive. I would have to say it is the opposite for the most part. Let the patients decide for themselves, or at least have a choice in the matter.
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MomaMarie
Grand Rapids, MI
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I to have my concerns about this issue, However I feel the bennefits outweigh my concerns. I will be voting yes on prop 1.
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Atreides
Grand Rapids, MI
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Firefighters_wife wrote: The only thing that makes me hesitant with voting Yes, would be the fact of abusing it. How long will it take, before word gets out that certain doctors are more tolerant on passing out the doctor slips than others? I have friends who smoke pot, where as my husband & I don't. I understand how it can make you feel different, ease pain, etc. My only concern are the people who would abuse the system. You are right to be concerned. In California it is now legal to prescribe marijuna for pain. Students with 'chronic' knee pain are requesting marijuana for 'treatment', getting the medical script and then coming to school high and the school is nearly powerless to do anything unless the student becomes disruptive. Yes, your instincts are correct. There WILl be abuses. What small benefits might be realized by allowing this, do not out weight the social harm this will do. Vote NO.
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Atreides
Jenison, MI
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Amazarak wrote: If someone is prescribed marijuana, that usually means they are in some real pain. Don't you think the patient knows what helps best? And from some of these stories, I would say let them smoke it 24/7! Hell, make them some brownies for goodness sake! If you are worried about abuse, the majority of the people who would use it are terminal anyways. It's just a nice way to work up an appetite, and have some pain relief, without all the pills that are filled with addictive chemicals themselves. Just because pills are legal, does not make them better or less addictive. I would have to say it is the opposite for the most part. Let the patients decide for themselves, or at least have a choice in the matter. Whoops, so now you are AGAINST the pills because the might be addictive? I thought you said since it was only used at the end of the person's life [terminal anyways...] that addiction wasn't an issue? Marijuna has in it an inconsitent amount of chemicals that have unknown interations with the prescribed medicines that the person is already taking. So, smoking something of unknown chemical background and mixing that with potent perscriptions, you think that's SAFER than working with the known chemicals with manufactored medications? Seems to me you are smoking something just a bit too soon, it ain't legal yet!
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Joined: Sep 30, 2008
Comments: 33
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Atreides wrote: <quoted text> You are right to be concerned. In California it is now legal to prescribe marijuna for pain. Students with 'chronic' knee pain are requesting marijuana for 'treatment', getting the medical script and then coming to school high and the school is nearly powerless to do anything unless the student becomes disruptive. Yes, your instincts are correct. There WILl be abuses. What small benefits might be realized by allowing this, do not out weight the social harm this will do. Vote NO. Thank you, for the informative reply. I'm still on the fence though, about this proposal. I hope that I am informed of how they plan on regulating the prescriptions. Thanks, again!
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“peace”
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Comments: 861
Grand Rapids, MI
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Atreides wrote: <quoted text> Whoops, so now you are AGAINST the pills because the might be addictive? I thought you said since it was only used at the end of the person's life [terminal anyways...] that addiction wasn't an issue? Marijuna has in it an inconsitent amount of chemicals that have unknown interations with the prescribed medicines that the person is already taking. So, smoking something of unknown chemical background and mixing that with potent perscriptions, you think that's SAFER than working with the known chemicals with manufactored medications? Seems to me you are smoking something just a bit too soon, it ain't legal yet! It should be left up to the patient and their doctor. I don't believe I have EVER heard of anyone having an adverse reaction to pot and pills taken together. You are really digging. Seems to me like you should be smoking something. Let people decide for themselves.
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