'Fire rainbow' seen in West Michigan sky

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k9 forever wrote:

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And I fully agree with that. I believe, if interpreting your quoting of me, and the tone of your reply, that you have mis-understood my point. But then, I could be interpreting your response incorrectly. One needs to be a little defensive posting in here with some of the people present.
God has been under attack for years. People say we are fighting a “holy war” over in the Middle East, yet we are fighting our own “holy civil war” here in the states. This was supposed to be the land our ancestors’ came to for religious freedom. Maybe one day we will once again be the land of freedom for all, and not just a few.

Sarah C wrote:

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I am sorry K9, I wasn't speaking about you. I was agreeing with your post and adding on, with my two-sense. LOL. I should have clarified. I know that postings can all be taken the wrong way. I am just very passionate about this. I was speaking to others who wonder why our world is so screwed up.
Have a great Monday!

todd wrote:

I seen this today going down 131 south at 10 mile I called a co-worker to go out side to look and he could not see it. It look like it was right above Grand Rapids. At frist I though it was my sun glasses playing games with me. Also grow up you rainbow warriors.

Amazing wrote:

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Why is it that so many people use the term "seen" in the incorrect context? i.e. "I seen that..."
Your statement should have been written as follows: "I saw this today while I was traveling down US 131...."

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Sarah C wrote:

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Why do you think our country has gone downhill? Because GOD was taken out of EVERYTHING! You know, that schools no longer do the Pledge of Allegience?? That really bothers me. My 8 yr old has no idea what the flag means as I did at that age. I believe they stopped it because of the line "One nation under God." And it is "those" types of people/parents who complain to the schools. I am sorry, but this country was founded on God and now, it is a problem for everyone. What more do you expect? No one wants to hear His name or believe, but when something happens, those are the first ones to ask, "Where is God when this happens?" You tell me...

Alfred wrote:

If it was over Holland, then it means the republican party will win the election.

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But, since you choose not to believe in Him, you will just ridicule my and other's beliefs. Someday we'll both know who was right and who was wrong.

Redneck Weatherman wrote:

This is known as a Sun-Dog or parhelion. Where did fire rainbow come from?????

SkookumButte wrote:

It might have been god, or it might have been the light in the visible spectrum being scattered by ice crystals of particular shapes and orientations to both the incoming light and the observer. Since there are many different shapes of ice crystals, there are many different geometric configurations the scattered light might take in the atmosphere. For this particular event, when the arc is parallel to the horizon, there is a particular crystal shape and particular angle of the sun needed to scatter the light in that pattern. Sort of like the pendant hanging on your car's rearview mirror... you get different starbursts from different sides and angles. If you choose to believe that the light and ice were the tools god used to create the display, that's your privilege, of course. Of course, maybe it was just the spaghetti monster whipping a noodle in the breeze. Or Zeus flinging paint from his canvas on Mt Olympus. I'll go with the simplest explanation of ice crystals acting as prisms. That doesn't decrease the awe for me, but increases it. Truth is beauty, and the way this place works is pretty awesome. Why rely on a supernatural force to explain it?

rjhall wrote:

<quoted text>I'm sorry but "under God" and "In God We Trust" were all slogans and things created in the 1950s during the Cold War to show the USSR we were a religious nation. There is more history of not having those phrases in out pledge and on our coinage than there is with it. As such it should be taken off the money and out of the pledge to restore our country to the way the founding fathers intended it to be.

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<quoted text>yeah,we always called them sun dogs.very pretty.

God wrote:

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I think you might have your facts off a little. First one, "under God" was started by the Knights of Columbus in New York, not because of the USSR, but because they felt it was incomplete without a "deity". A bill was introduced to the House to add this in 1953 by our own Rep from Michigan Louis Rabaut. Next, the "In God We Trust" was first put on a US coin in 1883 on the 5cent coin. Hopes this helps you out a little. I will see you around.

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Actually, if you're right (believing that we have ever-lasting souls) then we will both know that, but if I'm right (believing that we don't) then neither of us ever will.
You do believe in evolution don't you? So where is the line demarcating those with souls from those without? Think about it... since we evolved from slime, then some number of generations back god must have decided to install the first soul, right? After all, slime doesn't have a soul, does it? So if slime eventually evolved into worms, and things like worms eventually evolved into things with spines like salamanders, and salamanders and the like became reptiles able to live their whole lives on land, and reptiles eventually gave rise to mammals, and mammals became further specialized into things like squirrels, dogs, cats, and primates.... eventually primates gave rise to cavemen (and cavewomen).... and eventually our cave dwelling ancestors became us.....
Along the way, god seems to have decided that we were sufficiently unlike slime and sufficiently like him for god to decide to install the first soul. That means somewhere along the way, some kid got a soul even though his or her parents did not.
If I believed this story, I'd sure feel like that kid's mom and dad got the short end of the stick.
Any thoughts?
I suppose you'll take the catholic approach and say evolution is devinely inspired and the first soul is a mystery, or you'll fall back on the belief that god (or the spaghetti monster or Zeus) created everything as an act of supernatural will.
I'll stick with the soul-free explanations found in the basic truths of chemistry, physics, and thermodynamics. And in those truths there's Great Beauty, and sufficient critical thinking to defend the vision of the Founders that we are first and foremost a nation of thoughtful truthseekers.