<quoted text> She is the one and only one that pushed him over the edge with her actions - all her actions! So yes, should she have been more civilized - this outcome may have been totally different. Should at least try to be friends after a divorce for the kids - be civil - not have affairs to shove in your spouse's face!! Ever been cheated on? If not, then you don't know the pain - but Ken found out the pain.
DeKleine sentenced to life in prison
- Posted in the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan Forum
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I have been cheated on. I caught my soon to be ex-husband on three different occassions, all with different women - twice in our bed. I agree that she should have been more civilized, but both were nasty to each other throughout the divorce. All I'm saying is that she didn't deserve to die. Like I said, many people are cheated on every day. It hurts, but it doesn't give you a right to murder someone. If he was that close to the edge, it was his responsibility to seek help. And no one cares to talk about the fact that he left her for his children to find. Did she push him towards that? Don't think so. This didn't necessitate murder. And there is no excuse it.
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If it was that he snapped, he would show remorse. Saying that he sleeps better now that he killed her - that's not someone who snapped. If he snapped, he wouldn't have planned it like he did. People who snap do it in the heat of passion. This had a lot of thought put into it.
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Remember the cop who killed his wife the Judge. Her lifestyle, her greed (take him for all he is worth attitude) got her killed to. So you women keep pushing the men and watch out for the consequences. I have seen too many men get screwed by lazy, greedy, selfish woman. I knew this cop and she pushed and pushed and pushed - till he snapped!
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Oh I suppose you work in mental health now - not - but I do. No emotions should tell ya something - good grief!! |
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So what does that show his children. That instead of learning how to deal with it with dignity you just snap and kill someone and leave them for your children to find. Just because she was acting a certain way doesn't constitue him murdering her. I bet you also say that women that dress a certain way deserve to get assaulted.
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Judged:
1 Three different occasions with different women. Sounds like you need help - should have left after the first one - have some dignity girl!! |
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And I knew her, and it wasn't deserved. Any reasonable human being knows it too. Having someone cheat on you, or say bad things about you, that doesn't mean you get to kill them. The cop who killed his wife the judge is just as bad. He didn't snap, and you know it. He planned this. I don't care if she was cheating, or wanted all of the money - it doesn't mean that she deserved to be killed. My ex-husband cheated, stole my paycheck right out of my purse, bought his girlfriend some nice things from Victoria's Secret with my credit card, but I didn't and wouldn't kill him. He is a cold blooded killer, bottom line. It was premeditated. Again - people who snap don't plan the crimes they commit.
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Hence soon to be ex-husband. You asked if I knew how it felt to be cheated on - I answered. You don't need to attack me personally. Apparently you haven't been in that situation, because you try to keep your family together.
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If you knew her then you know all the sordid details of her lifestyle (I know more than I care to know actually )and yes he did snap meeting with his lawyer, going to a couple bars and finally not being to take anymore of her crap, greed, etc - it was not premeditated - he left the bar, went to the courthouse and that is all she wrote. Had she been civil she would be alive. Not to mention the greed - she made good money - but she wanted all his and then some. |
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only if they are hooking for a living and that is there choice and a good chance of being assaulted in that choosen profession! |
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And dignity would be what - killing him like your buddy did to his wife? I think not. I tried to keep my family together, it didn't work, lesson learned. No one died from it, though.
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Judged:
1 Yeah I was there once and that was plenty. Keeping your family together in that atmosphere - right!! Good one!! Not attacking - just common sense. Once should have been enough for any woman. |
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Once is enough, but you also want to trust. And it wasn't over several years - it was in quick succession, so it ended. First marriage, high school sweetheart, not easy to walk away. But my decision, and it was a lesson learned. Some take it for longer than others, although definitely wouldn't happen that way next time! But it looks like we're really good at arguing about anything we discuss. I don't think the DeKleine situation was right, you think she pushed him.(Probably because each knows one side better than the other.) You got rid of them after cheating once, I didn't. Agree to disagree? I feel like we're beating a dead horse and going in circles. Have a good one!
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Yup that's why everyone has their own opinion. Well you have a good day to and call you ex to be a scum bag for me!! Hope you bounce back. |
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Joined: Jul 15, 2008 Comments: 31 Grand Haven ISP: Middleville, MI |
Not that it should matter, but Lori wasn't the only one having an affair.
Ken was carrying on a sexual relationship of his own. His lover actually testified for the prosecution during the trial. Ken does not hold any kind of moral high ground in this issue... And he certainly had no justifiable reason for killing her. I've been cheated on by girlfriends more times than I can easily remember. But I've never had the urge to do physical harm to the woman I was dating. I just left the relationship.... In time, the anger passed. |
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“cold weather...sucks: (” Joined: May 12, 2008 Comments: 669 Muskegon,MI ISP: Muskegon, MI |
If that is love...... He did not love his children...are you blind? If he loved his kids, he would NOT have KILLED their mother and then left her there to be found by them(one of them)! That is not love. |
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“cold weather...sucks: (” Joined: May 12, 2008 Comments: 669 Muskegon,MI ISP: Muskegon, MI |
SUE:
Pushing and pushing, being 'greedy', cheating on someone....those are not grounds for murder. |
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“cold weather...sucks: (” Joined: May 12, 2008 Comments: 669 Muskegon,MI ISP: Muskegon, MI |
Wrong. HE pushed himself over the edge. HE killed her. HE took his children's mother away. HE did this to himself. Now HE gets to ROT in prison. |
AMEN!! tHIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND FOR THOSE WHO JUDGE AND WANT THE DEATH PENALTY, I HOPE YOUR FAMILY MEMBER NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG LIKE THIS. YOU MAY BE EATING YOUR WORDS!!! |
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Open your eyes....obviously you aren't familiar with Michigan's legal system...its her word against his. All she has to do is SAY he did something,thats all it unfortunately takes here to ruin someone's life...As Sue stated, had she handled this differently, the outcome likely would have been different.Again, what he did was not right, but when he felt he had nothing to lose, perhaps he felt spending life locked up was the better option. Don't blame the HPD....remember, only Ken knows what really happened, not you or I...
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