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Fred
Wayland, MI
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PPO for some reason doesn't only work. You have a paper that tells someone to stay away. Unfortunetely this doesn't happen. It just takes to long for help to arrive when someone violates that PPO. Sad thing is that in Ken's mind, he thought he was doing her a favor?? Tell just how sick he really is.... Those poor kids, they lost both of their parents
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Fred
Wayland, MI
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PPO's for some reason doesn't always work. You have a paper that tells someone to stay away. Unfortunetely this doesn't happen. It just takes to long for help to arrive when someone violates that PPO. Sad thing is that in Ken's mind, he thought he was doing her a favor?? Tell just how sick he really is.... Those poor kids, they lost both of their parents
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Grand Haven
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Grand Haven, MI
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Unbelievable wrote: I agree we should have the death penalty for cases like this. When we all have the chance to vote for a new govenor we really need to CHANGE things. From the death penalty to welfare reform to gang bangers to unemployment etc. We need to take back MICHIGAN!!!! The prohibition on the death penalty is written directly into the Michigan Constitution of 1963. As such, it would take much more than gubernatorial support to re-establish capital punishment in Michigan. It would take an amendment to the state constitution. Have fun getting one of those passed in this political climate.
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old_timer
Muskegon, MI
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pedaltothemetal wrote: I agree with the father, the Holland police department really drop the ball on this one. But what is done is done, he got put away forever thats what counts. Plus he is still playing games with the family, he knew they wanted something from him, so he denied speaking, that will show em. Frankly I don't mind paying tax dollars to keep someone like this in jail. Holland isn't the only place that drops the ball on cases like this, it's been known to happen all over the country. Think it's refered to as "code of silence" and how they protect their own. Let's see how much fire that draws.
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Jed
Sedalia, OH
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Obviously he felt his choice offered better options than he had before. Again, what he did was wrong, but in Michigan, 95% of the time the man gets taken to the cleaners, while the woman is sitting good, time and time again....she was no saint, and whether or not any of you out there want to admit it either, the kids probably knew it too...not trying to justify his actions, but I;m guessing if the shoe was on the other foot, your reactions wouldn't be quite so strong. Still don't feel this should warrant a death penalty either...
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ann
Lamont, MI
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this kind of stuff goes in saginaw mi. all the time but you neaver hear about it. it is very corrupt over their. they hire people to kill other out thier.and it is a very heavy drug area. they even hire someone to kill sex offenders out thier. we dont hear about it at all. maybe news 8. should do a two or month story on it. we would like to hear it once. what goes on out thier. their is a sex offender out their now that is being tailed by a hit amn. hired by the woman, that put him in prison for something he did not do. she made up the whole story to frame himshe has hired a hit amn to kill simon trejo jr.
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pjdutchville
Hopkins, MI
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Ann...one word. HUH?
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DRT2322
Grand Rapids, MI
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Jed wrote: I disagree....perhaps if the justice system were a little less biased instead of always feeling sorry for the woman, this never would have happened. Perhaps Ken felt it was a better option, after his wife took out a PPO,likely tried to turn his kids against him, and was busy screwing her therapist, more than likely in HIS house...read the WHOLE STORY BEFORE you pass judgement..while what he did was wrong, it certainly doesn't warrant the death penalty....save that for the idiots in the jewelry store robbery in Grand Haven.<quoted text> You have got to be kidding me! This woman went to my church, and was a very active member. Her husband killed her! He probably had shown violent tendancies prior to murdering her, which is why she had to take a PPO out against him. And as for what she did with her therapist, he wasn't the most loyal man in his marriage. None of what she did warrants what happened to her. He knew what he was doing, and that it was wrong as he tried to cover it up. And to put their children through that. Heed your own advise and read the entire store before you post sexist and ignorant comments.
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apple
Jenison, MI
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she was asking for it.
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Sam
Grand Rapids, MI
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Jed wrote: ..while what he did was wrong, it certainly doesn't warrant the death penalty....save that for the idiots in the jewelry store robbery in Grand Haven.<quoted text> And the difference between the two stories is exactly WHAT in your opinion? He took a life for no good reason - as with the jewelry store robbers - FRY THE B*ST*RD - PERIOD!
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DRT2322
Grand Rapids, MI
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Why don't you try telling her kids that? Or the rest of her family? You have to be completely insane to honestly believe that this poor woman was asking to be strangled by her husband. If you honestly believe that, you deserve to rot your life away in prison, where you can't hurt anyone, with DeKliene. People like you are garbage. apple wrote: she was asking for it.
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Jed
Holland, MI
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Gotta agree with "Apple's" comment...Obviously you believe she walked on water and did no wrong. I'm guessing you are either A) a woman, or B) a man who has never been on the normal end of a michigan divorce...quit making assumptions about Ken..having been on the wrong side of a wrongful accusation, don't believe everything you hear...like I said before, what he did was wrong,but you can only push someone so far before they break. Keep living in your fairytale world...only Ken knows the truth...not you...pray for the family and move on, don't dwell on this...he's been punished. DRT2322 wrote: <quoted text> You have got to be kidding me! This woman went to my church, and was a very active member. Her husband killed her! He probably had shown violent tendancies prior to murdering her, which is why she had to take a PPO out against him. And as for what she did with her therapist, he wasn't the most loyal man in his marriage. None of what she did warrants what happened to her. He knew what he was doing, and that it was wrong as he tried to cover it up. And to put their children through that. Heed your own advise and read the entire store before you post sexist and ignorant comments.
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Apple
Jenison, MI
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WoW.Thanks Jed. This is the first time anyone has agreed with me on this forum. Just like when everyone said with Prince Clinton "how could he do that" You don't know whats going on in the bedroom or behind closed doors. Jed wrote: Gotta agree with "Apple's" comment...Obviously you believe she walked on water and did no wrong. I'm guessing you are either A) a woman, or B) a man who has never been on the normal end of a michigan divorce...quit making assumptions about Ken..having been on the wrong side of a wrongful accusation, don't believe everything you hear...like I said before, what he did was wrong,but you can only push someone so far before they break. Keep living in your fairytale world...only Ken knows the truth...not you...pray for the family and move on, don't dwell on this...he's been punished.<quoted text>
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DRT2322
Grand Rapids, MI
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Never once did I say that she was a saint. I'm sure that she did things that shouldn't have been done throughout their messy divorce, as did Ken. But it's completely ignorant to post a comment saying that she asked for it. No one deserves to be murdered. You're forgetting some pretty awful things about the situation as well - like that he left her for his children to find. Great parenting right there. He may have been punished, but not as he should have. He ended her life - forever changing the lifes of her children, family, and those who knew her. He still has his, and we all get to pay for it out of our checks. The worst part about it, is there is no remorse. And as for wrong ends of accusations, you have to have police reports to file a PPO. Sounds like there was something substantial to back up her need for protection.(Clearly - if he killed her.)And this isn't a fairytale world. Things like this happen, but it doesn't make them right. He is a murderer, bottom line. She may have said things about him that weren't true, as he did about her. That doesn't mean that she deserved to die. So go on and continue to defend someone who admitted to stealing the life of another, scarred his children by leaving her for them to find, and then shows no remorse whatsoever, and even claims to sleep better now that he killed her. Jed wrote: Gotta agree with "Apple's" comment...Obviously you believe she walked on water and did no wrong. I'm guessing you are either A) a woman, or B) a man who has never been on the normal end of a michigan divorce...quit making assumptions about Ken..having been on the wrong side of a wrongful accusation, don't believe everything you hear...like I said before, what he did was wrong,but you can only push someone so far before they break. Keep living in your fairytale world...only Ken knows the truth...not you...pray for the family and move on, don't dwell on this...he's been punished.<quoted text>
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WHY
Grand Rapids, MI
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There is a BLUE WALL. The chief should be fired too. Yes there are GOOD COPS, but how many times do they try to intimidate you, by tailgating your car, going fast on the highway without sirens or lights flashing. They break the law on the JOB. The police have to up hold the law too even on the job. They need college education, most of them don't! They need counseling to help their anger issues. remember that this is not cowboys and indians or TV cops and robbers. I love it when off duty cops wears their emblem to advertise they are cops. I think I should get a T shirt that says I am a DENTIST. Remember officers thank you for protecting us, but that is your job and you get paid hourly doing it. Get off your high horse.
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Sue
Grand Rapids, MI
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Jed wrote: Obviously he felt his choice offered better options than he had before. Again, what he did was wrong, but in Michigan, 95% of the time the man gets taken to the cleaners, while the woman is sitting good, time and time again....she was no saint, and whether or not any of you out there want to admit it either, the kids probably knew it too...not trying to justify his actions, but I;m guessing if the shoe was on the other foot, your reactions wouldn't be quite so strong. Still don't feel this should warrant a death penalty either... Agreed - she brought some of this on herself. Her greed, affairs, etc. PS. I am Sue - Jed is not!!!
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DRT2322
Grand Rapids, MI
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Greed and affairs don't equal death. Not condoning that type of behavior, but that doesn't mean that she brought it on herself. No one deserves to be murdered over that. All he had to do was walk away. But he didn't. He went to her house that night. He strangled her, and left her body for her children to find. No one deserves that - not because of a messy divorce. People get cheated on, have worse conflict in their divorces than Ken did every day, and they don't kill their spouse. It was a senseless crime, and she didn't deserve to die. I can't believe that there are actually people out there that actually think that she would deserve to die over this. It's crazy. Sue wrote: <quoted text>Agreed - she brought some of this on herself. Her greed, affairs, etc. PS. I am Sue - Jed is not!!!
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DRT2322
Grand Rapids, MI
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Also - her children didn't ask for this. Regardless of what their mother did, they do not deserve to have to go through this. If nothing else, that should have stopped Ken from doing what he did. Clearly he didn't care about the well being of children, and still doesn't from comments he continues to make about how proud he is of what he did.
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Sue
Grand Rapids, MI
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DRT2322 wrote: Greed and affairs don't equal death. Not condoning that type of behavior, but that doesn't mean that she brought it on herself. No one deserves to be murdered over that. All he had to do was walk away. But he didn't. He went to her house that night. He strangled her, and left her body for her children to find. No one deserves that - not because of a messy divorce. People get cheated on, have worse conflict in their divorces than Ken did every day, and they don't kill their spouse. It was a senseless crime, and she didn't deserve to die. I can't believe that there are actually people out there that actually think that she would deserve to die over this. It's crazy. <quoted text> She is the one and only one that pushed him over the edge with her actions - all her actions! So yes, should she have been more civilized - this outcome may have been totally different. Should at least try to be friends after a divorce for the kids - be civil - not have affairs to shove in your spouse's face!! Ever been cheated on? If not, then you don't know the pain - but Ken found out the pain.
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Sue
Grand Rapids, MI
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DRT2322 wrote: Also - her children didn't ask for this. Regardless of what their mother did, they do not deserve to have to go through this. If nothing else, that should have stopped Ken from doing what he did. Clearly he didn't care about the well being of children, and still doesn't from comments he continues to make about how proud he is of what he did. Clearly - he snapped!!! He loved his children and that was a big part of the problem (with her new lifestyle)
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