Passenger killed when car hits trees

Beans wrote:

<quoted text>No they're not perfect but they know better than to be out all night. When I was this kids age I wasn't perfect and did some stupid things too, but at 4:30am I was just getting up and getting ready for work at 5:00 am for a couple hours before school. Then going to school and working hard enough to graduate with honors, then back to work for a couple more hours and back home to do homework and to bed on time so I could get up and do the same thing the next day. I was raised to be responsible and still I had a great time with friends, but never needed a curfew because I was too busy to miss sleep.

Y ou ar e just so "Perfect" (sic). Hell I snuck out a few times my kids did the same sometimes they got caught sometimes they didnt , same as i did. I didnt graduate with honors i just graduated period that was good enough for me, i hated school. even after the army i couldnt bring myself to go back to school . but you probably were the "perfect" child and "never" did wrong.thats too bad you never experimented with being free just did as you were told i am sure. lucky you?

Now to the real matter my condolences to all that grieve the losses and I can bet that the driver wishes it was he who died.

What do you expect from the ultra conservative wing-nuts from GR. They probably voted for Bush too!

Elmer wrote:

What do you expect from the ultra conservative wing-nuts from GR. They probably voted for Bush too!

RIGHT ON BUDDY!!!!!!

All of you SICK SELF ABSORBED people that are leaving crude comments about Nick and his family, need to step back and think about how your ungrounded words will affect his family. Shame one the ones who don’t know Nick, yet judge him. The only one who has the right to judge him is God. So to all of the people who are leaving these heartless comment, you’ll be in my prayers. Let me tell you I knew Nick he was a good guy, not perfect but a person that would have his friends back. I remember woodshop was the best class of the day, because nick was always there to make me laugh. Soooo to all those people who have prejudge Nick, step away your computer and think about how you can help this distraught family instead of kicking them while their down.

musicmama wrote:

<quoted text> Let's start with the fact that these were kids who don't the life experience, driving experience or the maturity that the 40 something Mr. Hill SHOULD have had. In the eyes of the law they are not yet adults. Mr. Hill however IS an adult who is very well aware (as we all are as adults) that it is against the law to drink and drive. These kids were not drunk and physically impaired and unable to drive safely. And while it's true that teenagers should not be out driving at 4:30 in the morning they didn't willfully and knowingly get behind the wheel of that car disoriented and drunk.

i disagree-first of all in the eyes of the law the driver IS considered an adult(18yr), and while he may not have "willfully and knowingly got behind the wheel drunk", he did willfully and knowingly drive recklessly too fast and that is something an 18yr knows is dangerous. He took a gamble and lost. Yes an 18yr old is still immature and more impulsive than an older adult, that's why even though i feel both dangerous drivers are equally guilty and responsible for the death they caused, i would support the younger one getting a lighter sentence based on age/immaturity.

I live in OV, and from everything I'v heard, the driver was not drinking. Where did you read that??????????

The boys were not drinking!!!!!!!!

"penelopy" and "Mother in Delton"-Who said they were drinking?????

Barb wrote:

Why was this kid out at 4:30 a.m.? Shame on the parents.

Shame on you for being so cold.

They were not drinking, they were out stealing car stereos. And I also know Deb, Chad's mom. I agree with "i be me", Deb is only concerned for herself and her married boyfriend. She is not all about her kids. She is all about herself. She didn't even leave from up north until she heard it was critical. Then took her time getting home. And yes, I am sure had will live with this everyday for the rest of his life....

I think that the comments about where were the parents and why were these kids out at 4 am are cold hearted. Parents go to bed, knowing that their child is safe at home in bed. Teenagers sneak out and make some bad choices. You can't keep your children in a bubble and you can't watch them 24/7 no matter how hard you try. All you can do is guide them & hope they make good choices. The choices that teenagers make whether good or bad doesn't make their parents any less of a parent or that kid any less of a person b/c of the choice they made. All they can do is learn and grow from the decision they made. NOBODY IS PERFECT! My thoughts and prayers are with the Smith family and all of Nick's friends.

Orangeville parent wrote:

They were not drinking, they were out stealing car stereos. And I also know Deb, Chad's mom. I agree with "i be me", Deb is only concerned for herself and her married boyfriend. She is not all about her kids. She is all about herself. She didn't even leave from up north until she heard it was critical. Then took her time getting home. And yes, I am sure had will live with this everyday for the rest of his life....

First off I would like to say that I am sorry for the Smith family.

Second off Orangeville parent this is exactly how rumors get started, this is NOT about Deb and her "married boyfriend" it's about these three boys so try to stay focused!

I know Deb and what you call "her married boyfriend" very well, and I can tell you that you are wrong. I know for a FACT that as soon as they found out about the accident that they left, and come on do you think they are going to go 100mph on the way back and take more lives? How stupid are you? There was already one life lost, we don’t need more!
These post really show the ignorance of people did you all forget about when you were a teenager? Every one of us has done something that someone else won’t agree with or think is stupid, and all of us have those moments of doing something stupid it just happens that in this case a life was lost a young life. I think everyone on here that is quick to judge needs to take a look at their life and all the skeletons in their closets.
Orangeville parent are you sure that you know Deb? The Deb that I know cares for everyone that she meets, not just herself.

Yes I KNOW Deb. Maybe it is you that doesn't know her so well. I think more people would side with me about her than the Deb you claim to know. And I have seen 1st hand Deb and her married boyfriend on more than one occasion.
I think the worst decision I made as a teen was slacking off in school. I NEVER endangered the lives of my friends by driving reckless or anything of the such. I never stole anything.
And when I say took her time getting home I don't mean driving fast moran, I mean the second she heard her son was in a reck she should of left to come home. Not waited until she heard it was bad.
And the point of all this is maybe if she had morals, values, respect for others, then maybe she would of been able to teach that to her son.And maybe he would of made better decisions.
There is good in everybody and I have seen the good in Deb too, but I've seen the bad more than the good.
If you read all the comments in this blog, you find I am not the only one stating these things....

I believe this is not about Deb but more about the accident. Though the views about her may or may not be correct, at least stay on topic.

Orangeville parent and I be me, you two are toatally off base with your comments. You do not have the correct facts and this is not a gossip column! I would suggest that if you dont have anything better to say, then you say nothing. Our prayers go out to all families.

I certainly do not understand the mind set of some people. Why are you sitting there pointing fingers at Chad, his mom and Nick's parents. And what gives you the right saying that these boys were out stealing car stereo's. Stop concentrating on how BAD you say these people are and start concentrating no the fact that Chad, Justin and the entire Delton High School lost a friend and that Nick's parents lost their son. Nick was loved by many and will be missed by all. My heart goes out to Chad, Justin and their families.

Orangeville parent wrote:

Yes I KNOW Deb. Maybe it is you that doesn't know her so well. I think more people would side with me about her than the Deb you claim to know. And I have seen 1st hand Deb and her married boyfriend on more than one occasion.
I think the worst decision I made as a teen was slacking off in school. I NEVER endangered the lives of my friends by driving reckless or anything of the such. I never stole anything.
And when I say took her time getting home I don't mean driving fast moran, I mean the second she heard her son was in a reck she should of left to come home. Not waited until she heard it was bad.
And the point of all this is maybe if she had morals, values, respect for others, then maybe she would of been able to teach that to her son.And maybe he would of made better decisions.
There is good in everybody and I have seen the good in Deb too, but I've seen the bad more than the good.
If you read all the comments in this blog, you find I am not the only one stating these things....

So does that mean if I drive around with someone of the oppsite sex that I am sleeping with them? NO I dont think so!
Also miss/mr perfect do you really think sheltering your kids is going to keep them safe? I bet it makes them more wild than a teen who is not so sheltered! I would really like to know where it was that you got your "facts", because mine I got straight from the horses mouth! As I said they left as soon as they found out, did you know that it takes about two hours to drive back? So with that being said no they were not back at 7:45.

Good for Goose wrote:

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I so agree with this. Everyone wanted death penalty for the driver who "murdered" the 10 year old. So should this kid get the death penalty. He "murdered" his friend - not abiding by the law (speed)same as the other driver (drinking). Both made bad choices - one no better than the other!

I am Chad's cousin and I can't physically be there for him and it kills me. You can't even know the pain that he felt when he found out his friend was killed. He has to live with this everyday for the rest of his life! We can't begin to explain either of the 3 involved choices. I don't believe that pointing fingers and calling names will change anything. We need to physically take action.

Patti B wrote:

I knew Nick and I know Justin. They are fine boys. My oldest son is best friends with them all. Don't be so quick to judge his parents on their parenting skills. Bean & Barb, you have no idea what kind of parents the Smith's are and you have no idea as to what kind of child Nick was. All those boys are good kids and they do not deserve the discredit you are giving them. Chad and Justin are going to live with this for the rest of their lives. So will the rest of their friends. How can any of you shame the parents? It could have happened to any one of us! Right now the little town of Delton is mourning the loss of one of their own children. Keep your rude and crude comments to yourself and let the little town heal.

Thanks so much! Chad is my cousin and he will have to live with this the rest of his life. My Aunt his mother is also having to live with this for the rest of her life. Trust me she is not a bad parent and I thank you for your support. No words can express the amount of sorrow that I feel for every single person involved in this!