Police investigate alleged hazing in Niagara County

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BILL NY THE SCIENCE GUY wrote:

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o well said! your a loser

and again: its You're NOT your
are ya stoopid or sumpin?
Life is like a box of chocolates..

Did any of you know the Coaches were in Wilson Court on 5/13/08 evening?

I was driving by the town hall and saw the news cameras

First they said the arraignment date was to be on May 8, 2008, then it was May @0, 2008, and in reality it is May 13, 2008

Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "It's the kids that got violated or barbarically tortured, not the coaches. The coaches should have been doing their job. They should have been on the bus. In the back of the bus, paying attention to what was going on. That was their job and they didn't do it. It's not like they're being brought up on huge charges."

Scott Iles says someone put cardboard over the court windows to keep people from looking inside. He feels blame is being mis-directed at the media.

Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "The media being here I think is great. I think they should be here. They need to show what's going on so this doesn't happen to every other kid or every other town."

Hmmm,...supporters of the coaches placing cardboard over the courtroom windows, what useful tools!!!

First they said the arraignment date was to be on May 8, 2008, then it was May 20, 2008, and in reality it is May 13, 2008!

"Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "It's the kids that got violated or barbarically tortured, not the coaches. The coaches should have been doing their job. They should have been on the bus. In the back of the bus, paying attention to what was going on. That was their job and they didn't do it. It's not like they're being brought up on huge charges."

Scott Iles says someone put cardboard over the court windows to keep people from looking inside. He feels blame is being mis-directed at the media.

Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "The media being here I think is great. I think they should be here. They need to show what's going on so this doesn't happen to every other kid or every other town.""-WIVB

Hmmm,...supporters of the coaches placing cardboard over the courtroom windows, what useful tools!!!

It is interesting to note that all the individuals that support the two coaches look like ex-jocks. Maybe they would have been happier if the victims had instead decided to turn the Wilson high school into another Columbine. Maybe that would have been 'macho' enough for the neanderthals

I guess it's ironic, cardboard blinders in court, like the blinders the coaches were wearing on the bus. They also must have had the latest in noise reduction ear protection made out of fashion friendly cardboard as well.

Come on folks.....get real!

Schools are geared to be reactive, not pro-active.

2 coaches on a bus...they must have been sitting together holding hands up front with their ipods on!!!

They should have been placed one in the middle and one in back of the bus. Instead the kids had control of the bus; in this case...
No Supervision!!!
Makes you feel warm and safe doesn't it!

Shame on you coaches, shame on you!

moral of the story...don't lend your cell phone to guys from Wilson

First they said the arraignment date was to be on May 8, 2008, then it was May 20 or 22, 2008, and in reality it is May 13, 2008!
"Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "It's the kids that got violated or barbarically tortured, not the coaches. The coaches should have been doing their job. They should have been on the bus. In the back of the bus, paying attention to what was going on. That was their job and they didn't do it. It's not like they're being brought up on huge charges."
Scott Iles says someone put cardboard over the court windows to keep people from looking inside. He feels blame is being mis-directed at the media.
Scott Iles, Wilson resident, "The media being here I think is great. I think they should be here. They need to show what's going on so this doesn't happen to every other kid or every other town.""-WIVB
Hmmm,...supporters of the coaches placing cardboard over the courtroom windows, what useful tools!!!

Phil OMorf wrote:

It is interesting to note that all the individuals that support the two coaches look like ex-jocks. Maybe they would have been happier if the victims had instead decided to turn the Wilson high school into another Columbine. Maybe that would have been 'macho' enough for the neanderthals

It's nice to know that people have priorities, but how misplaced here. Coach worshipping and cover-up in the name of preserving a small town's "image" seems to be placed above the welfare of innocent children in Wilson, New York. Tell me it isn't so!

http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_st... Does anyone else see the whole thing just going away.....

When I watched the news this morning (wed. 5/14) and saw the interview with "Bob Hartz" I was agitated by his response. My question to him is, "Does he have any children?" because if he did I highly doubt he would react to the situtation as he did. That is just wonderful that the coaches are "nice people" but, they ARE responsible for the kids on that bus. Where in the heck were they when this was all going on. There job is to keep order and watch over the kids. They certainly did not do such a job! The parents of the children on the bus put the safety of the children into there(coahces) hands. what on earth were they to busy doing that they did not know what was going on?!

Are either of the coaches moonlighting at the airport for homeland security where a woman strolled unnoticed through an exit shutting down the boarding for hours?

mi4sons wrote:

http://www.lockportjournal.com /local/local_story_135013254.h tml Does anyone else see the whole thing just going away.....

As a wilson mom I see me screaming ...They can't just let this go away ...
And did we all see the other court last night Shermans ...His lawyer said The police had NO right to search him HELLO ...Lets see ROR to his parents ,from wilson court for SEXUAL ASSULT , out at appx.1:05 am on what should be a school night , RAN from the above said police man ,and when searched had DRUGS in his pocket ...POOR baby ...I personally believe the cops had evey right to seach him .And they probaly didn't even know who he was until they asked his name ...give me a break.....Lets se if he follows the Youngstown Hudges curfew

thats Judges = typing to fast for my fingers lol

we are missing the point, kids were involved and the entire community should be concerned about the children left in the hands of irresponsible adults. We send our children to school with the confidence that they will be safe. Now Wilson has given a new name to teachers & after school activities. How long has this been going on - and will it stop NOW

Concerned Grandparent wrote:

we are missing the point, kids were involved and the entire community should be concerned about the children left in the hands of irresponsible adults. We send our children to school with the confidence that they will be safe. Now Wilson has given a new name to teachers & after school activities. How long has this been going on - and will it stop NOW

I agree with you .One of my children was bullied for years ...And because every one at school was afriad of the other childs parents ?? My child had to deal with it for years .Until the other kid finally left Wilson..And some teachers who could have said YES we saw this happen > they looked the other way ...So I learned long ago the only person who cares about our kids is us. And I went to every one for help ...Because that was my opinion my CHILDREN should be safe in school...

Wilson Mom wrote:

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As a wilson mom I see me screaming ...They can't just let this go away ...
And did we all see the other court last night Shermans ...His lawyer said The police had NO right to search him HELLO ...Lets see ROR to his parents ,from wilson court for SEXUAL ASSULT , out at appx.1:05 am on what should be a school night , RAN from the above said police man ,and when searched had DRUGS in his pocket ...POOR baby ...I personally believe the cops had evey right to seach him .And they probaly didn't even know who he was until they asked his name ...give me a break.....Lets se if he follows the Youngstown Hudges curfew

HELLO - in the news article in paper, who cares what color shirt/tie this kid had on in Porter Court?
Deputies had every right to check these kids out since there has been recent theft/damage at KiPo Motors on Youngstown-Lockport Road. I thoroughly disagree with lawyer, they had no right to check these kids out. Wrong - Wrong - and of course as said before, where were this kids parents not knowing where their son was at that time of night after the previous charges put on him from school bus incident. Don't let this kid get off "juvenile offender".

CONCERNED WILSON RESIDENT wrote:

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HELLO - in the news article in paper, who cares what color shirt/tie this kid had on in Porter Court?
Deputies had every right to check these kids out since there has been recent theft/damage at KiPo Motors on Youngstown-Lockport Road. I thoroughly disagree with lawyer, they had no right to check these kids out. Wrong - Wrong - and of course as said before, where were this kids parents not knowing where their son was at that time of night after the previous charges put on him from school bus incident. Don't let this kid get off "juvenile offender".

I swear people are just NOT getting it ! Thanks for understanding what I was tring to say.
And Ya I was really glad to hear what color shirt he was wearing... How about the curfew Judge T set hummm Thats something I would like to know . I pray to God they try them ALL as adults.
And I pray their victums find peace and know that we support the VICTUMS not the "boys will be boys coaches "