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Police investigate alleged hazing in Niagara County

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#693
May 8, 2008
 
Wilson Parent wrote:
so now one of the 16 year old boys from ransomville that has been arrested for the abuse, was picked up yesterday on a drug possession charge. Nice.
You would have "thought " his parents would have ,had him in lock down...1:05 am on what should have been a school night . And $500 bail....He would still be sitting at Niagara County Jail. Which is where they should have ALL been since they where arrested for the alleged Sexual Abuse ... Read the Buffalo paper for the story. hydros and baggies of white powder ..And they allowed 2 other kids to walk away ...Personally I would have taken them home to Mom & Dad ..Just my opinion
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#694
May 8, 2008
 
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<quoted text>That is compeletely false. I happen to know for a fact that those acts were performed on the bus rides there and back, not in the rooms. But whatever the case, were talking about a kid getting a phone shoved in his anus. Not the music trip. C'mon ppl. Stuff happens. Big deal!
hey, wilson chaperone, bend over & i"ll shove a phone up your a**- like you say, stuff happens, no big deal!!!!!!!!!!
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#695
May 8, 2008
 
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As a mother of sports students from a different school, This is so outragous. These are high school children they should not need to be babysat on the buses. If I didnt have faith in how my children were taken care of on the buses I would drive them myself. I feel the coaches are receiving to harsh of a punishment for what? Not babysitting these kids. The kids are at fault, they knew what they were doing. Leave the coaches alone. Yes the boys shouldnt have done what they did but you cant watch high school kids 24/7
THEY ARE PAID to take care of children at every school function, that's why they're there. Have one of your kids get a cell phone shoved up their rear end and then we'll see what you think. As a matter of fact, let's do a study on you and see how you like it. The coaches were the adults on the bus, there to protect every kid, not just the stars. You need to grow up.
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#696
May 8, 2008
 
I would like to know why the bus driver hasn't been held accountable along with the coaches. I'm a school bus driver, and I am accountable for anything that occurs on my bus whether there are chaperones on or not!!!!
The bus driver should be charged as well.
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#697
May 8, 2008
 
This is to momstheone: You obviously have no idea of what kids are like these days. I drive school bus, let me tell you, the kids of today don't come close to being angels, especially the sports teams. There's an enormous amount of aggressivness, and that's why they have the chaperones on the bus. But the bus driver should also be in control of their bus, and pull it over and make those coaches do their jobs!!!
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May 8, 2008
 
momstheone wrote:
I also find it very hard to believe that a "cell phone" was used. As a medical personnel we all know that they can DNA test the phone and that the child would be screaming to draw the attention of someone. Even my kids have heard so many conflicting stories about this case, You should hear the stories. I think that there may have been alot of add ons about the abuse...I find it hard to believe that even as serious as hazing can get, This seriousness and accusations are so fabricated, but if they use DNA then the truth will come out and I hope All these kids can get the help they need and move forward...
The coaches werent being asked to watch them 24/7. They were expected to give reasonable attention to those in their care during a bus ride. They decided to turn a blind eye, and now must pay the price. The same as the actual perps. They are just as guilty for standing by and not doing a thing.

If it were your son, you would probably be feeling a lot differently about it.
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#699
May 8, 2008
 
Newfane Alumni wrote:
When these kids are aquitted you all are going to feel like scum...
Are you kidding me!!! You claim to be Newfane Alumni? I'm ashamed that someone who went to Newfane has no pride. Or is this why you relocated? Grow up. If these kids did the crime they aren't going to be acquitted! And they don't deserve to be. You deserve to be hung with these individuals too. Your a disgrace to Newfane.
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May 8, 2008
 
soozy wrote:
I would like to know why the bus driver hasn't been held accountable along with the coaches. I'm a school bus driver, and I am accountable for anything that occurs on my bus whether there are chaperones on or not!!!!
The bus driver should be charged as well.
I thought the same thing. What happened to ZERO TOLERANCE? Why didn't the driver pull over and investigate? If there was that much termoil on the bus that night, then the coaches and bus driver should have had things under control.
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#701
May 8, 2008
 
Anyone see the ch 4 news video on May 7th at 5 and 6 pm, about the (2) Troopers going into WCS and hear the remarks made by some of the locals? Check out that video, the man in the truck is a WELL KNOW - SMART "A" his son, had the gun at the homecoming football game, and got released to this "daddy"!! how nice!! great going Mr. K. wise, wilson needs more parents like you! No wonder we have kids who are getting messed up!! The kid you got got with the drugs in Ransomville, has grandparents who drive bus and his mother also drives, the circle is getting bigger my friends!

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May 8, 2008
 
Citizen of Ransomville wrote:
Anyone see the ch 4 news video on May 7th at 5 and 6 pm, about the (2) Troopers going into WCS and hear the remarks made by some of the locals? Check out that video, the man in the truck is a WELL KNOW - SMART "A" his son, had the gun at the homecoming football game, and got released to this "daddy"!! how nice!! great going Mr. K. wise, wilson needs more parents like you! No wonder we have kids who are getting messed up!! The kid you got got with the drugs in Ransomville, has grandparents who drive bus and his mother also drives, the circle is getting bigger my friends!
The paper doesn't say if they took the other 2 home or not ......
And so for the record Officers PLEASE , you catch one of my kids out at 1:05am with a kid with drugs and prier charges .Or even out that late alone > WAKE me up !!! Beat on my door ! That kid is 16 is is supposted to be in bed n a school night >>Not running from the law. I promise you won't see that childs smiling face for months...No phone ,No computer ,No out without Mommy or Daddy
nothing read a book ..........
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May 8, 2008
 
momstheone wrote:
I also find it very hard to believe that a "cell phone" was used. As a medical personnel we all know that they can DNA test the phone and that the child would be screaming to draw the attention of someone. Even my kids have heard so many conflicting stories about this case, You should hear the stories. I think that there may have been alot of add ons about the abuse...I find it hard to believe that even as serious as hazing can get, This seriousness and accusations are so fabricated, but if they use DNA then the truth will come out and I hope All these kids can get the help they need and move forward...
You're insane. As a medical personel I am totally scared that someone as ignorant as you practices in the field to help those who are ill.

I don't care what stories your kids are coming home with, the truth lies in Wilson. It doesn't matter if it were a cellphone or as much as a pencil. It shouldn't even matter if it actually went that far. What matters is that a child was attacked. As a parent in the the right mind, this event should have NEVER happened.

The bus driver, coaches and school district are all responsible for what turmoil occurred on this bus. They are responsible for the safety of every child on their team while they are partipating in any school function until the event is over. They are responsible for both mental and physical abuse. We are not talking about responsiblity 24/7 we are talking about the timeframe that children are left in their hands.

Every child has a right to go to a school function or participate without being harrassed. As much as you have the right to go to work everyday and not be sexually harrassed. Your work environment is responsible for your safety. If they do not do their job to prevent it, fines are in place, jobs can be lost and they could face charges. Why would this be any different then holding teachers/school district or a bus driver accountable for actions that take place in their presence?

Lastly, your kids receiving conflicting stories? Your listening to them too! Why not teach your kids NOT to listen to gossip. If the incident happened in Wilson and your Kids go to Lockport how much of the truth do you really think floats in the other school districts? Why not teach them that IF they are ever witnessing an event so wrong to do the right thing and bring it to someones attention? There is a value in lessons that we as a parent could teach our kids through this so that another child could be protected, more so then listen to gossip to try to decide if it is fact or fiction. Don't waste time in expressing thoughts that are more in left field than in reality.
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#704
May 8, 2008
 
How sick is this? This just isn't normal. Where do these so called people come from anyways?? All I have to say is that justice better be served and I mean to those coaches too! The varsity players should be tried as adults and get the maxium sentence possible (jail time)and you can't tell me that the coaches did not know what was going on in the back of that bus!!! If they were aware of it happening last year then they knew dam well what was happening!!! The police should have been notified last year, why weren't they??? I am furious and I am waiting to hear that the coaches will be charged with a whole lot more! I can't believe that they are getting paid while suspended...that is so not right!
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#705
May 8, 2008
 
How sick are these people? This just isn't normal! All I have to say is that justice better be served. The varisity players should be tried as adults and get the maxium jail time!!! And you cannot tell me that the coaches did not know what was going on in the back of that bus. If they knew it happened last year then they knew dam well what was happening once the rucus began. And why wasn't it reported to the police last year? It was covered up. If I was one of the parents I would have the biggest lawsuit going on right now and that wouldn't even be enough. It can't undo what has happened to these young guys. I pray everyday that they will be able to recover from this and regain any manhood that they were stripped of. I am impatiently waiting to hear that the coaches are being charged with a whole lot more than a misdemeaner. And being suspended with pay? That is so not right!

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May 8, 2008
 
Medina Mother wrote:
How sick are these people? This just isn't normal! All I have to say is that justice better be served. The varisity players should be tried as adults and get the maxium jail time!!! And you cannot tell me that the coaches did not know what was going on in the back of that bus. If they knew it happened last year then they knew dam well what was happening once the rucus began. And why wasn't it reported to the police last year? It was covered up. If I was one of the parents I would have the biggest lawsuit going on right now and that wouldn't even be enough. It can't undo what has happened to these young guys. I pray everyday that they will be able to recover from this and regain any manhood that they were stripped of. I am impatiently waiting to hear that the coaches are being charged with a whole lot more than a misdemeaner. And being suspended with pay? That is so not right!
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. From such people turn away!" (2Timothy, 3: 1-5)
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May 8, 2008
 
Man With No Name wrote:
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"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. From such people turn away!" (2Timothy, 3: 1-5)
Rapture! Good Call!
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Newfane resident wrote:
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You're insane. As a medical personel I am totally scared that someone as ignorant as you practices in the field to help those who are ill.
I don't care what stories your kids are coming home with, the truth lies in Wilson. It doesn't matter if it were a cellphone or as much as a pencil. It shouldn't even matter if it actually went that far. What matters is that a child was attacked. As a parent in the the right mind, this event should have NEVER happened.
The bus driver, coaches and school district are all responsible for what turmoil occurred on this bus. They are responsible for the safety of every child on their team while they are partipating in any school function until the event is over. They are responsible for both mental and physical abuse. We are not talking about responsiblity 24/7 we are talking about the timeframe that children are left in their hands.
Every child has a right to go to a school function or participate without being harrassed. As much as you have the right to go to work everyday and not be sexually harrassed. Your work environment is responsible for your safety. If they do not do their job to prevent it, fines are in place, jobs can be lost and they could face charges. Why would this be any different then holding teachers/school district or a bus driver accountable for actions that take place in their presence?
Lastly, your kids receiving conflicting stories? Your listening to them too! Why not teach your kids NOT to listen to gossip. If the incident happened in Wilson and your Kids go to Lockport how much of the truth do you really think floats in the other school districts? Why not teach them that IF they are ever witnessing an event so wrong to do the right thing and bring it to someones attention? There is a value in lessons that we as a parent could teach our kids through this so that another child could be protected, more so then listen to gossip to try to decide if it is fact or fiction. Don't waste time in expressing thoughts that are more in left field than in reality.
Well said......
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May 9, 2008
 
Man With No Name wrote:
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"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. From such people turn away!" (2Timothy, 3: 1-5)
Oh My God would you PLEASE GO AWAY!
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May 9, 2008
 
mom from buffalo ny is a ****, benefit card, calling someone white trash and poor because they are stating their opinion, your a tool
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May 10, 2008
 
Newfane resident wrote:
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You're insane. As a medical personel I am totally scared that someone as ignorant as you practices in the field to help those who are ill.
I don't care what stories your kids are coming home with, the truth lies in Wilson. It doesn't matter if it were a cellphone or as much as a pencil. It shouldn't even matter if it actually went that far. What matters is that a child was attacked. As a parent in the the right mind, this event should have NEVER happened.
The bus driver, coaches and school district are all responsible for what turmoil occurred on this bus. They are responsible for the safety of every child on their team while they are partipating in any school function until the event is over. They are responsible for both mental and physical abuse. We are not talking about responsiblity 24/7 we are talking about the timeframe that children are left in their hands.
Every child has a right to go to a school function or participate without being harrassed. As much as you have the right to go to work everyday and not be sexually harrassed. Your work environment is responsible for your safety. If they do not do their job to prevent it, fines are in place, jobs can be lost and they could face charges. Why would this be any different then holding teachers/school district or a bus driver accountable for actions that take place in their presence?
Lastly, your kids receiving conflicting stories? Your listening to them too! Why not teach your kids NOT to listen to gossip. If the incident happened in Wilson and your Kids go to Lockport how much of the truth do you really think floats in the other school districts? Why not teach them that IF they are ever witnessing an event so wrong to do the right thing and bring it to someones attention? There is a value in lessons that we as a parent could teach our kids through this so that another child could be protected, more so then listen to gossip to try to decide if it is fact or fiction. Don't waste time in expressing thoughts that are more in left field than in reality.
Well said!
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Well said!
o well said! your a loser
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