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City's actions despicable

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Oakland, CA

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#22
Jul 11, 2008
 
Vallejo Visitor wrote:
The IAFF recently put out a booklet titled "Surviving and Economic Crisis - A Hands-On Guide for IAFF Locals" that identifies problems, resources and strategies for responding when a crisis arrives. The booklet is so new that there is reference to the possibility of bankruptcy in Vallejo.
You shouldn't doubt for a moment that voices appearing on this board and supposedly independent voices would appear in the newspaper are doing so as part of a conscious effort to get the union's case before the public in the best possible light. Union leaders aren't stupid and they are battling every way they possibly can to protect their members from financial loss. Here is an excerpt of the strategy identified in the booklet around the issue of "compensation." There are also strategies around staffing, health benefits, retirement benefits, collective bargaining agreements, leave/hours of work.
"- Develop justifications for a compensation package, e.g., increased workload effectively decreases available staffing; responders now fulfill multiple roles in Homeland Security, EMS,WMD andHazMat response.
- Educate politicians and community leaders regarding elevated risks in the community and emphasize that such risks are met by multi-role fire fighters.
- Develop alliances: seniors, other labor unions, community associations, etc.
- Identify potential coalitions: labor, policy-makers, managers, etc.
- Explore administrative and legal options (grievances and injunctions) to prevent reductions.
- BE PREPARED TO LAUNCH A PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN TO BATTLE ATTACKS.
- Scrutinize other areas of government for perceived inefficiencies.
- Propose innovative programs to improve efficiency and effectiveness of service delivery (i.e.: EMS response)."
So expect to read more letters to the editor and encounter more apologists for the unions on these boards. What ultimately matters is proceeding in a court not too far away. Keep your powder dry folks. This has the potential to get more ugly but also has the potential to lead Vallejo to a new era of labor relations that is founded on sanity rather than mutual back scratching between unions and elected officials. It is about time...
And as a footnote, the peanut gallery that follows me and Golden Retirement around claiming we're Doug and Tony are part of this illustrious crew of apologists for the union. They'll do anything to distort, distract attention from the fundamental issue. The cupboard is bare and they can no longer have seven course meals with merlot...
did patty bring the booklet home for you Dougy boy.

Still mad because a firemen makes more that an old retired DA.
shrew

Concord, CA

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#23
Jul 11, 2008
 
That's used to make more than a retired DA, can't wait for the BK judge's decision in a couple of weeks. Are we gettign nervous yet PSU'ers?

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#24
Jul 11, 2008
 
shrew wrote:
That's used to make more than a retired DA, can't wait for the BK judge's decision in a couple of weeks. Are we gettign nervous yet PSU'ers?
From what has been said both ways, looks like PSU's will dominate once again.

Vallejo's poor decisions again will cost millions.

PSU's could have made the difference, but there are apparently too many old 60's tree hugers that think they can change Vallejo, but instead are costing millions.
Reality Check

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#26
Jul 11, 2008
 
The same nuts that were assuring you all of the arbitrator's pending destruction of the firefighters are now assuring us of the Bankruptcy judge's ruling. More of the same silly gas.
shrew

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Jul 11, 2008
 
DougTonyShow wrote:
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From what has been said both ways, looks like PSU's will dominate once again.
Vallejo's poor decisions again will cost millions.
PSU's could have made the difference, but there are apparently too many old 60's tree hugers that think they can change Vallejo, but instead are costing millions.
Ah yes Mr. Crowbar the achilles heel of the PSU strategy, to intiate change one must spend money, to maintain the status quo and litigate against change one must spend money, the lack of money is the basis for bankruptcy. Let's see what the judge does to your gold plated contracts in a couple of weeks... it doesn't look good ask about the mood around Harvey Rose and Associates Office....
shrew

Concord, CA

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Jul 11, 2008
 
Reality Check wrote:
The same nuts that were assuring you all of the arbitrator's pending destruction of the firefighters are now assuring us of the Bankruptcy judge's ruling. More of the same silly gas.
Hmmm now that makes a lot of sense why would anyone think that a process called "binding arbitration" created by safety unions arbiter would likely find for the City? No one believed your argument anymoe than anyone would agree that Henke, Riley, or Mustard would ever give anything back to the City.
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