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Karen Wandrei
Ukiah, CA
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Bob wrote: <quoted text>Don't forget to mention the millions of kindergartens and first graders that are taught to roll joints by their babysitter. I know at least 2 million first graders die each year at the abuse of marijuana not to mention the 300,000 that die ingesting rolling papers. This must stop!
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It is simple economics.
Children don't have the money to purchase large quantities of drugs.
What are Children's' disposable income?$50 a month?
We must believe that children spend every last dime they get their hands on marijuana. We must ignore the video game industry income, the movie industry, clothing etc.
Only an irrational person would believe that all these children are spending all their money on marijuana and parents are oblivious to it.
How much money do you give your children to spend on what they want?
Lets face it, first and second graders aren't buying marijuana and successfully hiding it from mom and dad.
The tobacco and alcohol prohibitionist would argue kids are spending all their money on those vices too.
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It does however sound the hysteria siren when prohibitionist claim the children are dying.
Many schools now drug test for curricular activities and the results haven't alarmed school officials. The schools even have the right to search students anytime they want, without probable cause, yet they rarely find drugs.
If the yesonbees want to include the children in the debate they should provide facts not opinions. The result of believing them and their propaganda would lead everyone to label all of our children drug addicts.
My children and the children in our school don't deserve to be labeled drug addicts just so that you may make political hay out of a marijuana
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Leave the kids out of it. They don't deserve your serious accusations. According to the 2007 Status Report of the Mendocino County Policy Council on Children and Youth, our marijuana permissive culture does have an impact on our children. Mendocino County is tied for first in the state for marijuana use by 11th graders in the last 30 days at 33%. It is 20% for 9th graders and 7% for 7th graders based on self-reporting. 82% of 11th graders believe it is easy or fairly easy to obtain marijuana, greater than those who believe it is easy to obtain alcohol. The number is 63% for 9th graders and 28% for 7th graders. 51% of 11th graders were offered illegal drugs on school property in the past 12 months. The number is 34% for 9th graders and 16% for 7th graders. We can not pretend that our permissive marijuana culture has no impact on our youth. At the Mendocino County Youth Project we deal all the time with children who are living in grower households and we are well aware of the problems this creates for the children. In many instances they can not bring friends home from school or tell anyone what Mommy and Daddy do for a living. They get pulled out of class, not for their personal drug use, but because they reek like marijuana because it is being processed at home. Some are forced to work as trimmers for their parents. I don't see how anyone can maintain that this is a healthy environment for children. Also, Cermak has done studies that show chronic marijuana use is harmful for developing adolescent brains.
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Mendo Local
San Jose, CA
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aaaaahhhhhhh no, you posted statistics!!!!WHat will Ddc (Drug Dependent Creep) do now?????
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Watcher
Redway, CA
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Karen Wandrei wrote: <quoted text>
According to the 2007 Status Report of the Mendocino County Policy Council on Children and Youth, our marijuana permissive culture does have an impact on our children.
Mendocino County is tied for first in the state for marijuana use by 11th graders in the last 30 days at 33%. It is 20% for 9th graders and 7% for 7th graders based on self-reporting.
82% of 11th graders believe it is easy or fairly easy to obtain marijuana, greater than those who believe it is easy to obtain alcohol. The number is 63% for 9th graders and 28% for 7th graders.
51% of 11th graders were offered illegal drugs on school property in the past 12 months. The number is 34% for 9th graders and 16% for 7th graders.
We can not pretend that our permissive marijuana culture has no impact on our youth. At the Mendocino County Youth Project we deal all the time with children who are living in grower households and we are well aware of the problems this creates for the children. In many instances they can not bring friends home from school or tell anyone what Mommy and Daddy do for a living. They get pulled out of class, not for their personal drug use, but because they reek like marijuana because it is being processed at home. Some are forced to work as trimmers for their parents. I don't see how anyone can maintain that this is a healthy environment for children.
Also, Cermak has done studies that show chronic marijuana use is harmful for developing adolescent brains. Kendal, Thank you for the info you posted. Bob has been insisting that kids only have $50.00 a month total. I've told bob that he wouldn't believe how the much money some of them have or how they get it. I have a hard time understanding the agendas of those who spend so much time posting statements that imply that there are no problems from pot and kids aren't be hurt by pot at all. Thanks again. Watcher
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Watcher
Redway, CA
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Sorry, thats Karen
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Bob
Willits, CA
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Karen Wandrei wrote: <quoted text>
According to the 2007 Status Report of the Mendocino County Policy Council on Children and Youth, our marijuana permissive culture does have an impact on our children.
Mendocino County is tied for first in the state for marijuana use by 11th graders in the last 30 days at 33%. It is 20% for 9th graders and 7% for 7th graders based on self-reporting.
82% of 11th graders believe it is easy or fairly easy to obtain marijuana, greater than those who believe it is easy to obtain alcohol. The number is 63% for 9th graders and 28% for 7th graders.
51% of 11th graders were offered illegal drugs on school property in the past 12 months. The number is 34% for 9th graders and 16% for 7th graders.
We can not pretend that our permissive marijuana culture has no impact on our youth. At the Mendocino County Youth Project we deal all the time with children who are living in grower households and we are well aware of the problems this creates for the children. In many instances they can not bring friends home from school or tell anyone what Mommy and Daddy do for a living. When people post about children they are not soliciting sympathy for high schoolers. They imply by calling them children those that cannot fend for themselves or make rational judgment. I would agree that the majority of 11 and 12 graders are exposed to the marijuana culture. Courts have tended to treat those aged students as adults when it comes to crime. I believe 11 and 12 graders can be held responsible for their actions. We do as a society allow them to drive cars and engage in risky behavior. A 16 year old for example can legally fly up to a 12,000 lb airplane solo. i think if one is serios about the 15-17 year olds behavior we should start with the most abused and dangerous drugs first. Alcohol abuse contributes to overdose deaths, sexual assualts, domestic violence, and violent crime at far greater rates than does marijuana abuse. . Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol.In 2001, there were 331 alcohol overdose deaths and 0 marijuana overdose deaths. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm53... . Excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States ( and is associated with multiple adverse health consequences, including liver cirrhosis, various cancers, unintentional injuries, and violence. . Alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs, and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect can lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a recorded case of marijuana overdose. . About 3 million violent crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense. Two-thirds of victims who suffered violence by an intimate (a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend) reported that alcohol had been a factor. Among spouse victims, 3 out of 4 incidents were reported to have involved an offender who had been drinking. Source: U.S. Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics. National Crime Victimization Survey 2002 . A Harvard School of Public Heath study found that 72 percent of college rapes occurred when the female was too intoxicated by alcohol to resist/consent. Source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/cas/Documents/rap... . If everyone is concerned about the children where is the outrage about alcohol consumption?????? .
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Dublin, CA
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Bob wrote: <quoted text> When people post about children they are not soliciting sympathy for high schoolers. They imply by calling them children those that cannot fend for themselves or make rational judgment. I would agree that the majority of 11 and 12 graders are exposed to the marijuana culture. Courts have tended to treat those aged students as adults when it comes to crime. I believe 11 and 12 graders can be held responsible for their actions. We do as a society allow them to drive cars and engage in risky behavior. A 16 year old for example can legally fly up to a 12,000 lb airplane solo. i think if one is serios about the 15-17 year olds behavior we should start with the most abused and dangerous drugs first. Alcohol abuse contributes to overdose deaths, sexual assualts, domestic violence, and violent crime at far greater rates than does marijuana abuse. . Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol.In 2001, there were 331 alcohol overdose deaths and 0 marijuana overdose deaths. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm53... . Excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States ( and is associated with multiple adverse health consequences, including liver cirrhosis, various cancers, unintentional injuries, and violence. . Alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs, and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect can lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a recorded case of marijuana overdose. . About 3 million violent crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense. Two-thirds of victims who suffered violence by an intimate (a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend) reported that alcohol had been a factor. Among spouse victims, 3 out of 4 incidents were reported to have involved an offender who had been drinking. Source: U.S. Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics. National Crime Victimization Survey 2002 . A Harvard School of Public Heath study found that 72 percent of college rapes occurred when the female was too intoxicated by alcohol to resist/consent. Source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/cas/Documents/rap... . If everyone is concerned about the children where is the outrage about alcohol consumption?????? . Maybe it is time to ban the sale of alcohol in any amount greater than 750 ml. That is a 1/5th of alcohol, and a lethal dose at that. Make it so someone 21 or older cannot purchase any more than a 1/5 of liquor at any one time. This would prevent kids or teens from getting an adult to purchase lethal doses of booze for them. Who really needs that much alcohol, anyway? We all know someone who drinks tequila, vodka, or whiskey and becomes extremely violent. Time to change that.
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Bob
Willits, CA
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reality checker wrote: <quoted text>
Maybe it is time to ban the sale of alcohol in any amount greater than 750 ml. That is a 1/5th of alcohol, and a lethal dose at that. Make it so someone 21 or older cannot purchase any more than a 1/5 of liquor at any one time. This would prevent kids or teens from getting an adult to purchase lethal doses of booze for them. Who really needs that much alcohol, anyway? We all know someone who drinks tequila, vodka, or whiskey and becomes extremely violent.
Time to change that. I'm sure all of the posters worried about the children would line up to sign the initiative.
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Dublin, CA
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Bob wrote: <quoted text>
I'm sure all of the posters worried about the children would line up to sign the initiative. Oh, yes, voter fraud. Underage kids trying to register to vote, only to vote NO on the ballot measure, so they can get their hooch! ha ha ha
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just asking
Ukiah, CA
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Bob wrote: <quoted text> When people post about children they are not soliciting sympathy for high schoolers. They imply by calling them children those that cannot fend for themselves or make rational judgment. I would agree that the majority of 11 and 12 graders are exposed to the marijuana culture. Courts have tended to treat those aged students as adults when it comes to crime. I believe 11 and 12 graders can be held responsible for their actions. We do as a society allow them to drive cars and engage in risky behavior. A 16 year old for example can legally fly up to a 12,000 lb airplane solo. i think if one is serios about the 15-17 year olds behavior we should start with the most abused and dangerous drugs first. Alcohol abuse contributes to overdose deaths, sexual assualts, domestic violence, and violent crime at far greater rates than does marijuana abuse. . Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol.In 2001, there were 331 alcohol overdose deaths and 0 marijuana overdose deaths. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm53... . Excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States ( and is associated with multiple adverse health consequences, including liver cirrhosis, various cancers, unintentional injuries, and violence. . Alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs, and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect can lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a recorded case of marijuana overdose. . About 3 million violent crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense. Two-thirds of victims who suffered violence by an intimate (a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend) reported that alcohol had been a factor. Among spouse victims, 3 out of 4 incidents were reported to have involved an offender who had been drinking. Source: U.S. Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics. National Crime Victimization Survey 2002 . A Harvard School of Public Heath study found that 72 percent of college rapes occurred when the female was too intoxicated by alcohol to resist/consent. Source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/cas/Documents/rap... . If everyone is concerned about the children where is the outrage about alcohol consumption?????? . You deny there is any risk to kids based on our marijuana permissive culture, but when someone provides references that contradict you, you immediatelly change the subject to alcohol. This is a perfect example of misdirection from the pro-marijuana lobby. First, denial that there is a problem, then a quick change of topic when facts are presented. During the Measure B campaign, instead of defend the industrial scale pollution, excess water use, erosion, nuisance odors, and other negative impacts, all you could do was point fingers at the wine and timber industries. You are like little kids who get caught misbehaving and point the finger at someone else. It would be refreshing if you could honestly acknowledge the issues with marijuana production and suggest viable alternatives, but I'm not holding my breath.
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Dublin, CA
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just asking wrote: <quoted text>
During the Measure B campaign, instead of defend the industrial scale pollution, excess water use, erosion, nuisance odors, and other negative impacts, all you could do was point fingers at the wine and timber industries.
You deny the wine and timber industries use pollution, pesticides, excess water (frost control for vines, water to keep logs wet - I've seen the lumber yard on state street) erosion from removing so many trees. It couldn't be those, no, it couldn't be. Only pot growing does that.
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just asking
Ukiah, CA
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reality checker wrote: <quoted text>
Maybe it is time to ban the sale of alcohol in any amount greater than 750 ml. That is a 1/5th of alcohol, and a lethal dose at that. Make it so someone 21 or older cannot purchase any more than a 1/5 of liquor at any one time. This would prevent kids or teens from getting an adult to purchase lethal doses of booze for them. Who really needs that much alcohol, anyway? We all know someone who drinks tequila, vodka, or whiskey and becomes extremely violent.
Time to change that. Let's see if I understand you. We agree that prohibition is not an appropritate way to regulate a substance for which their is high demand and widespread social acceptance. We tried alcohol prohibition for about a dozen years and found it did not work, so we scrapped it. We now have federal marijuana prohibition and we know it does not work. Here in California we have medical marijuana which allows qualified patients and primary caregivers to cultivate, possess and use marijuana for medical purposes. The No on B campaign and you personally attacked Measure B as "prohibition" even though it protected the rights of any legitimate patient or caregiver to have all the marijuana they need. But now you are calling for severe restrictions on the amount of alcohol that can be sold at one time. By your standards, you are now calling for a return of alcohol prohibition. If Measure B was, as you said, "prohibition," then can you explain why your suggestion now for alcohol is not prohibition? Better yet, just admit that your ethics and your arguments are strictly situational.
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Bob
Willits, CA
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just asking wrote: <quoted text>
You deny there is any risk to kids based on our marijuana permissive culture, but when someone provides references that contradict you, you immediatelly change the subject to alcohol.
This is a perfect example of misdirection from the pro-marijuana lobby. First, denial that there is a problem, then a quick change of topic when facts are presented.
During the Measure B campaign, instead of defend the industrial scale pollution, excess water use, erosion, nuisance odors, and other negative impacts, all you could do was point fingers at the wine and timber industries.
You are like little kids who get caught misbehaving and point the finger at someone else.
It would be refreshing if you could honestly acknowledge the issues with marijuana production and suggest viable alternatives, but I'm not holding my breath. It would be refreshing if you would admit you are calling our kids drug addicts to further your position. My point is if you were sincerely interested in the kids, and not merely using them as pawns, you would be on the limit alcohol band wagon. It would also be refreshing to read your opinion on why concentrating our efforts on marijuana while ignoring alcohol endangers the safety of children.But I doubt you will ever acknowledge that marijuana is much safer for kids than alcohol. I presume you will now twist my writings to suggest I approve of kids using marijuana. . I don't think kids should use any recreational substances. . I'm only pointing out that if they do choose marijuana over alcohol their chances of overdosing are zero . their chances of being raped are next to zero, and the chance they will be involved in some type of violent act isn't even close to the same chance they take with alcohol. . Remember this Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol.In 2001, there were 331 alcohol overdose deaths and 0 marijuana overdose deaths. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm53 ... Do you think with all the problems associated with alcohol, Law enforcement officers should be banned from using it?
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Dublin, CA
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just asking wrote: <quoted text>
Let's see if I understand you. We agree that prohibition is not an appropritate way to regulate a substance for which their is high demand and widespread social acceptance.
We tried alcohol prohibition for about a dozen years and found it did not work, so we scrapped it. We now have federal marijuana prohibition and we know it does not work.
Here in California we have medical marijuana which allows qualified patients and primary caregivers to cultivate, possess and use marijuana for medical purposes.
The No on B campaign and you personally attacked Measure B as "prohibition" even though it protected the rights of any legitimate patient or caregiver to have all the marijuana they need.
But now you are calling for severe restrictions on the amount of alcohol that can be sold at one time. By your standards, you are now calling for a return of alcohol prohibition.
If Measure B was, as you said, "prohibition," then can you explain why your suggestion now for alcohol is not prohibition?
Better yet, just admit that your ethics and your arguments are strictly situational. There are many counties in the United States that are "dry" meaning they do not sell alcohol. Can you tell me one good reason to sell a lethal dose of alcohol to someone? Who really needs a 1/2 gallon of whiskey or vodka? Alcohol lethal dosages: For a 120 lb. man or woman drinking very quickly, it would only take about 9-10 drinks in an hour to reach the lethal level source • http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/htalcoholpoison.html Can you tell me what a lethal dose of cannabis is? Yes on B wants to regulate how much cannabis a patient can possess, yet has no problem with the sales of LETHAL doses of alcohol. Even though the law states a patient can have what amount they need, people still are trying to regulate my medicine. Now its time to regulate theirs. Why are you opposed to banning the sales of 1/2 gallons of booze, anyway? It would be one step in the prevention of our kids getting their hands on LETHAL doses of booze.
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lawnorder
Ukiah, CA
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reality checker wrote: <quoted text> There are many counties in the United States that are "dry" meaning they do not sell alcohol. Can you tell me one good reason to sell a lethal dose of alcohol to someone? Who really needs a 1/2 gallon of whiskey or vodka? Alcohol lethal dosages: For a 120 lb. man or woman drinking very quickly, it would only take about 9-10 drinks in an hour to reach the lethal level source • http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/htalcoholpoison.html Can you tell me what a lethal dose of cannabis is? Yes on B wants to regulate how much cannabis a patient can possess, yet has no problem with the sales of LETHAL doses of alcohol. Even though the law states a patient can have what amount they need, people still are trying to regulate my medicine. Now its time to regulate theirs. Why are you opposed to banning the sales of 1/2 gallons of booze, anyway? It would be one step in the prevention of our kids getting their hands on LETHAL doses of booze. You prove my point by ignoring it. You can't refute my arguments regarding marijuana, so you try to switch the topic to alcohol. Also, I have not taken any position on alcohol, but you respond as though I have. Is your failure to stay on topic and respond with accuracy a conscious choice or a side effect of your "medicine," which is prone to cause people to be non-focused and spacey? We will have to start calling you "reality chucker," which is a much better fit for you.
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lawnorder
Ukiah, CA
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reality checker wrote: <quoted text> There are many counties in the United States that are "dry" meaning they do not sell alcohol. Can you tell me one good reason to sell a lethal dose of alcohol to someone? Who really needs a 1/2 gallon of whiskey or vodka? Alcohol lethal dosages: For a 120 lb. man or woman drinking very quickly, it would only take about 9-10 drinks in an hour to reach the lethal level source • http://www.unm.edu/~shc1/htalcoholpoison.html Can you tell me what a lethal dose of cannabis is? Yes on B wants to regulate how much cannabis a patient can possess, yet has no problem with the sales of LETHAL doses of alcohol. Even though the law states a patient can have what amount they need, people still are trying to regulate my medicine. Now its time to regulate theirs. Why are you opposed to banning the sales of 1/2 gallons of booze, anyway? It would be one step in the prevention of our kids getting their hands on LETHAL doses of booze. You deny marijuana has any negative impacts on kids or is a problem in our schools, then when someone cites stats to prove you wrong, and I point out that you change the subject when proven wrong, you accuse me of calling our kids "dope addicts." Brilliant line of reasoning! No one here is ignoring or condoning problems with alcohol. Why do you ignore the problems with commercial dope growers/peddlers? Would responding to that problem affect the profit margin of your dope grower friends?
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LADY
Ukiah, CA
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I'm so encouraged by the posts I'm seeing by clear minds. There is a stark contrast between the pro and against groups. The light is finally shining on Intelligence and logic. Thank you lawnorder.
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Redwood City, CA
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lawnorder wrote: <quoted text>
You prove my point by ignoring it.
You can't refute my arguments regarding marijuana, so you try to switch the topic to alcohol. Also, I have not taken any position on alcohol, but you respond as though I have. Is your failure to stay on topic and respond with accuracy a conscious choice or a side effect of your "medicine," which is prone to cause people to be non-focused and spacey?
We will have to start calling you "reality chucker," which is a much better fit for you. you were the one who asked me about alcohol prohibition, that it didn't work. I am not talking about prohibiting alcohol, simply taking one step closer to preventing lethal doses of alcohol from getting into their hands. Measure B was concerned about marijuana, and I don't think anyone doubts that drugs AND alcohol should be kept out of their hands. We took that step regarding marijuana with measure b. Now we need to take that step with alcohol. Its about the kids and their safety. Do you disagree with keeping lethal doses of booze away from kids? Why would you have a problem with limiting the amounts of booze you can purchase?
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lawnorder
Ukiah, CA
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LADY wrote: I'm so encouraged by the posts I'm seeing by clear minds. There is a stark contrast between the pro and against groups. The light is finally shining on Intelligence and logic. Thank you lawnorder. THank you! I am encouraged to know that you can see the difference. It is obvious to most people that this debate is between two broad interest groups. One group has a vested financial interest in seeing that things continue just as they are, despite all the problems with commercial marijuana. THe other group is trying to lessen the negative impacts on our children, our communities and our environment.
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“never stop asking questions”
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willits
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Redwood City, CA
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lawnorder wrote: <quoted text>
THank you! I am encouraged to know that you can see the difference. It is obvious to most people that this debate is between two broad interest groups. One group has a vested financial interest in seeing that things continue just as they are, despite all the problems with commercial marijuana. THe other group is trying to lessen the negative impacts on our children, our communities and our environment. Maybe you didn't read the May 10, 2008 press Democrat article about the 15 year old girl admitted to hospital with a BAC of .578? Or do you forget the fatal crash on Pine Mountain last month with the alcohol-impaired driver age 18 and passenger who died age 20? I am concerned about the children and teens. here are some sobering facts: SOBERING NUMBERSPercentage of Sonoma County ninth-graders who reported binge drinking in 2004: 17 Percentage of Sonoma County 11th-graders who reported binge drinking in 2004: 30 Number of teens treated at Memorial Hospital for poisoning, including alcohol, since January 2006: 60 Youngest child treated: 12 Percentage of teens treated for poisoning younger than 15: 48 Source: California Healthy Kids Survey, Memorial Hospital numbers, and Press Democrat archives. Now, why should we be able to purchase LETHAL DOSES OF ALCOHOL? Why are you so against limiting the amounts? Bars can "cut you off" if you have had too much to drink. Intoxication means you have a toxic level in your body. Nausea and vomiting are the first signs of lethal levels of alcohol in your system. can you name a lethal dose of pot?
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lawnorder
Ukiah, CA
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reality checker wrote: <quoted text>
Maybe you didn't read the May 10, 2008 press Democrat article about the 15 year old girl admitted to hospital with a BAC of .578? Or do you forget the fatal crash on Pine Mountain last month with the alcohol-impaired driver age 18 and passenger who died age 20?
I am concerned about the children and teens.
here are some sobering facts:
SOBERING NUMBERSPercentage of Sonoma County ninth-graders who reported binge drinking in 2004: 17
Percentage of Sonoma County 11th-graders who reported binge drinking in 2004: 30
Number of teens treated at Memorial Hospital for poisoning, including alcohol, since January 2006: 60
Youngest child treated: 12
Percentage of teens treated for poisoning younger than 15: 48
Source: California Healthy Kids Survey, Memorial Hospital numbers, and Press Democrat archives.
Now, why should we be able to purchase LETHAL DOSES OF ALCOHOL? Why are you so against limiting the amounts? Bars can "cut you off" if you have had too much to drink.
Intoxication means you have a toxic level in your body. Nausea and vomiting are the first signs of lethal levels of alcohol in your system.
can you name a lethal dose of pot? You continue to prove my point. Your belated concern about alcohol abuse is only a diversion from the discussion about the negative impacts of marijuana and how to address them. The facts don't work for you on the marijuana discussion so you are desperate to change the topic.
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