Judge pondering Measure G requests

I heard from someone at the courthouse that Behnke thinks you can cite Kelly. that would mean measure b would be on hold until Supreme court rules on Kelly. 2-3 years it could take them.

i heard your stupid

"California state law sets the legal possession of medical marijuana at six mature or 12 immature plants and eight ounces of dried marijuana. Mendocino County voters set the same limits in the county last month when they approved Measure B which repealed Measure G."

The "limits" were never "limits" they were to be considered a floor not a ceiling. As per the Wright decision, and the signing letter by the AUTHORS of SB420.

Patients may transport cannabis. The defense may be raised at any point without prejudice. The "default guidelines" set forth in Health & Safety Code § 11362.77(a) were intended “to be the threshold, not the ceiling,” and a defendant who exceeds those guidelines is still entitled to a compassionate use instruction.

September 10, 2003

The Honorable John Burton
President pro Tempre of the Senate
State Capitol, Room 205, Sacramento, CA 95814

Re: Legislative Intent Regarding SB 420 (as amended September 4, 2003)

JOHN --

In order to clarify the Legislature's intent in enacting Senate Bill 420, I respectfully request that this letter be published in the Senate Daily Journal.

Fully recognizing that Proposition 215 cannot be amended by the Legislature, we have resisted all efforts to make the new identification card system created by SB 420 mandatory &endash; and at least two times SB 420 contains specific language declaring our intent that this program is wholly voluntary.

In addition, the guidelines in SB 420 establish permissible amounts that are intended to be the threshold, and not a ceiling.

Furthermore, SB 420 specifically allows localities with higher possession or cultivation amounts to retain them, and other local jurisdictions to establish new guidelines to exceed what has been set forth in this bill. No jurisdiction may establish amounts lower than those set forth in SB 420.

Altogether, we believe that our final version of SB 420 is the very best we could hope to get enacted into law and that it provides (pursuant to the California voters' will in enacting Proposition 215) broad protection to tens of thousands of ill Californians without jeopardizing any ill Californians.

Thank you for allowing us to clarify our legislative intent regarding SB 420.

Sincerely,

JOHN VASCONCELLOS / MARK LENO
Senator, 13th District / Assemblyman, 13th District

what the hell is the law now????????

6 plants mature OR 12 plants immature ??????
are we supposed to kill the other six when they get mature????? isnt that kynda stupid....you b guyz are fucktards.

is 6 per patient the law then hell I can grow nearly 100 plants with 15 to 16 patients if so then that is great more patients means more medicine. awesome.

BUT kelly decision has all LIMITS on hold until further notice. whats that mean? can we have 99 plants can we have 1000 what can we have 6 or 12........arghggggggghhhhhh. what the fuuuck.

hmmmm the Woody Harrelson case comes to mind where he won because Kentuckys marijuana laws are vague and undefined... can anyone say legal disaster....
waste of time, money and resources

for those of us trying to follow the guidelines what is the rule of the day????

I AM CONFUSED....

did anyone at the hering yesterday hear judge behennke rule about KELLY decision?

Exactly, no limit was set for medical use in the state law, but personal use was not addressed in that law.

Will these damn freaks get over this and just put the voter approved Measure B to law NOW. I am tired as a 6th Generation Ukiahian seeing all this crap about legalizing drugs here and destroying our community. Feds and Homeland Security needs to be alerted about this and investigate the people that are doing this and if any officials are taking any corrputed kickbacks from any drugs..

ukiahcat wrote:

Will these damn freaks get over this and just put the voter approved Measure B to law NOW. I am tired as a 6th Generation Ukiahian seeing all this crap about legalizing drugs here and destroying our community. Feds and Homeland Security needs to be alerted about this and investigate the people that are doing this and if any officials are taking any corrputed kickbacks from any drugs..

6th generation Ukiahian, you must be from the old school days of reefer madness.

As for officials taking kickbacks, that's what the lobbyists strive for.

nugjar wrote:

what the hell is the law now????????
6 plants mature OR 12 plants immature ??????
are we supposed to kill the other six when they get mature????? isnt that kynda stupid....you b guyz are fucktards.
is 6 per patient the law then hell I can grow nearly 100 plants with 15 to 16 patients if so then that is great more patients means more medicine. awesome.
BUT kelly decision has all LIMITS on hold until further notice. whats that mean? can we have 99 plants can we have 1000 what can we have 6 or 12........arghggggggghhhhhh. what the fuuuck.
hmmmm the Woody Harrelson case comes to mind where he won because Kentuckys marijuana laws are vague and undefined... can anyone say legal disaster....
waste of time, money and resources
for those of us trying to follow the guidelines what is the rule of the day????
I AM CONFUSED....

Nervous, Mr. Nugjar? Let me explain in for you. There is no safe or legal number for commercial growers like you. If you are engaged in the commercial cultivation, possession or sales of marijuana you are at risk of law enforcement intervention. Medical cards won't help if there is evidence of commercial intent. Ask the Ft. Bragg grower who got convicted. You and all your dirt bag grower friends should consider renting a house in Arcata.

ukiahcat wrote:

Will these damn freaks get over this and just put the voter approved Measure B to law NOW. I am tired as a 6th Generation Ukiahian seeing all this crap about legalizing drugs here and destroying our community. Feds and Homeland Security needs to be alerted about this and investigate the people that are doing this and if any officials are taking any corrputed kickbacks from any drugs..

Airstrikes? Either you are a phony no on B poster trying to creat sympathy for the growers or you are an idiot.

Ken W wrote:

Exactly, no limit was set for medical use in the state law, but personal use was not addressed in that law.

Personal use has never been legal. The only exception is for "medical marijuana." Meausre G was/is a crock and did not/can not change state law.

nugjar wrote:

what the hell is the law now????????
6 plants mature OR 12 plants immature ??????
are we supposed to kill the other six when they get mature????? isnt that kynda stupid....you b guyz are fucktards.
is 6 per patient the law then hell I can grow nearly 100 plants with 15 to 16 patients if so then that is great more patients means more medicine. awesome.
BUT kelly decision has all LIMITS on hold until further notice. whats that mean? can we have 99 plants can we have 1000 what can we have 6 or 12........arghggggggghhhhhh. what the fuuuck.
hmmmm the Woody Harrelson case comes to mind where he won because Kentuckys marijuana laws are vague and undefined... can anyone say legal disaster....
waste of time, money and resources
for those of us trying to follow the guidelines what is the rule of the day????
I AM CONFUSED....

Nugjar,

Your confusion is hereby relieved with the answer to your problem... and here is the answer; "try decaf!"

And that is the rule of your day.

Good luck,

_S_

_Spartacus_ wrote:

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Nugjar,
Your confusion is hereby relieved with the answer to your problem... and here is the answer; "try decaf!"
And that is the rule of your day.
Good luck,
_S_

Spartacus my elusive friend! It is just plain good to "hear" ya'. Welcome back to the fray.

_Spartacus_ wrote:

<quoted text>
Nugjar,
Your confusion is hereby relieved with the answer to your problem... and here is the answer; "try decaf!"
And that is the rule of your day.
Good luck,
_S_

omg see nobody can give a straight answer its 6 per patient and you can have up to 25 plants in city limits if your outta city limits i think its still 25 at least thats what john pinches told me .so get your grow on my friend .just dont go over 25 .

A garden of any size can be defended as medical in court.
It is the law.
The police can arrest you.
The judge can drop the charges.
The police must then return you property.
All of your property, including medical cannabis, as per the Kha decision.
Do not sell medical cannabis for profit, charge what it COSTS to produce it , plus a fair hourly wage, or salary.
That is 100% legal as long as every one involved is a valid 215 patient.
As to the cop that got a 215 supposedly by lying to the doctor, that is a felony.
Lying to the doctor to get a cannabis recommendation is a felony for anyone, even a cop.

hey law and order I am not nervous i have 6 little plants.. I follow the laws i just dont know what they are I am not a commercial grower HAAAAAAhhaaaaaaaaaa six 3 inch plants thats funny....i have 215 i have chronic pain form a crushing traffic wreck which crushed my femur, ankle, left arm, ribs and fractured my skull.. weed helps me sleep so i guess my question about how much i am allowed makes me a criminal....

just asking what the hell is the law.... and get called a dirt bag... soooooo nice

another measure B probibition idiot .

god

peace people

Well, at least it's Judge Behnke, not that stoner Nelson deciding this case.

Vowel Movement wrote:

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Spartacus my elusive friend! It is just plain good to "hear" ya'. Welcome back to the fray.

Hey VM, It's cool man, thanks...

Just no serious topic enough what to sink the ol' dictatorial didactic of diction teeth into, and so sometimes I gotta settle for the old (and I mean OLD) pot topics to whet my sharp tongue on... so we have what we have and they still don't GET IT!

YaknowwhatImeanvern?

_S_

susan brackett wrote:

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omg see nobody can give a straight answer its 6 per patient and you can have up to 25 plants in city limits if your outta city limits i think its still 25 at least thats what john pinches told me .so get your grow on my friend .just dont go over 25 .

Hey there my old friend the lovely Ms. Alice B. Tokeless... how's it swingin' babe?

_S_

_Spartacus_ wrote:

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Hey there my old friend the lovely Ms. Alice B. Tokeless... how's it swingin' babe?
_S_

gosh where have you been !!!this guy is totally getting on my case on the state police thread .thought for sure you would be there to agree with him.

do you need another spanking?