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Election Results for Mendocino County

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By The Number

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#43
Jun 4, 2008
 
MendoCo. has "only" 47,000 registered voters & today "only" 13,380 voted. That's less than 30%. Todays' BIG # is 15%---That's the % of eligible voters who voted.Mendocino has close to 100,000 adults 18 yrs old & older but only half are even registered. Numbers don't lie and growers don't vote.You blew it Mendo.....15%....15 Freaking per cent.

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#44
Jun 4, 2008
 
By The Number wrote:
MendoCo. has "only" 47,000 registered voters & today "only" 13,380 voted. That's less than 30%. Todays' BIG # is 15%---That's the % of eligible voters who voted.Mendocino has close to 100,000 adults 18 yrs old & older but only half are even registered. Numbers don't lie and growers don't vote.You blew it Mendo.....15%....15 Freaking per cent.
Gee, let me think about this one, this not gonna be easy... ummm, gee, uhhh... do ya think they was STONED!- Err DUH!

Now SHHH please, I'm listening to the fat lady sing, do ya hear her?

_S_

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By The Number

Eureka, CA

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#45
Jun 4, 2008
 
If today's vote says anything you guys need to register the migrants, drivers,trimmers,houseless, & summer laborers that the grows bring.Sen. McCain is hoping liberal voters stay home in Nov. too.
GlaxoSmithKline

Willits, CA

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#46
Jun 4, 2008
 
Yup looks like the Yessirs won 52% of 16436. Not sure that it means anything though
Fat Lady

Ukiah, CA

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#47
Jun 4, 2008
 
MEASURE B-County

Total
Number of Precincts
235
Precincts Reporting
235 100.0 %
Times Counted
16436/47040 34.9 %
Total Votes
16285
YES
8493 52.15%
NO
7792 47.85%

Election Summary Report
COUNTY OF MENDOCINO
STATEWIDE DIRECT PRIMARY
JUNE 3, 2008
This is the final election night report.
Results for this election will be certified at the completion of the canvass.

06/04/08
00:25:10

http://www.co.mendocino.ca.us/acr/cgi-bin/htm...
James M Kinder

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#48
Jun 4, 2008
 
Scope wrote:
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See, that's just it...you vote out of spite of not "liking" something...you don't give a **** about the issue, you would rather have total prohibition...but you mark my words, the industrial growers will trench in deeper and fight back harder, and nothing substantial will have been acheived by this measure than to stigmatize those who chose the prospect of low impact Cannabis over drugs and alcohol, which in no way are "low impact" on people, families and communities...See ya in Court
You would not want to see me in Court. I am with the prosecution.
James M Kinder

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#49
Jun 4, 2008
 
_Spartacus_ wrote:
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Gee, let me think about this one, this not gonna be easy... ummm, gee, uhhh... do ya think they was STONED!- Err DUH!
Now SHHH please, I'm listening to the fat lady sing, do ya hear her?
_S_
_S_
The whole experience was gratifying. Now, back to work.
Legal Realist

Ukiah, CA

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#50
Jun 4, 2008
 
MEASURE B IS ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
ROSS LIBERTY AND HIS BAND OF POLITICAL NAZI'S
HAVE DONE IS CREATE A HUGE LAWSUIT BURDEN FOR THE COUNTY
WAY TO GO REPUBLICAN FASCISTS!!!
CHEW ON THIS:
The state’s medical marijuana guidelines were ruled unconstitutional by California’s Court of Appeal May 22, 2008– a decision that makes most limits, including those in Measure B unenforceable.

The decision, People v. Kelly, specifically struck down the same section of law cited in Measure B – Health and Safety Code Section 11362.77 – which sets default limits of six plants and eight ounces per patient. In effect, therefore, Mendocino County citizens are being asked to vote on a proposal that, if approved, would be illegal.

The new decision is certain to spark a challenge to Measure B if it passes, clogging the courts and burdening local taxpayers, according to attorneys.

“At this point, passing Measure B would create more problems than it would solve,” said attorney Myron Sawicki, who specialized in marijuana-related prosecutions with the Mendocino County District Attorney’s office for 23 years. Sawicki is the recipient of several awards in excellence for marijuana prosecution from the United States Drug Enforcement Administration and the Campaign Against Marijuana Production (CAMP).

“Since there are no state guidelines anymore, why pass Measure B? It’s a waste of public funds,” Sawicki said.“Why spend the money? Even if this passes, it will result in spin-off litigation.”

The California Appellate Court (Second District) ruled Thursday that state legislators overstepped their bounds in 2003 by limiting the amount of medical marijuana that patients could possess to six plants and eight ounces.

The unanimous opinion in the Los Angeles court said legislators acted unconstitutionally when they passed a statute (known as SB 420) that effectively amended Proposition 215 -- also known as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996 (CUA).

"The CUA can only be amended with voters’ approval. Voters, however, did not approve the eight-ounce limit and other caps… hence the section (11362.77) unconstitutionally amends the CUA,” wrote Justice Richard Aldrich in Thursday’s opinion. Text of the Kelly decision is available at: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/document ...

Measure B has the same problem since it is based on the same six plant, and eight ounce limits, which were struck down by the Appeals Court.“As of today there are no state standards,” Sawicki said.“Everyone needs to go back to the drawing boards because if approved, Measure B will just add to the chaos and confusion.”.

The Court’s decision means it will now be up to courts and juries to figure out how much marijuana medicine each patients needs, not legislators in Sacramento or voters in Mendocino County, according to Susan B. Jordan, a local criminal defense attorney and nationally renowned legal expert.

“If it passes, the part of Measure B that asks voters to set a limit on the number of plants for Mendocino County patients or caregivers, is an illegal effort to put medical marijuana in the hands of the “politicians (who are asking for the support of the voters) and not in the hands of judges where it belongs,” Jordan said.
“Unfortunately, Measure B will not be a way out for what we all agree is a big problem,” she said.“And now it turns out it will be thrown out by the Courts if it passes.”

“I Am Spartacus!”

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Ukiah, CA

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#51
Jun 4, 2008
 
Scope wrote:
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See, that's just it...you vote out of spite of not "liking" something...you don't give a **** about the issue, you would rather have total prohibition...but you mark my words, the industrial growers will trench in deeper and fight back harder, and nothing substantial will have been acheived by this measure than to stigmatize those who chose the prospect of low impact Cannabis over drugs and alcohol, which in no way are "low impact" on people, families and communities...See ya in Court
'scuse me there Mr. Scope,

You left something out of your masterpiece rebuttal, please, allow me; "Uh, Waaah!"

There, how's that, do ya feel better now?

_S_

“I Am Spartacus!”

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#52
Jun 4, 2008
 
James M Kinder wrote:
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The whole experience was gratifying. Now, back to work.
Mr. Kinder,

Yup, yup... I hear ya fer sure. But y'now something, I'm gonna miss this here comedy show. This source was quite entertaining at times and the cast of characters... their personalities and diatribe became predictable, and others were unpredictable.

I had a respect for the unpredictable, and a pure disdain for the predictable.

I will continue to scan this forum for topic worth sinking my teeth in, but it may never be quite the circus this Measure B was able to bring out of the woods.

Well I have work to do, and all them dope growers/caregivers/Reality Checkers/Illicit Dope Sellers... they have a job to do as well. They gotta smoke more dope, and sell more dope, and skip the law, and rape and pillage our land and lie and cheat and, and, and...'cause that is just what they do!

But we gone git'cha this here time girl, we gone git'cha!

Oh, wait... do I have a tear of sorrow in my eye? Oh, no it's just a tear of joy. I'm happy not because Measure B is a success, I'm feelin' good because I have a job, and a business and a LIFE!

Aint it great to WIN!

_Spartacus_

“Real Eyes Realise Real Lies”

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Ukiah, CA

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#53
Jun 4, 2008
 
_Spartacus_ wrote:
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Mr. Kinder,
Yup, yup... I hear ya fer sure. But y'now something, I'm gonna miss this here comedy show. This source was quite entertaining at times and the cast of characters... their personalities and diatribe became predictable, and others were unpredictable.
I had a respect for the unpredictable, and a pure disdain for the predictable.
I will continue to scan this forum for topic worth sinking my teeth in, but it may never be quite the circus this Measure B was able to bring out of the woods.
Well I have work to do, and all them dope growers/caregivers/Reality Checkers/Illicit Dope Sellers... they have a job to do as well. They gotta smoke more dope, and sell more dope, and skip the law, and rape and pillage our land and lie and cheat and, and, and...'cause that is just what they do!
But we gone git'cha this here time girl, we gone git'cha!
Oh, wait... do I have a tear of sorrow in my eye? Oh, no it's just a tear of joy. I'm happy not because Measure B is a success, I'm feelin' good because I have a job, and a business and a LIFE!
Aint it great to WIN!
_Spartacus_
well put Sparticus, well put.

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willits

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#54
Jun 4, 2008
 
_Spartacus_ wrote:
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Mr. Kinder,
Yup, yup... I hear ya fer sure. But y'now something, I'm gonna miss this here comedy show. This source was quite entertaining at times and the cast of characters... their personalities and diatribe became predictable, and others were unpredictable.
I had a respect for the unpredictable, and a pure disdain for the predictable.
I will continue to scan this forum for topic worth sinking my teeth in, but it may never be quite the circus this Measure B was able to bring out of the woods.
Well I have work to do, and all them dope growers/caregivers/Reality Checkers/Illicit Dope Sellers... they have a job to do as well. They gotta smoke more dope, and sell more dope, and skip the law, and rape and pillage our land and lie and cheat and, and, and...'cause that is just what they do!
But we gone git'cha this here time girl, we gone git'cha!
Oh, wait... do I have a tear of sorrow in my eye? Oh, no it's just a tear of joy. I'm happy not because Measure B is a success, I'm feelin' good because I have a job, and a business and a LIFE!
Aint it great to WIN!
_Spartacus_
i just spoke to the elections office, and 63% of the ballots have NOT yet been counted. The results could realistically change as they still haven't counted the mail in precints, which tend to be the more rural areas. So, the results from the cities, as I expected, would favor b. But we need to wait untill all the ballots are counted before anyone does any celebrating.
James M Kinder

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#55
Jun 4, 2008
 
_Spartacus_ wrote:
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Mr. Kinder,
Yup, yup... I hear ya fer sure. But y'now something, I'm gonna miss this here comedy show. This source was quite entertaining at times and the cast of characters... their personalities and diatribe became predictable, and others were unpredictable.
I had a respect for the unpredictable, and a pure disdain for the predictable.
I will continue to scan this forum for topic worth sinking my teeth in, but it may never be quite the circus this Measure B was able to bring out of the woods.
Well I have work to do, and all them dope growers/caregivers/Reality Checkers/Illicit Dope Sellers... they have a job to do as well. They gotta smoke more dope, and sell more dope, and skip the law, and rape and pillage our land and lie and cheat and, and, and...'cause that is just what they do!
But we gone git'cha this here time girl, we gone git'cha!
Oh, wait... do I have a tear of sorrow in my eye? Oh, no it's just a tear of joy. I'm happy not because Measure B is a success, I'm feelin' good because I have a job, and a business and a LIFE!
Aint it great to WIN!
_Spartacus_
Yes, it is great to have a life, unlike the stoners. See ya on the 4th, Mendocino!
Sick of measure B S

Ukiah, CA

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#56
Jun 4, 2008
 
i just spoke to the elections office, and 63% of the ballots have NOT yet been counted. The results could realistically change as they still haven't counted the mail in precints, which tend to be the more rural areas. So, the results from the cities, as I expected, would favor b. But we need to wait untill all the ballots are counted before anyone does any celebrating.

I'm CONFUSED ...the election results clearly says 100% of votes are in and election results are final...Please explain your logic to me Reality Checker....
Walter Brennan

Oakland, CA

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#57
Jun 4, 2008
 
_Spartacus_ wrote:
It's Tuesday June 3, 2008 11:50:PM and off in the distance, if'n ya lean yer head to the right... no the far right, and listen... listen what the gentle breeze of ocean air rolling over the coastal mountans... shhhhhhh, listen... is it? Could it be? Yes, I hear the beautiful sound wafting as a butterfly suspended on a cushion of cool midnight fragrance... yes, a fat lady singing... "turn out the lights, the party's over, turn out the... "
Good night emmebody, good night...
_Spartacus_ was right all along, uh that's "Far Right" n'case you was-a wonderin'
Shhh, as lights fade, shhhh now...
_S_
Why Spaatacuss, you's my heero!
Sick of measure B S

Ukiah, CA

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#58
Jun 4, 2008
 
reality checker wrote:
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i just spoke to the elections office, and 63% of the ballots have NOT yet been counted. The results could realistically change as they still haven't counted the mail in precints, which tend to be the more rural areas. So, the results from the cities, as I expected, would favor b. But we need to wait untill all the ballots are counted before anyone does any celebrating.
Please explain this to me who did you call? What is the truth here?

“never stop asking questions”

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willits

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#59
Jun 4, 2008
 
Sick of measure B S wrote:
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Please explain this to me who did you call? What is the truth here?
Sorry for the cut and paste job, but this was easier tahn retyping it.

Correction: Susan Ranochack told me that there was 63% voters left to be counted. That is false. There was only 37% voter TURNOUT. I called back and spoke to Katrina this time (and may I say she is much more helpful and informative thatn Susuan, her boss). Katrina stated that they still need to count all the ballots received and turned in yesterday as well as 1/2 of what they got on monday. If b passed bya difference of 710 votes, how many ballots do you think are still out there waiting? 1,000? 2,000? 5,000?

It will still be interesting to see if the numbers change.

My apologies for the misinformation from Susan. I will remember to ask for Katrina next time.
Sick of measure B S

Ukiah, CA

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#60
Jun 4, 2008
 
Thanks for the clarification...I'll keep my fingers crossed!

“I Am Spartacus!”

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Ukiah, CA

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Jun 5, 2008
 
reality checker wrote:
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i just spoke to the elections office, and 63% of the ballots have NOT yet been counted. The results could realistically change as they still haven't counted the mail in precints, which tend to be the more rural areas. So, the results from the cities, as I expected, would favor b. But we need to wait untill all the ballots are counted before anyone does any celebrating.
Hey there RC, hey y'all doin' sweetie?

I'm so t=u=r=d tired, I could f=a=r=t faint... been a workin' here at my desk since mmm'bout 9:00: AM on Wednesday 6-4. It is now 1:00: AM Thursday 6-5, only watched TV fer mmm'bout two hours, UFC and Ultimate Fighter.

That's what you are RC, you are an Ultimate Fighter in the TOPIX Forum MJ Topic.

You were one of the predictable ones, nothing personal there RC, was just a polarized thing you and I, that's all. We both positives, eek!

Hang in there, I know this meant a lot to you, and perhaps there is still a chance... and then perhaps not.

You are still an Ultimate [debate] Fighter in my book.

I'm out, gotta git up here at 9 and do'er aggin.

_S_

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willits

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#62
Jun 5, 2008
 
Sick of measure B S wrote:
Thanks for the clarification...I'll keep my fingers crossed!
there is actually 11,277 ballots yet to be counted, according to the anouncement of the election office. They will not release any more interim reports until they are completed.

There is only 701 votes separating yes and no, and 11,277 votes left to count could mean for very interesting final returns.
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