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#42
May 6, 2008
 
James M Kinder wrote:
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You tell 'em, Mom!!! Keep your head up, you are an inspiration.
Thank you for the nice comment. I just wish I could do more than just spread the word about YES on B.
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#43
May 6, 2008
 
Watcher wrote:
R Dobbs
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James M Kinder wrote:
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They grew industrial hemp for rope and sails, not high THC grass for smoking. Get sober, then drop a line....
The hemp they grew back then was still used for smoking/medicine. It' the same damn species; it still produces THC
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Your wrong. You must have cut history class to go smoke a joint.
No you're wrong, it is likley he did grow to use as medicine: George Washington was growing hemp at Mount Vernon three years
later--presumably for its fiber, though it has been argued that
Washington was also concerned to increase the medicinal or
intoxicating potency of his marijuana plants.*

The asterisk footnote:
* The argument depends on a curious tradition, which may
or may not be sound, that the quality or quantity of marijuana
resin (hashish) is enhanced if the male and female plants are
separated *before* the females are pollinated. There can be no
doubt that Washington separated the males and the females. Two
entries in his diary supply the evidence:

May 12-13 1765: "Sowed Hemp at Muddy hole by Swamp."
August 7, 1765: "--began to seperate (sic) the Male from
the Female Hemp at Do--rather too late."

George Andrews has argued, in _The Book of Grass: An Anthology of
Indian Hemp_(1967), that Washington's August 7 diary entry
"clearly indiactes that he was cultivating the plant for medicinal
purposes as well for its fiber." [7] He might have
separated the males from the females to get better fiber, Andrew
concedes--but his phrase "rather too late" suggests that he
wanted to complete the separation *before the female plants were
fertilized*--and this was a practice related to drug potency
rather that to fiber culture.
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#44
May 6, 2008
 
More sad truth wrote:
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Don't tell me the hemp of today is the same as the rope making material of the Colonial Era. In the '60s the THC content of pot was 1% to 3%. Now the THC content is often up to 15% to 20%. The 'killer weed' many are using these days is indeed killing the brain function of otherwise healthy people. Youthful brains are even more susceptible to the harmful effects of THC.
Vote Yes on Measure B.
You should check your facts. According to the National Drug Intelligence Center and The University of Mississippi Potency Monitoring Project THC content has increased only marginally over the decades. The average potency of marijuana in 2002 was only 5.11%, with the average potency from 1992 to 2002 being only 4.1%. This is according to statistics taken from samples seized in this country by law enforcement

This whole scare about the modern-super weed with 20-30% THC is a bunch of c-r-a-p.
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#45
May 6, 2008
 
A Mendo voice
Says that because George Washington grew pot it's OK for todays pot growers to poison kids with grugs.

Have another hit.
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#47
May 6, 2008
 
Watcher wrote:
R Dobbs
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James M Kinder wrote:
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They grew industrial hemp for rope and sails, not high THC grass for smoking. Get sober, then drop a line....
The hemp they grew back then was still used for smoking/medicine. It' the same damn species; it still produces THC
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Your wrong. You must have cut history class to go smoke a joint.
Wrong again. If you read your history,(and I have a Masters in American History), you would see that the industrial hemp (low "medicinal" quality cannibas sativa or ruderalis)they grew was high CBD, low THC material used for rope and naval sail material. It was generally 15 feet high with no buds. The male plant was favored,as it grew taller and produced better rope. The cannibas indica you grow is useless for those purposes. It is pure high THC dope. Please do not imply that out forefathers were a buch of freaking hempheads. To do so demeans our heritage.
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#48
May 6, 2008
 
James M Kinder
I'll just bet you have a Masters in American History.

OK Heres a question for ya.
Q How much did President Washington charge the kids of the local school for his pot?
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#49
May 6, 2008
 
James M Kinder wrote:
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Wrong again. If you read your history,(and I have a Masters in American History), you would see that the industrial hemp (low "medicinal" quality cannibas sativa or ruderalis)they grew was high CBD, low THC material used for rope and naval sail material. It was generally 15 feet high with no buds. The male plant was favored,as it grew taller and produced better rope. The cannibas indica you grow is useless for those purposes. It is pure high THC dope. Please do not imply that out forefathers were a buch of freaking hempheads. To do so demeans our heritage.
You might know a bit of history but your botany is a bit lacking. All plants in the Canabacea family (hops and cannabis) flower; all cannabis species produce THC. Also, since most of the cannabis you see today is, from my understanding, a result of underground breeding over the last several decades, they are not cannabis indica either.

In addition, if you are in fact a history major that you should know that a large percentage of the tonics and other forms of accepted medicine at the time contained cannabis. Now where do you think that cannabis came from? It certainly wasn't imported from India; it was grown right here, legally, for it's THC and medicinal properties.
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#50
May 7, 2008
 
Watcher wrote:
A Mendo voice
Says that because George Washington grew pot it's OK for todays pot growers to poison kids with grugs.
Have another hit.
Now I know you are drunk. Measure B is about taking away people's rights, not prosecuting people that sell pot. You can already prosecute people for selling pot, even with Measure G in effect.
I never said it was ok to sell or even give pot to kids you lying punk.
This is what I said:
No you're wrong, it is likley he did grow to use as medicine: George Washington was growing hemp at Mount Vernon three years
later--presumably for its fiber, though it has been argued that
Washington was also concerned to increase the medicinal or
intoxicating potency of his marijuana plants.*

The asterisk footnote:
* The argument depends on a curious tradition, which may
or may not be sound, that the quality or quantity of marijuana
resin (hashish) is enhanced if the male and female plants are
separated *before* the females are pollinated. There can be no
doubt that Washington separated the males and the females. Two
entries in his diary supply the evidence:

May 12-13 1765: "Sowed Hemp at Muddy hole by Swamp."
August 7, 1765: "--began to seperate (sic) the Male from
the Female Hemp at Do--rather too late."

George Andrews has argued, in _The Book of Grass: An Anthology of
Indian Hemp_(1967), that Washington's August 7 diary entry
"clearly indiactes that he was cultivating the plant for medicinal
purposes as well for its fiber." [7] He might have
separated the males from the females to get better fiber, Andrew
concedes--but his phrase "rather too late" suggests that he
wanted to complete the separation *before the female plants were
fertilized*--and this was a practice related to drug potency
rather that to fiber culture.
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#51
May 7, 2008
 
ukiahan wrote
"and 4 more just started. This does nothing to change anything. Another waste of taxpayers dollars. Just regulate and tax the stuff. A 5% tax on mendocinos marijuana would pay for all mendos public employees for 18 years. At the moment teachers are being laid off for lack of funds and we are worried about the largest source of income in the county. Brilliant thinking. Of course mendo local is from san jose, not quite local eh?"
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More than half the money that comes from pot, comes from kids under the age of 18. It makes no sense to use pot profits to help education because way over half of the pot profits come from kids pockets while it's hurting their education. It's the same as saying lets disassemble education to help education. This sounds like typical pot grower thinking. Pot grower thinking is like military intelligence. Only a grower would say "Lets turn the kids minds off and take their lunch money to help education.

The only thing worse than the convoluted logic of the pot growers is convoluted logic that is listened to and believed.

Pot grower thinking!!!!!
"Lets use the money we make from poisoning kids to stop the poisoning of kids."

We need to be smarter than the pot growers for our kid's sake.

Pot grower thinking does one thing. It put money in the pockets of pot growers.

Vote yes on B
Measure B will not restrict those who have a valid need for THC. It will only restrict those who are making huge amounts of cash by poisoning our kids with illegal drugs and hurting their education.
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#52
May 7, 2008
 
R Dobbs wrote:
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You might know a bit of history but your botany is a bit lacking. All plants in the Canabacea family (hops and cannabis) flower; all cannabis species produce THC. Also, since most of the cannabis you see today is, from my understanding, a result of underground breeding over the last several decades, they are not cannabis indica either.
In addition, if you are in fact a history major that you should know that a large percentage of the tonics and other forms of accepted medicine at the time contained cannabis. Now where do you think that cannabis came from? It certainly wasn't imported from India; it was grown right here, legally, for it's THC and medicinal properties.
Indeed, there were tonics in the early 1900's, not back in 1776. As for industrial help containing THC, you could smoke a bale and not get high. High CBD, low THC plants simply will not create a buzz, they create a headache. Point being, our forefathers were no a bunch of stoners. If they were, we would still be awaiting a first draft of the Declaration of Independence, while they drooled on each other.
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#53
May 7, 2008
 
Measure G does state that sales of marijuana are illegal. If we arrested all those who are selling pot we could clean the pot out of our schools and reduce our pot problem by over 98%.

Sounds good to me.

Maybe all the pro pot people on these pages could share a jail cell.
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#55
May 8, 2008
 
Glad you went to Georgia there Mr. Weeddotcom, I guess there are other California laws you didn't like. Good thing sisters and moms are legal dating material in GA. You should do O.K.!

People who snitch on growers are people who care about our Kids!
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#56
May 8, 2008
 
you dumb **** just because these people had kids doesnt mean they sold to kids, most of these large operation have a buyer and i doubt there is any kid anywhere trying to buy pounds of weed. I like the way everyone can get involved and turn this into other things,

first these people were white,
second the gun was not in view or reach of any child.
third, "mom" just cause you have back surgeries or cancer and dont smoke pot, doesnt make you any better.
Those pills you pop are being taken by kids. Its probably YOUR kid that steals YOUR pills and sells them to other kids in school. So dont cry about pot when more "kids" overdose on those chemicals you have in your medicine cabinet. Better yet lets feed our kids sugar all day and then call them ADD and drug them legally.

Maybe we should make all drugs and prescriptions illegal. Turn you "ordinary citizens"(pill junkies) in criminals like the pot growers.
But wait the RX companies are the main one keeping pot illegal. Oh yeah and the RX companies spend the most on lobbyist.

More people are killed by doctors in the us than handguns..

I also have had a back surgeries, I still have 3 compressed discs, one bulging, and one cracked vertebrae. I know what the doctor give for back pain. I can take one bottle from the pharmacy and kill a horse with it. But that same horse could eat a whole field of pot and be fine, maybe a bit hungrier. The problem here is pot is illegal because im from the southeast. But it is perfectly okay for me to go to the pharmacy every month since my wreck in 2003 and get 300 lorecet plus, 100 ativans, 300 somas, 30 ambein, and 500 ultram. And trust me the kids like that stuff more.

mendoweed dot com

MendoWeed is looking for writers. Anyone interested in writing articles about the proper technics of growing marijuana is welcome to submit articles. Only relevant articles will be posted.
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#57
May 8, 2008
 
mendoweeddotcom wrote

Only people with low self esteem or napoleon syndrome tell on people.
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What word describes people who lie cheat and poison kids with illegal drugs?

Oh yah that's right, "Criminals"
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#58
May 8, 2008
 
mendoweeddotcom

Your wrong about pot growers caring about kids. For over twenty years I've seen huge pot deals go on right in front of kids and thousands of pounds sold directly to kids.

I've even heard many growers say they love selling to kids because the kids can't tell good pot from bad and the kids pay top dollar.

Pot growers don't care about the laws, truth, the health or educations of kids. The only thing they care about is the money they get mostly from selling pot to kids.

Pot growers have a typical "Victim Mentality". The figure that because something bad happened to them, It's OK fro them to break any law or hurt anyone (even kids) for a buck.
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#59
May 9, 2008
 
REEFER MADNESS: "Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

Harry J. Anslinger: America's 1st Drug Czar (FDR - JFK)
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May 9, 2008
 
LIVE AND LET LIVE

You should come and see what the growers in Mendocino are doing to the ecology, economy, the health and education of kids and themselves, then you would see that "reefer madness" is ringing true.
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May 9, 2008
 
Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 9, 7:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.

A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed — 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."

Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.

For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.

The report also cited research that showed that teens who smoke marijuana when feeling depressed were more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become addicted to pot — 8 percent compared with 3 percent.

Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana.

"I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid."

The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression.

"It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong."
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May 9, 2008
 
Watcher wrote:
LIVE AND LET LIVE
You should come and see what the growers in Mendocino are doing to the ecology, economy, the health and education of kids and themselves, then you would see that "reefer madness" is ringing true.
why do you keep telling marijuana myths watcher? is honesty too much to bear?
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May 9, 2008
 
Watcher wrote:
mendoweeddotcom wrote
Only people with low self esteem or napoleon syndrome tell on people.
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What word describes people who lie cheat and poison kids with illegal drugs?
Oh yah that's right, "Criminals"
more kids die from the pills in your house than all the weed in the world.
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