Katlyn Longs murderer paying off topix??? WHY are her threads dissappearing???

S and V from Covelo wrote:

Hi everyone, I just wanted to tell you my husband and I had to go to Fort Brag today on business and I proudly wore my ribbon waiting for anyone to ask about it. We only had a few transactions in fb so no one said anything, but when we got back to willits anne from ann's chinese resturant asked and I told the story (the little that I know) as if Katlyn was my very own family, when I got home my daughter asked about the ribbon and I
reminded her of the story (because ofcourse I had already told her about what happened) and she looked at me very puzzled and said why does this matter so much to you. I said I couldn't really explain it. I love my family very much I would die for them. I feel if Katlyn doesn'tttttttttt get JUSTICE IT COULD BE ANYONE NEXT!

You are so right S and V. I can't believe this happened to Katie and to us. Thank-you so much for telling her story. Ty, ty, ty! Someone asked me how my brother was holding up and I just couldn't talk. This evil deed just spread contaminating lives in it's wake. Not to have any justice yet keeps the wounds raw and open. We can't even say what we know he did yet and believe me , normal people don't do the things he did. Best thing for him would be to come clean but that will never happen. We have to make sure he never does this to anyone ever again.

Justice for Katlyn!!!!!!

s and v you won two prizes at the raffle. got to go back over the threads and get your number - lost the little sheet of paper I put it on.

yes the dirty rotten son of a b____ is still running around - unbelievable.
No one has ever asked about my ribbon either - they did ask about the tshirt - three of us were wearing them in fb on Saturday - and I told them "that's my murdered neice and we are making a statement for justice" and they were stunned into silence. No one knows what to say - there is nothing to say except - i'm so sorry. C'mon justice - I feel you right around the corner -
JUSTICE FOR KATLYN!!!!

Nobody ever asks me what my ribbon is for either. I'm having mixed emotions about this town. The benefit dinner was great but other than that people don't show their support. Wouldn't you want a murderer off the streets. We need people, other than me, calling the sherriff's everyday and pushing them to solve this case. They are too busy with pot bust that they keep postponing work that should have been done a week ago. It is very frustrating and I am going to go to a higher source if they do not get their butts in gear. I had faith in them but the more I talk to them the more disappointed I become. I am sticking up for the sherriff's constantly so please don't make me look like an idiot. Although I'm afraid that they will.

I think it's time to hire an experienced private investigator. Most of them are retired Dectives from very busy places, such as NYC, so they know about how to handle evidence and not to let a stone go unturned. I believe pushing for Justice (that might not be the right sreen name) was willing to put up a substantial amount of money for this. I do NOT see how having a private investigator could possibly hurt anything. In fact, I believe that it would help a lot. The is a mutual respect among detectives. I have not felt confident in this investigation for several reasons. I won't go into them here, but there is enough for me to have real concerns. So if the immediate family members are ready, let's get some help! I know that it is the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, but phone calls from understanding family members is going to cut it. Action by the family to get results will. At least I hope it will.

Sometimes you need to fight the people in the power seats to get them to do their jobs adequately. Not because they are not capable, but because it is too easy for them to put you off so long, that eventually, evidence is too old to use. Or the person that committed the crime has fled. It's just too damn long now. I have never heard of such stalling in a murder investigation. I thought they wanted to catch the bad guys, but maybe they only want the easy cases. Or maybe they don't want to **** off daddy. I wish I could say that I feel justice right around the corner, but I've never had the experience of true justice. Money has always won out in the courts that I have personal experience with. It's time to spend what we've got to hire a professional investigator. I'm sorry that I'm so negative, but it was earned. I used to have faith and believed that trusting authorities to help in time of need was right. Now I think that it is seen as being weak. We need to be and look strong!! Let's get busy kicking butt.

I'll committ $1,000 towards the investigator, Pushing offered $5,000. What are we waiting for?

JUSTICE FOR KATLYN!!!

I have spent alot of time reading your posts and getting to know your wonderful family and through your actions what an amazing person Katlyn must have been. I posted before that you wanted to make sure that you were careful about mentioning the name of the person accused and too many details, etc for fear of harming the future of the case or putting yourselves at risk for litigation. I just wanted to a)reiterate that you do indeed need to be careful about what you say and b)encourage you not to be to vocal about your discussions regarding a private investigator. I know that it is difficult to not let everyone in on what is going on with specifics and details. Just like I know (and when I say that I know I don't mean it as a platitude I mean that I know) that it is a constant struggle day in and day to not confront that person of interest or his family for their actions. But you musn't. Not only will it hurt Katlyn's current criminal case it could hurt future civil cases as well as open your family up to the possibilities of serious litigation. It is obvious that the "person of interests" family would not be above suing for slander or libel should too many publc attacks come out against their "family member", their current policy of intimidation proves that they will get down and dirty if they feel like they can win. The other cases people have mentioned where the names of the accussed are mentioned and details are present is when there is an actual accussed person. Not a person of interest. Once they charge him feel free to shout his name from the roof tops and tell the world what you know but for now, it's not a good idea.
As for the discussion of a private investigator, it is a good idea. Very proactive. But one that I think that you should refrain from discussing in such a public forum. There are many charlatans out there who would take your money and abuse your trust. If you are truly interested in following this path it is one that you should discuss quietly. Talk to retired police officers or local victims witness groups for suggesstions. Approach the investigator, do not always trust the ones that might approach you first and always always always fully check references!

please_be_careful wrote:

I have spent alot of time reading your posts and getting to know your wonderful family and through your actions what an amazing person Katlyn must have been. I posted before that you wanted to make sure that you were careful about mentioning the name of the person accused and too many details, etc for fear of harming the future of the case or putting yourselves at risk for litigation. I just wanted to a)reiterate that you do indeed need to be careful about what you say and b)encourage you not to be to vocal about your discussions regarding a private investigator. I know that it is difficult to not let everyone in on what is going on with specifics and details. Just like I know (and when I say that I know I don't mean it as a platitude I mean that I know) that it is a constant struggle day in and day to not confront that person of interest or his family for their actions. But you musn't. Not only will it hurt Katlyn's current criminal case it could hurt future civil cases as well as open your family up to the possibilities of serious litigation. It is obvious that the "person of interests" family would not be above suing for slander or libel should too many publc attacks come out against their "family member", their current policy of intimidation proves that they will get down and dirty if they feel like they can win. The other cases people have mentioned where the names of the accussed are mentioned and details are present is when there is an actual accussed person. Not a person of interest. Once they charge him feel free to shout his name from the roof tops and tell the world what you know but for now, it's not a good idea.
As for the discussion of a private investigator, it is a good idea. Very proactive. But one that I think that you should refrain from discussing in such a public forum. There are many charlatans out there who would take your money and abuse your trust. If you are truly interested in following this path it is one that you should discuss quietly. Talk to retired police officers or local victims witness groups for suggesstions. Approach the investigator, do not always trust the ones that might approach you first and always always always fully check references!

Thanks for the reminders, Please. It's very much a struggle.

jaded eye wrote:

Very sad indeed that we have a national day for murder victims. I'll light a candle for Katlyn and so will the rest of my family. We all loved her very much. We carry her memory with us in everything we do.

There is also a national victim of violent crime week in April. That is where I got the idea for the red and black ribbon tattoo.

Home from work and thinking about Katlyn. We having been busy getting ready for the Earthdance Festival and I think Katlyn would have a blast there. But she will be there in my heart.

Count me in!!

Hello all. I had a comment on the web page I wanted to share with you. I will write her hopefully tonight, if not, then tomorrow. Alyson wrote;
"Hi, Katlyn and my mom were friends. I'm so very sorry. I am a graduate student at the University of Colorado and I am studying domestic violence as my emphasis. I thought maybe I could help you understand a little more about her abuser. Another term that you may want to look up concerning the dynamics of a domestic violence offender is "Coercive Control." It's the idea that without ever physically beating their victim, abusers are able to control or have some illusion of control over their target. Because psychological torture and disabling a woman's autonomy are not illegal many women can live in abusive relationships for years with no outward sign that any violence is being done to them and then, one day, they're found dead. If you ever have any questions about DV or want to know where you can find a source of info...just anything I want to help you."
How sweet of her to write and to care. So nice to hear from people that want to help when there are those who seem to think you should move on after only 3+ months. After raising a baby to a child into a woman and just when she is blooming into adulthood, to have her cheated out of so much.......(Yikes, there goes my stomach again. Tends to curl up when I think about this.) Anyway after 22 years and then this? We need justice. Justice For Katlyn!!!!!!!!

katlyns mom wrote:

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THANK YOU for wearing your ribbon. I wear mine all the time and my t-shirt when I'm not working and tons of people say nothing, but thats ok. Some don't want to get involved, some have to work with the family just to stay alive and many already know. The important thing is that when people see her pic or the ribbon or her truck around town, those things make people remember and they go home and lock doors that they have never done before, and they pick up the phone and call their loved ones and they will think of Katlyn and remember the injustice.
So keep wearing those ribbons and if you have a t-shirt wear it. It all helps. if you want a t-shirt contact me 3-5-7-2-4-3-9- JUSTICEFORKATLYN.COM

I want a t-shirt but Im kinda a big girl a oneX would fit, Its ok if you dont have it Vern is a large. I got your number or Ill get a hold of Joanne.
JUSTICE FOR KATLYN!

That last post was form me hahaha thats my alias with some of those crazy people on other topic I guess the cats out now Oh well

katlyns Aunt Joanne wrote:

s and v you won two prizes at the raffle. got to go back over the threads and get your number - lost the little sheet of paper I put it on.
yes the dirty rotten son of a b____ is still running around - unbelievable.
No one has ever asked about my ribbon either - they did ask about the tshirt - three of us were wearing them in fb on Saturday - and I told them "that's my murdered neice and we are making a statement for justice" and they were stunned into silence. No one knows what to say - there is nothing to say except - i'm so sorry. C'mon justice - I feel you right around the corner -
JUSTICE FOR KATLYN!!!!

My number is Three five four one seven three two

Has anyone in the family called the DAs office? Writch was right on with that suggestion. I'd be curious to know what the response was. Also, I am more than willing to make calls, write letters, sign a petition. Provide direction and I will help, and I do know some other outspoken women who can sign their names as well. It is difficult to know what to tell people when they see my ribbon and ask what is happening with the case since I do not know. But, the key point is that they are aware and concerned. I do feel as though people may not ask about the ribbons because they feel awkward about upsetting you. I know that when a relative of mine was near death, people avoided bringing it up to me but would ask my friends (the friends would tell me they asked) because they felt like they would make me think about it more and make me start crying or something. They just didn't want to make it worse. It's hard to know what to say, do, or how to help someone. I don't think calling the S.O. would be effective for those of us wanting to help because they cannot tell us anything anyway. But letter writing would be easy if we were directed as to whom to write. Several years ago, I read a book about a young woman who was the victim of domestic violence whose killer was not brought to justice. I was so disgusted by what the family went through that I tracked down and contacted her sister and befriended her. The sister was petitioning the governor for justice, and I was able to get some signatures for her. So, there is one suggestion.

Keep in mind that there are a number of social and sporting events on Friday nights and Saturdays, and Sundays may be the best days. Ask around and check the Chamber of Commerce event calendar for conflicting fundraisers etc. to maximize attendance. A candle light vigil in front of Town Hall or walk for justice through town is a fine idea, but make sure you don't need an event permit or something then let all of us know.

The web site
http://www.justiceforkatlyn.com has an Action Now page with all kinds of contacts, e-mail, and links. Thank-you again BMD. We are working on adding form letter pdf. files too. We need
Justice For Katlyn!!!!!

I will gladly sign a petition and I would also be willing to help gather signatures anything I could to help awareness of domestic violence would make me happy in my heart. Because I been there and done that. Jimmy's Mom

BMD wrote:

Has anyone in the family called the DAs office? Writch was right on with that suggestion. I'd be curious to know what the response was. Also, I am more than willing to make calls, write letters, sign a petition. Provide direction and I will help, and I do know some other outspoken women who can sign their names as well. It is difficult to know what to tell people when they see my ribbon and ask what is happening with the case since I do not know. But, the key point is that they are aware and concerned. I do feel as though people may not ask about the ribbons because they feel awkward about upsetting you. I know that when a relative of mine was near death, people avoided bringing it up to me but would ask my friends (the friends would tell me they asked) because they felt like they would make me think about it more and make me start crying or something. They just didn't want to make it worse. It's hard to know what to say, do, or how to help someone. I don't think calling the S.O. would be effective for those of us wanting to help because they cannot tell us anything anyway. But letter writing would be easy if we were directed as to whom to write. Several years ago, I read a book about a young woman who was the victim of domestic violence whose killer was not brought to justice. I was so disgusted by what the family went through that I tracked down and contacted her sister and befriended her. The sister was petitioning the governor for justice, and I was able to get some signatures for her. So, there is one suggestion.
Keep in mind that there are a number of social and sporting events on Friday nights and Saturdays, and Sundays may be the best days. Ask around and check the Chamber of Commerce event calendar for conflicting fundraisers etc. to maximize attendance. A candle light vigil in front of Town Hall or walk for justice through town is a fine idea, but make sure you don't need an event permit or something then let all of us know.

I have tomorrow off of work, or later today I guess. I will work on writing some letters!!!!

JUSTICE FOR KATLYN!!!!