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Heading off to prison

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yughh

San Diego, CA

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#21
Jul 12, 2008
 
john wrote:
what the hell are you talking about?
You're pretty funny.
Bubba

Oakland, CA

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#22
Jul 13, 2008
 
Before and After wrote:
() before () after.
he'll be just fine.
Bubba

Oakland, CA

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#23
Jul 13, 2008
 
He'll be just fine.
yughh

San Diego, CA

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#24
Jul 13, 2008
 
Bubba wrote:
he'll be just fine.
And Prop 36 is going to be retro. You'll be just fine.
Ernest Jones

Tamaroa, IL

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#25
Jul 13, 2008
 
Andrew,
Why could you not stop doing the things that got you in trouble?
The Fed

San Francisco, CA

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#26
Jul 13, 2008
 
I agree with him on some levels but don't know the nature of his crime. I believe the justice systems is backwards. They make you do the time for the crime and pay these huge fines and when you cant pay one month they violate your probation. Keeping the little man down. Isn't your freedom enough punishment.
bobby boo hoo

Redwood City, CA

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#27
Jul 13, 2008
 
yughh wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, real cool, except you didn't get a second chance, you just got more of your first chance. That "second chance" thing is just so much brain washing from the people who don't want you in society, who want you in jail forever for petty crimes.
Your born with your life, not someone else's. Your life is one entire, life-long first chance. I don't want to know your situation, but my guess is you didn't make the drugs yourself, you didn't bring tons over the border. You didn't create the borders, and you didn't create the border issues. What you're exposed to in our society is not of your doing. You vote for things and vote against others, but you still have to face situations in our country that aren't of your making. And if something backfires on you, chances are it's not of your doing. So it's all your first chance, there's no such thing as a second chance at your life. It's the only life you've got, and it isn't for someone else's manipulation.
So have fun with your first chance again. I'm having fun with mine whether people like it or not.
And you have a lot more first chance waiting for you once you start your pardon process. I'm guessing you have a felony, and now that you're off probation you can wait a while and go for your pardon. You won't get it, but you might get a certificate of rehabilitation, which is like half-a-pardon. There's a lot out there like that (expungements and such), but the second-chancers aren't going to make it easy for you because their life philosophy's wrong. You have to assert your first chance all over them, make them realize that it's your first chance and not their's.
And while you're at it, don't forget to call your representatives and tell them you want Prop 36 retroactive and you're not going to take "no" for an answer. It's your first chance rights.
are you talking to me or Mr. Martinez? you sure sound like an idiot. rambling off with all your nonsense. if your going to try to say something at least make it comprehendible. my point is that i screwed up, and i realized that and got my crap together. i did not whine that the justice system did me wrong. i got help, was seeing a doctor and counselor, did my community service, paid my fines, and stayed out of trouble by not doing anything illegal (which really isn't difficult, as most of you know). now, if your response was aimed towards me, all i have to tell you is that you sound like one bitter, pessimistic person. whiner. and i don't even know what the heck prop 36 is and i really dont care. and actually, now that i am done with probation that is it. i am done. no, i was not convicted of a felony. quit talking out your crack.
have a nice day, everyone!
lawnorder

Ukiah, CA

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#29
Jul 13, 2008
 
yughh wrote:
<quoted text>Notice he said he was being violated for a dirty urinalysis? He's going to prison on a probation violation, not an assault case or anything. And his violation is for drug use, not violence.
He is going to prison for the assault case. By failing to complete probation, he failed to demonstrate that he is not the violent thug that he is. Notice he was charged for a new offense which was dismissed and his probation was violated instead because it is easier to sustain the violation instead of prove the new charge. It is simpler for the system but lets the thug off on the new crime. Kind of like a two for one special. So he is lucky he is not doing time for the original assault plus his new crime. And he should be charged for the assault on the deputy. And he should get double time for being a gang banger and double again for not taking responsibility for his own actions. He is right about one thing, he will be going back again. His attitude guarantees it.
yughh

San Diego, CA

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Jul 13, 2008
 
bobby boo hoo wrote:
are you talking to me or Mr. Martinez? you sure sound like an idiot. rambling off with all your nonsense. if your going to try to say something at least make it comprehendible.
That's about as understandable as anything can get. If you can't figure that out, then get out of crime and drugs.

But Prop 36 being retro would clarify many people's position. You don't get it?

I do.
Misfit In Mendo

Ukiah, CA

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#31
Jul 13, 2008
 
Sorry dude, but it looks like to me you aren't accepting ANY responsibility for anything you've done. You had a dirty **** test and you claim to have been wrongly violated... how? And spitting on a cop... how bright. In some places, that's considered attempted murder should you have Hep or HIV.(MANY people who have never done drugs or had bad sexual behaviour have Hepititis. You may and not know it.) AND a gang member? Oh, lovely. I can only wonder what illegal crap you've done you didn't get caught doing.

I do feel for your family, at least the ones who obey the laws. You are making them pay for your stupidity. Congrats. I'm glad you are not my son.
susan brackett

Oakland, CA

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#32
Jul 13, 2008
 
The Fed wrote:
I agree with him on some levels but don't know the nature of his crime. I believe the justice systems is backwards. They make you do the time for the crime and pay these huge fines and when you cant pay one month they violate your probation. Keeping the little man down. Isn't your freedom enough punishment.
whoe... thats heavy
bobby boo hoo

Redwood City, CA

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Jul 13, 2008
 
yughh wrote:
<quoted text>That's about as understandable as anything can get. If you can't figure that out, then get out of crime and drugs.
But Prop 36 being retro would clarify many people's position. You don't get it?
I do.
Like I said before, don't care about prop 36. And just in case you do did not understand my earlier post, I AM out of crime and drugs. If you are not going to read the whole thing, why respond? If YOU can't understand what I was trying to say, then I really don't know what to tell you. good luck to you.
by the way, Mr. Martinez, i have to say that i think you deserve what you got. go tell your sob story to someone else.
yughh

Los Angeles, CA

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#34
Jul 14, 2008
 
bobby boo hoo wrote:
Like I said before, don't care about prop 36. And just in case you do did not understand my earlier post, I AM out of crime and drugs.
If you are so reformed, why bother with a thread like this? If you've changed your life so much, a subject like the one this thread's about wouldn't interest you at all, you wouldn't even have found it because you'd have different interests.

You obviously still have many problems to deal with. That's a shame. Good luck to you.

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Ukiah, CA

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#35
Jul 14, 2008
 
yughh wrote:
<quoted text>If you are so reformed, why bother with a thread like this? If you've changed your life so much, a subject like the one this thread's about wouldn't interest you at all, you wouldn't even have found it because you'd have different interests.
You obviously still have many problems to deal with. That's a shame. Good luck to you.
Ummmm... huh? So are you insinuating that everyone reading this thread is into crime and drugs??

I have to agree respectfully Mr. Yughh that most of your comments have made little sense.

Mr. Martinez, life is all about choices. You are responsible for your own. Yes there are certainly unfair situations that occur; everybody experiences those, however you chose to compound your situations by your choices and actions, and if you are in fact a supposed gang member, I have no sympathy for you. It is a life style you chose and you have to accept everything that comes with it.

Here is your silver lining…. You're only 18 - you have time to fix yourself but my suggestion is you do it soon. You can start by being accountable and accepting reasonability. Don't violate the law then cry foul if/when something with in the judicial system seems unfair. It really isn't that hard to be 'good' and follow the 'rules'… really.
Blah Blah Blah

Fairfield, CA

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#36
Jul 14, 2008
 
Talk is cheap!
Blah Blah Blah

Fairfield, CA

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#37
Jul 14, 2008
 
and the B.S. is deep
yughh

Los Angeles, CA

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#38
Jul 14, 2008
 
Ukiah Valley Dad wrote:
Ummmm... huh? So are you insinuating that everyone reading this thread is into crime and drugs??
I have to agree respectfully Mr. Yughh that most of your comments have made little sense.
No, but people who respond with posts like the one I commented on seem to, don't they?

My posts make perfect sense. If you can't understand them or what they're about, you shouldn't try to give advice about something that you know nothing about. That's why laws like Prop 36 need to address the entire issue, not just a select few. Vanity laws help no one, they end up being a bane to those who try to remain within its shelter while excluding others.

OK? Understand now?

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#39
Jul 14, 2008
 
yughh wrote:
<quoted text> If you can't understand them or what they're about, you shouldn't try to give advice about something that you know nothing about.
Funny you assume that I know nothing of the 'system'. Your assumption, Mr. Yughh, is pure ignorance. I don't mean that disrespectfully but in the true sense of the word. I know far more about our judicial system and youth in Mr. Martinez's situation than you'll ever realize.

I'll applaud your tenaciousness in getting your message across and I am not saying they are not valid however you tend to ramble into sentences that end up not having much meaning if any. I believe THAT is what others (as well as I) are addressing.

Understand now?

Have a nice day Mr. Yughh
yughh

Los Angeles, CA

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Jul 14, 2008
 
Ukiah Valley Dad wrote:
Funny you assume that I know nothing of the 'system'. Your assumption, Mr. Yughh, is pure ignorance. I don't mean that disrespectfully but in the true sense of the word.
I understood before, and I don't "ramble" at all. Funny how people accuse others of "rambling" when they're being told something that they don't want to listen to.

I assume you don't know anything about the "system" because your speech doesn't take into account anything about the state's present system at all. You mention nothing about the Drug Courts that have taken over drug cases, and do nothing for those who had drug arrests before their formation. You say nothing about how these people are kept from having their cases heard in court. You say nothing about that at all, so I can't accuse you of "rambling." I can accuse you of ignorance, the true ignorance of the pig who doesn't want to hear anything that is not in keeping with his view of the world, but I won't. I won't because I hope that you'll make the effort to find out where our judicial system has been hampered, where it is flawed by the Drug Courts.

You'll do that, right? You'll do it pretty fast, too, won't you?
flabby

Ukiah, CA

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#41
Jul 14, 2008
 
yughh...HAHAHA your ignorance of the pig comment is spot on.
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