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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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Victor_Vicious wrote: <quoted text>
I will try to answer you, you have asked a serious questions and I applaud you for not pointing out the obvious errors (its not one in ten, its just a little more than 1 in 100) in some of the rants.
What makes you think we don't do all of the things you mentioned? What makes you think we aren't Doctors and Lawyers and heads of charity organizations?? What makes you think I didn't go to the baseball games and soccer games etc.? Considering estimates of the number of people, 15 million that smoke Marijuana or a 'regular basis' its obvious we do all of thode thongs isn't it? With one exception, we don't poison anyones kids. I think this should give you enough to think about.
The propaganda tells you we are something else, we are your neighbors and the only reason you don't know it is because we don't want to get arrested, get the point? VV Good to know we may be operated on by a surgeon who is high...or that our kids are taught by a 'stoner.' Just because you're a Dr. or a teacher and just because you take your kids to baseball games doesn't make it alright to break the law. If you think that marijuana should be legal...as I do, then you should fight to legalize it, not hide behind a bogus local ordinance or violate the good will of the people who put Prop 215 in place. I say smoke all the weed you want...just quit lying about who you are. You are my neighbor and you are lying. In fact my dope growing neighbor doesn't work...except at growing, selling & transporting marijuana under cover of Prop 215. You're ability (well lack of) to be honest with yourself much less your community is obvious...or you would not be hiding in fear 'of being arrested.' What kind of life is that?
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LegalizeAdvocate
Avon Lake, OH
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LEGALIZE IT! Hemp to save the planet! food, Fuel, Paper and Plastic! HEMp FOR VICTORY, hemp for Earth! hemp for me, Hemp for you! Criminalization of hemp is ignorant and a crime against humanity!
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get over it
Ukiah, CA
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funny how they aren't worried about all of the pharmaceuticals showing up in drinking water all over the US. The stuff they are finding in all of our drinking water is actually dangerous and we have no say in that. Let's focus on a completely harmless plant that is safe and effective and let the pharmaceutical companies poison us. Totally absurd how backwards some people can be. Far more people should be concerned with what is happening to our drinking water (we give it to babies) and far less concerned about choices adults make for themselves. I won't take any pharmaceutical unless I absolutely need an antibiotic. Now I find out our water is full of them and this isn't a choice. Cannabis is a choice. Choose your battles wisely as ignoring what Big Pharma (the real drug dealers) is doing is far more dangerous.
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Victoria_Kind
Sparks, NV
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You will find all the facts about our corrupted gov. in this website: http://www.worldreports.org/news All governments are in the drug-trade, you bet! Big money. War on drugs: Big money!Afghanistan!!! It was Dupont, Monsanto & oil OPEC who disgraced hemp, so they could keep us enslaved with their filthy products. Hemp could save this planet from imploding.It was given to us from the Aliens.
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Proud in
Ukiah, CA
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LegalizeAdvocate wrote: LEGALIZE IT! Hemp to save the planet! food, Fuel, Paper and Plastic! HEMp FOR VICTORY, hemp for Earth! hemp for me, Hemp for you! Criminalization of hemp is ignorant and a crime against humanity! I buy many products made from hemp, clothing, paper, personal hygiene products...ummmm, have even smoked 'the reefer'(to get high :) but didn't care for the after affects. Most of the people who place themselves on the "YAY hemp" side are not being honest about their motives. I hear no discussion about farming hemp for useful products in Mendocino County. That's right because there isn't half the money in actually busting you **** for a living as there is in making a wad of fast, illegal money by selling 'medicinal' marijuana.(TO GET YOU HIGH.) If the 'YAY hemp!' side were to be honest many of us would join you...we are not the 'reefer madness' you think we are-however we are being honest about our motives and beliefs. Petition legislation for what you believe in, be a decent community member and you'll be amazed the benefits that come your way. Be a criminal and you will eventually end in trouble or the 'baseball bat ends drug fight' headline or worse yet...dead by the hands of your 'own kind.'
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Mike B Mad River Ca
Murphysboro, IL
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I know that somebody's going to interject the"Gateway drug theory" if they havn't already,they always do. So let me tell you my theory of the real truth and that is: The Theory of the Gateway Lie. The first time your children see that the lies you tell about Marijuana, are just that, LIES, then the next time they're exposed to something really bad for them, like meth or you name it, they say "hey they lied to me about pot! so why not? Stop telling lies about Cannabis, it ruins your credibility with your children. Let's put some money into the real problem in everybodies county: METH! Sure most anyone doing meth will be on marijuana too, but that doesn't mean "gateway" If it weren't for the pot to calm them down, they would really come unwound. So in a sense it's helping them medically.
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Joined: Mar 26, 2007
Comments: 2794
Jonesborough, TN
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huh?
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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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Mike B Mad River Ca wrote: I know that somebody's going to interject the"Gateway drug theory" if they havn't already,they always do. So let me tell you my theory of the real truth and that is: The Theory of the Gateway Lie. The first time your children see that the lies you tell about Marijuana, are just that, LIES, then the next time they're exposed to something really bad for them, like meth or you name it, they say "hey they lied to me about pot! so why not? Stop telling lies about Cannabis, it ruins your credibility with your children. Let's put some money into the real problem in everybodies county: METH! Sure most anyone doing meth will be on marijuana too, but that doesn't mean "gateway" If it weren't for the pot to calm them down, they would really come unwound. So in a sense it's helping them medically. RU kidding me?
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guy1234
West Jordan, UT
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Marijuana should be legal in every city in the world. It's harmless, relaxing, and was criminalized based solely on lies. Victor Vicious, it doesnt matter if our government isnt making money, it doesnt matter if anyone is making money on it. This is america, the ONE TIME land of the free. Who are any of you to tell me not to smoke a safer plant than tobacco? If i can go to prison for smoking certain plants and not others,(and apparently 'out of control skiing' in utah), Then something needs to change, this is no longer the land of the free, but the land of people so scared of terror threats that they're willing to give up all of there human and civil rights. Well i for one refuse to trade my freedom for the "PROMISE" of safety. Good Day.
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215 Patient
Redway, CA
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A pot smoker is arrested every 38 seconds in the U.S. 1 in 100 white males is in prison in the U.S. One in 15 black adults is, too, as is one in nine black men between the ages of 20 and 34. How many is too many?
P.S. Vaporize or eat your marijuana, smoking it is so 20th century and there are healthier ways to relieve your pain and/or get high. If we free up marijuana for serious research, we could have marijuana that took care of your pain without making you high at all.
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Ukiah Local
Tamaroa, IL
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It is interesting just how quickly these blogs go off topic. The query is "Should measure G be repealed?"
From "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on minorities". and " Hemp could save this planet from
imploding. It was given to us from the Aliens. " to "BET LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!! NUFF SAID LEGALIZE IT!! MUCH CLOWN LOVE!!" Never really understanding the reasons measure B seeks to repeal measure G.
It is all about seeking consistency in the law. Clearly measure B's detractors have never read measure G. Not only does it pretend to protect recreational users, which it can't, it directs local law enforcement to ignore superior state laws, which they can't.
Measure G tries to direct the Board of Supervisors how to spend their budget, which is illegal to do by ballot initiative according to the California State Constitution, and directs law enforcement where to set their priorities, also illegal to do by ballot initiative according to the California State Constitution.
As Laura Hamburg said in a recent interview in "New Settler" "There is a lack of consistency in the county. And I think a lot of us want it to be more legal, more honest, more transparent, more clear, more consistent."
How can we expect clear and consistent application of conflicting laws?
No matter how you feel about the benefits or hazards of recreational marijuana, measure G is a lie and should be repealed.
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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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Ukiah Local wrote: It is interesting just how quickly these blogs go off topic. The query is "Should measure G be repealed?"
From "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on minorities". and " Hemp could save this planet from
imploding. It was given to us from the Aliens. " to "BET LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!! NUFF SAID LEGALIZE IT!! MUCH CLOWN LOVE!!" Never really understanding the reasons measure B seeks to repeal measure G.
It is all about seeking consistency in the law. Clearly measure B's detractors have never read measure G. Not only does it pretend to protect recreational users, which it can't, it directs local law enforcement to ignore superior state laws, which they can't.
Measure G tries to direct the Board of Supervisors how to spend their budget, which is illegal to do by ballot initiative according to the California State Constitution, and directs law enforcement where to set their priorities, also illegal to do by ballot initiative according to the California State Constitution.
As Laura Hamburg said in a recent interview in "New Settler" "There is a lack of consistency in the county. And I think a lot of us want it to be more legal, more honest, more transparent, more clear, more consistent."
How can we expect clear and consistent application of conflicting laws?
No matter how you feel about the benefits or hazards of recreational marijuana, measure G is a lie and should be repealed. So, true It's all about 'smoke and mirrors' if we're not honest as a community. Even the 'big name' growers are seeing that...
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Jeff Lucas
Hemet, CA
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Measure G is an light and inspiration to the entire Country.
It's the best working model available that other communities can considerer and work with in an effort to find a sober marijuana policy for our State and Nation.
keep representing Truth and Liberty!
God Bless,
Jeff Lucas
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UTS
San Francisco, CA
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The 'superior' law is a mandate of the people. The only higher mandate is the constitution. Look at the vote and ask yourself if this indeed is a mandate of the people, not a law made by who knows who in what such legislative body.
This is the people talking and not being denied. This is about oppression and it's a mandate of the people of this land. You can't buy a vote like you can a struggling newspaper.
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that guy
Arvada, CO
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J.H. is the fuggin man!
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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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Notice that most (if not all) of the marijuana supporters are not from Mendocino County...a bit dependent are we?
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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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get over it wrote: funny how they aren't worried about all of the pharmaceuticals showing up in drinking water all over the US. The stuff they are finding in all of our drinking water is actually dangerous and we have no say in that. Let's focus on a completely harmless plant that is safe and effective and let the pharmaceutical companies poison us. Totally absurd how backwards some people can be. Far more people should be concerned with what is happening to our drinking water (we give it to babies) and far less concerned about choices adults make for themselves. I won't take any pharmaceutical unless I absolutely need an antibiotic. Now I find out our water is full of them and this isn't a choice. Cannabis is a choice. Choose your battles wisely as ignoring what Big Pharma (the real drug dealers) is doing is far more dangerous. Let's stay on track here...but since you asked, yes we can 'worry' about more than one thing at a time.
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ummmm
Ukiah, CA
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FBcoast wrote: measure B stinks, keep things the way they are, get rid of these meth addicts that are hurting our lands, breaking into our homes, ruining our communities, leave pot alone. Marijuana is used to purchase/trade for meth...don't be so foolish to think you can move the focus from the real issue at hand in Mendocino County...the flagrant abuse of Prop 215 and the voters good intentions.
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Josh P
Tempe, AZ
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You seem to forget that not everyone knows how to start a business. Or better yet, most people don't have the capital. It takes quite a chunk of change to start a business these days. What possible reason could there ever be to not legalize cannabis, if only for medical reasons as in this case? Because crime and harder drugs follow? Did you ever think to ask yourself why? Crime and harder drugs follow because cannabis is illegal. The only people that can be seen making any money off it right now are people associated with crime because it's illegal. If you were to remove the legal barrier, the corporations that the US is so famous for would step in a take all the business leaving no room for the weaker competition of the crime scene. Crime and marijuana would be disassociated. Or that perhaps it's dangerous and detrimental to our health? True but anything in the right context is dangerous. There's multiple reported cases of children asphyxiating(drowning) in small cups of water and yet we don't lock up our cupboards or bar our water behind our rigid refrigerator doors. Cannabis is far less dangerous than any form of alcohol or tobacco. Tobacco kills over 435,000 people a year and alcohol's annual mortality rates lay somewhere in the 85,000's. To date, cannabis still has never been the recorded cause of any death in American history. Which of those sound more dangerous to you? And children are no excuse to outlaw cannabis, that stems from poor parenting. Cannabis should be discussed in the home by the parents, not on billboards and nation ad campaigns. It's the parents' responsibility to inform their children about cannabis and make sure to instill a deep understanding in the concept of moderation. I have a multitude of more reasons as to why marijuana should be legalized (and in this particular situation, NOT voted out) but those alone should be sufficient. This isn't a question of morality anymore, nor should it have been in the first place. This is now a question of logic. Which makes more sense? A new and incredible source of revenue for our nation or hundreds of billions more down the tube to fight a war on that which is imperceivable. Cannabis is a great vehicle to relaxation and pain relief for those suffering from many aliments, both medical and routine. Don't take away their relief. -J LIES in wrote: You know if you ALL are going to argue 'economy' as the reason to 'keep the herb' alive and 'growing' in Mendo then I'm going to ask you...
Why don't you grow vegetables? Feed your community with local grown, organic, fresh vegetables.
Why don't you start a small 'Mom-n-Pop' service business?
Why don't you do some volunteer work for the community?
Why don't you become a teacher?"
You know, bring something good and wholesome to your community...not something that alters our children's minds and something that brings other drugs and crimes to our community.
You people have already abandoned the 'I'm only growing medicine man' argument so early...
Chickens & liars!
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LIES in
Ukiah, CA
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Josh P wrote: You seem to forget that not everyone knows how to start a business. Or better yet, most people don't have the capital. It takes quite a chunk of change to start a business these days.
What possible reason could there ever be to not legalize cannabis, if only for medical reasons as in this case?
Because crime and harder drugs follow? Did you ever think to ask yourself why? Crime and harder drugs follow because cannabis is illegal. The only people that can be seen making any money off it right now are people associated with crime because it's illegal. If you were to remove the legal barrier, the corporations that the US is so famous for would step in a take all the business leaving no room for the weaker competition of the crime scene. Crime and marijuana would be disassociated.
Or that perhaps it's dangerous and detrimental to our health? True but anything in the right context is dangerous. There's multiple reported cases of children asphyxiating(drowning) in small cups of water and yet we don't lock up our cupboards or bar our water behind our rigid refrigerator doors. Cannabis is far less dangerous than any form of alcohol or tobacco. Tobacco kills over 435,000 people a year and alcohol's annual mortality rates lay somewhere in the 85,000's. To date, cannabis still has never been the recorded cause of any death in American history. Which of those sound more dangerous to you?
And children are no excuse to outlaw cannabis, that stems from poor parenting. Cannabis should be discussed in the home by the parents, not on billboards and nation ad campaigns. It's the parents' responsibility to inform their children about cannabis and make sure to instill a deep understanding in the concept of moderation.
I have a multitude of more reasons as to why marijuana should be legalized (and in this particular situation, NOT voted out) but those alone should be sufficient. This isn't a question of morality anymore, nor should it have been in the first place. This is now a question of logic. Which makes more sense? A new and incredible source of revenue for our nation or hundreds of billions more down the tube to fight a war on that which is imperceivable.
Cannabis is a great vehicle to relaxation and pain relief for those suffering from many aliments, both medical and routine. Don't take away their relief.
-J
<quoted text> Like ummmm said "notice all the support for marijuana is not from Mendocino County?" Not to mention, I am not arguing legalization - I'm pointing out the obvious. This is not about 'compassion' it's about money. Ignorance of 'how to' is no excuse to turn to criminal activity. Take out a loan to start your business, work hard, build it up from nothing...take over a family business,(aside from tending the 'medicine' garden), get a job in the community. There are many ways to be successful that do not entail breaking the law and if you don't like the law, work to change it, don't just break it.
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