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Deputy files suit over Covelo workplace

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#188
May 5, 2008
 
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln,
December 1840
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#190
May 5, 2008
 
WATCH WATCHER seems to know allot about lying. Probably from experience.

Now WATCH WATCHER is saying that those who are concerned about our children's health, safety and educations are all liars.

WATCH WATCHER wants the non pot growers of Mendocino County to just except the fact that these drug dealers aren't going away and that selling pot to kids is a legal way to make money.

WATCH WATCHER says I'm lying when I say,

1 There's pot in this nations schools.
2 Drug dealers have placed our kids in harms way.
3 That smoking pot is as lethal as smoking tobacco.
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#191
May 5, 2008
 
Big grows go beyond the bounds of reason in that they attempt to allow a man's appetite by ignoring legislation, and make profits out of those things that are crimes. A big grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
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#192
May 5, 2008
 
Hey Hawaii Guy, why not take your nonsense back to the pot head blogs? Why? Because, the good people don't want you there either. But if you decide to hang around here, here are a few more Abraham Lincoln quotes for you:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

He can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of any man I ever met.

I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts.

It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.
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#193
May 5, 2008
 
And no, growing and selling marijuana is not a vise, it's a crime, and a yes or a no on measure B won't change that.

I have vises, far more than I should, but they don't make me a criminal. Unlike you, I also understand that they are bad for me. I try to change myself, not the law. If you are still a pot head after measure B, you are still a loser.
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#194
May 5, 2008
 
well enough is enough.I was a friend to all of the Deputies and yes they all had a few problems. they were all real good men. The problem was and is supervision. when a person has the power, it corrupts, so supervisors need to steop in and supervise. Neither the Sheriff when he was a Lieutenant or in his present job has done a good job of supervising, just look at the mess. Sgt Barney has not supervised because all of this was known. There are problems, when the private investigator came to talk to me about this investigation, he was all about the bad things I did and did not want to listen to the answers I was giving him, he was paid for by the county.
as for the other things, it all boils down to lack of supervision, plain and true. I know it was brought up about Shannonb, because I told and tried to work with Allman on making things better in Covelo, he wouldnt listen.
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#195
May 5, 2008
 
2Sense wrote:
Hey Hawaii Guy, why not take your nonsense back to the pot head blogs? Why? Because, the good people don't want you there either. But if you decide to hang around here, here are a few more Abraham Lincoln quotes for you:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
He can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of any man I ever met.
I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts.
It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.
Amen, brotha.... YES ON "B."
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#196
May 5, 2008
 
As 2Sense stated, the realities of the illegal world of pot go far beyond what allot of these growers care to admit to.

The growers seem to think that all would be fine if every one stopped being concerned for the kids and education and if all the greed and weirdness just disappeared.

This is a fantasy world that allows getting stoned and rich to continue but doesn't help the kids or do away with the criminal influence at all.

The world the pot growers are describing is like one of those paintings where it shows a lion, a sheep, a tiger, a deer and two people reclined under a tree.

This world doesn't exist, it never did. Greed and irresponsibility always has hurt someone. As long as it's not the pot growers, they don't seem to care.
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May 6, 2008
 
a friend wrote:
well enough is enough.I was a friend to all of the Deputies and yes they all had a few problems. they were all real good men. The problem was and is supervision. when a person has the power, it corrupts, so supervisors need to steop in and supervise. Neither the Sheriff when he was a Lieutenant or in his present job has done a good job of supervising, just look at the mess. Sgt Barney has not supervised because all of this was known. There are problems, when the private investigator came to talk to me about this investigation, he was all about the bad things I did and did not want to listen to the answers I was giving him, he was paid for by the county.
as for the other things, it all boils down to lack of supervision, plain and true. I know it was brought up about Shannonb, because I told and tried to work with Allman on making things better in Covelo, he wouldnt listen.
Thank you "a_friend". I think he listens, but as long as it's behind closed doors he just doesn't care. The same attitude he demonstrated as Lt. which lead to, and increased the problems in Covelo, now has a direct impact on the entire county. Tom is all about Tom and his public image. He is currently mad because the problems are becoming known along with his duplicity in the matters, and YES, his inability to supervise.

His answer is to put his buddies in power, and tell everyone else to just shut up or they are out of a job.

The problems will never go away, and new problems will always present themselves, but we need a Sheriff who first doesn't cause the problems, and second is man/woman enough to step up to deal with them. Not just throw tantrums, and be all consumed with damage control.

Tom should stop worrying about re-election. I don't think he is going to get another turn at the trough. And I will say before someone asks again, JUST VOTE NO on TOM, my preference for Sheriff is anyone else. There are plenty of good guys still around in the Sheriff's Office to pick from, they are just over-shadowed right now by the corruption at the top.

Still waiting to hear from all of those insider Allman supporters.
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#198
May 6, 2008
 
a friend

"well enough is enough.I was a friend to all of the Deputies and yes they all had a few problems. they were all real good men."
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This question may seem naive but it's from the heart.

Why is it that none of these "good men" came forward with any letters, statements or articles revealing the problem. This problem got bad enough for two suicides and still none of these "good men" have stepped up.
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#199
May 6, 2008
 
YES ON B wrote

Big grows go beyond the bounds of reason in that they attempt to allow a man's appetite by ignoring legislation, and make profits out of those things that are crimes. A big grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
YES ON B
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I'm on your side, But!
This county also has tens of thousands of smaller grow sites (several hundred plants) that also sell their pot to any buyer no matter how young.

Growing pot for sale is illegal!

There is no legitimate side to the pot business!

Any size commercial grow strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.

Big or small, poisoning kids with illegal drugs is wrong.
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#200
May 6, 2008
 
Watcher, that is the point of the whole law suit and the investigation spoken of. Jason cox did come forward and report it. And since he reported it, he was penalized in many ways including Tom Allman promoting everyone on the Sergeant list except Jason Cox who was rated number 1. Tom Allman and Shannon Barney have done and continue to do anything they can to cause problems with Jason due to him standing up against both for a problem that had existed way before he came to work for the Sheriff Department.

Even better, Tom Allman and Shannon Barney's criminal ways are being brought up in court in official inquiries that may soon see the light of public information and enter the court of public opinion if not a criminal court. It is only a matter of time before the public gets to see what has happened any fortunately for us, it will be before Tom has a chance or re-election.

A note to the marijuana growers. Tom may be the guy you want in office due to his support of you and some of your support of him. But keep this in mind. What is better, a Sheriff who you can buy who you are wondering about his selective enforcement or a Sheriff who states where he stands and you can gauge your activity always knowing whether you are in the right or wrong. I personally always want to know where Law Enforcement stands. I want to know that the speed is 65 for me and everyone else not 85 for some and 45 for me. But that is just my thinking.
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#201
May 6, 2008
 
reality checker wrote
Where are the national "breaking news stories" about schools being over run with pot? where do you get your information, please let us know.
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Watch CBS tonight at 11.00 pm western

I challenge you to find one high school where you can't buy pot. ONE!

I challenge you to find one junior high school where you can't buy pot. ONE!
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#202
May 6, 2008
 
watcher
-lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies

BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE

"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only ending up with a certain amount of pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about not selling any pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about being legitimate.
You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are. "

This watcher GUY aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka

"Sorry if I HAVE a problem with a dirtbag laying on his rear end, growing his way to $200,000 in tax free money, while the rest of America works hard and pays their taxes. Meanwhile, said dirtbag is capitalizing on the exploitation of our youth, while posing as a public servant. Don't give me any crappola that growers pay taxes on their grass profits, they DON'T. Yet they cheerfully use our roads, phones and public services, all paid for by honest citizens. Please do not tell me that they are morally equal to hardworking, honest citizens. They are SLIME, HUMAN WASTE, that are in violation of a host of laws including the Money Laundering Act of 1966."
". As for marijuana not being "addictive," tell it to the thousands of screwed up kids seeking help."

MEASURE B

LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!

"WATCHER" PAID PR MAN FROM YES ON B NAZI COALITION!

“Whatever Floats your Boat”

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#203
May 6, 2008
 
QUIT ARGUING ABOUT THIS MEASURE B **** AND FOCUS ON THE WIFE SWAPPING IN THE COVELO WORKPLACE.

THE VOTING IS RIGGED ANYWAYS YOUR OPINION DOESNT COUNT WHEN THE BLASTED OFFICIALS ARE CORRUPT GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS.

THIS MEASURE B **** IS OUT JUST TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION FROM THIS WIFE SWAPPING AND GAY RAPINGS HAPPENING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

"There are 5000 in this town... AND THERE ARE OVER 20,000 in them hills, GO GET 'EM BOYS!"
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May 6, 2008
 
WATCH WATCHER wrote:
watcher
-lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies
BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE
"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only ending up with a certain amount of pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about not selling any pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about being legitimate.
You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are. "
This watcher GUY aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka
"Sorry if I HAVE a problem with a dirtbag laying on his rear end, growing his way to $200,000 in tax free money, while the rest of America works hard and pays their taxes. Meanwhile, said dirtbag is capitalizing on the exploitation of our youth, while posing as a public servant. Don't give me any crappola that growers pay taxes on their grass profits, they DON'T. Yet they cheerfully use our roads, phones and public services, all paid for by honest citizens. Please do not tell me that they are morally equal to hardworking, honest citizens. They are SLIME, HUMAN WASTE, that are in violation of a host of laws including the Money Laundering Act of 1966."
". As for marijuana not being "addictive," tell it to the thousands of screwed up kids seeking help."
MEASURE B
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
"WATCHER" PAID PR MAN FROM YES ON B NAZI COALITION!
I can't wait until I am President, then I can hang you by your male anatomy and spank tour ****.
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#209
May 6, 2008
 
inside info wrote

"Watcher, that is the point of the whole law suit and the investigation spoken of. Jason Cox did come forward and report it."
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I understand that he recently came forward. I guess the question I meant was why it took over twenty five years and two suicides for one officer to come forward?

It took alot of courage for Officer Cox to do what he did.
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May 7, 2008
 
watcher
-lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies

BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James *Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE YES, THERE COULD BE A MULTIPLE PERSONALITY COMPLEX, BUT , HONESTLY, I KNOW OF NO STONERS EVEN THIS IGNORANT!

"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only ending up with a certain amount of pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about not selling any pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about being legitimate.
You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are. "

This watcher GUY aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka

"Sorry if I HAVE a problem with a dirtbag laying on his rear end, growing his way to $200,000 in tax free money, while the rest of America works hard and pays their taxes. Meanwhile, said dirtbag is capitalizing on the exploitation of our youth, while posing as a public servant. Don't give me any crappola that growers pay taxes on their grass profits, they DON'T. Yet they cheerfully use our roads, phones and public services, all paid for by honest citizens. Please do not tell me that they are morally equal to hardworking, honest citizens. They are SLIME, HUMAN WASTE, that are in violation of a host of laws including the Money Laundering Act of 1966."
". As for marijuana not being "addictive," tell it to the thousands of screwed up kids seeking help."

MEASURE B

LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
HE EVEN THREATENS LAW ENFORCEMENT! WATCH THIS WATCHER GUY, HES DANGEROUS!

"The law abiding people of Mendocino County are tired of being over run by heartless, greedy, child poisoning, lawless low life. Now is the best time to leave. That's because the opportunities to leave are closing around you.

Many of you growers are floating in some fantasy that you have a historical right to break laws and poison children with drugs. Your awakening will be rude.

Many of you cops think you can take money from drug dealers, choose to not do your jobs and get away with it. Your awakening will also be rude."
"WATCHER" PAID PR MAN FROM YES ON B NAZI COALITION!
James M Kinder
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May 7, 2008
 
watch watcher wrote:
watcher
-lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies lies lies and more lies
BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James *Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE YES, THERE COULD BE A MULTIPLE PERSONALITY COMPLEX, BUT , HONESTLY, I KNOW OF NO STONERS EVEN THIS IGNORANT!
"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only ending up with a certain amount of pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about not selling any pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about being legitimate.
You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are. "
This watcher GUY aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka
"Sorry if I HAVE a problem with a dirtbag laying on his rear end, growing his way to $200,000 in tax free money, while the rest of America works hard and pays their taxes. Meanwhile, said dirtbag is capitalizing on the exploitation of our youth, while posing as a public servant. Don't give me any crappola that growers pay taxes on their grass profits, they DON'T. Yet they cheerfully use our roads, phones and public services, all paid for by honest citizens. Please do not tell me that they are morally equal to hardworking, honest citizens. They are SLIME, HUMAN WASTE, that are in violation of a host of laws including the Money Laundering Act of 1966."
". As for marijuana not being "addictive," tell it to the thousands of screwed up kids seeking help."
MEASURE B
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
HE EVEN THREATENS LAW ENFORCEMENT! WATCH THIS WATCHER GUY, HES DANGEROUS!
"The law abiding people of Mendocino County are tired of being over run by heartless, greedy, child poisoning, lawless low life. Now is the best time to leave. That's because the opportunities to leave are closing around you.
Many of you growers are floating in some fantasy that you have a historical right to break laws and poison children with drugs. Your awakening will be rude.
Many of you cops think you can take money from drug dealers, choose to not do your jobs and get away with it. Your awakening will also be rude."
"WATCHER" PAID PR MAN FROM YES ON B NAZI COALITION!
I can only wish I was getting paid, like your sorry **** constituency. But then again, I have to look in the mirror every day. How does it feel looking in the mirror and knowing you poison kids for a living? Tell us if you are sooooo proud. Hope the IRS kicks down your door,****.
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May 7, 2008
 
BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James *Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE YES, THERE COULD BE A MULTIPLE PERSONALITY COMPLEX, BUT , HONESTLY, I KNOW OF NO STONERS EVEN THIS IGNORANT!
"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
That's why we need to vote Yes on B/ Because of people that have medical cards and lies about the number of plants they grow and for medical needs or selling....
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